The pandemic has been anything but the great equalizer that some people called it when it started more than a year ago. Here in the US, COVID-19 has sickened and killed a disproportionate number of Black, Native American, and Latinx people. Vaccine rollout is proving to be inequitable, too. Black and Latinx elders in Los Angeles, for example, have been vaccinated at a lower rate than their white and Asian American counterparts.

Distrust in vaccines has been a challenge across the board. But Black Americans were less inclined than other racial and ethnic groups to want to get vaccinated, according to a Pew Research Center survey from December. To fix a system that isnt fully serving Black Americans and other people of color, There really needs to be some healing, says Melva Thompson-Robinson, executive director of the Center for Health Disparities Research at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas.

The Verge spoke with Thompson-Robinson about the roots of that distrust and how to heal.

This interview has been lightly edited for length and clarity.

How does distrust for vaccines in communities of color differ from white celebrities or conspiracy theorists who are anti-vaxxers?

Its not just a simple matter of, Oh, I dont believe that something works because this is what I heard. This is about that deep-rooted, historical trauma that has been carried down through generations. That distrust comes out of the racism that they experience. When youre talking about African Americans, in particular, youre talking about a group of people who are descendants of slaves.

And so its a different kind of thing. Its not I believe that these vaccines arent effective because I heard thats what somebody said. This is Im not trusting because of the experience that my family has had under slavery.

A big thing now is people are looking at whos in charge. Whos running the vaccine trials? Whos participating in the trials? They say, Well, I dont see people who look like me. Or I do see people who look like me. And all of that is huge. We need to see people who look like us who are involved.

What are some of those historical traumas that have led to distrust of vaccines among some people of color?

When you start to talk particularly about slaves, one of the men who is credited as being the founder of gynecology actually did surgery on Black women because they were considered property. He was doing gynecological surgery with no anesthesia because part of the thought was Well, they dont experience pain.

Thats not true. All people experience pain.

You can jump the Tuskegee syphilis study. You could also even look at the story of Henrietta Lacks, who had cervical cancer. And they harvested her cells at Johns Hopkins and still to this day still use her cells for research.

So people are saying, Well, you need to trust the health care system. But health care systems, health care facilities, and health care providers need to act in a trustful manner. You cant just expect people to say, Oh yeah, Ill now trust you after centuries of mistrust.

How do we see inequities playing out today when it comes to vaccine rollout in the US?

The challenge has been with some of the vaccines that you have to have very specialized storage capabilities, which then has limited where some of these can be distributed. Communities of color dont always have access to those storage facilities.

For people working in grocery stores or other retail and food outlets, its not as simple for them to take time off to go to an appointment. If they dont have sick leave or they have a limited amount of leave, they cant go and stand in line for hours at a time.

Another challenge is the messaging thats going out to people. You already know that you have populations that are concerned about getting the vaccine. So the messaging for that population needs to be different.

Theres no one size fits all prescription for how to reach out to different communities of color. But what should solutions or outreach strategies look like?

Here in Clark County where Las Vegas is located, the governor just came out last week with an equity initiative. Because if you look at the data, where the cases are versus where people are who are getting the vaccine its two different places within the same city. Its not the same group of people. Were seeing this inequitable distribution of resources. Were in this perfect storm, and in order to survive it, I think there has to be some relinquishing of power.

There really needs to be some healing and some stepping back. Not rushing, but stepping back and saying: You know what, we hear what youre saying. We understand where weve done wrong, and we want to do better.

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Covid-19 vaccination rates follow the money in states with the biggest wealth gaps, analysis showsStates with large wealth gaps, like Connecticut, are seeing huge disparities in vaccination rates. In Connecticut, theres a 65 percent difference in vaccination rates between the wealthiest and poorest communities. (Olivia Goldhill / STAT)

I do my shift, wash my face, change my clothes and then get on the app.

Emergency room doctor Daniel Fagbuyi tells Bloomberg about his voluntary second shift: countering vaccine misinformation on social media app Clubhouse.

To the more than 108,030,043 people worldwide who have tested positive, may your road to recovery be smooth.

To the families and friends of the 2,377,268 people who have died worldwide 479,458 of those in the US your loved ones are not forgotten.

Stay safe, everyone.

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