New personal conduct policy disregards Fifth Amendment protections

After 49ers defensive lineman Ray McDonald was arrested for domestic assault in August, coach Jim Harbaugh defended the teams decision not to take action by wrapping himself in the nations founding documents.

[T]his is America, youre innocent until youre proven guilty, Harbaugh said at the time. I dont know what more I can say about that and I have great respect for that principle. . . . Its in the Constitution. Its in the Constitution. Its well defined. The Fifth Amendment.

Harbaughs respect for the Fifth Amendment (which may not have been quite as strong if the player in question had been a bottom-of-the-roster slappy) doesnt match the NFLs attitude toward the Fifth Amendment. Under the new personal conduct policy, the player has no right to remain silent.

Because the Fifth Amendments protection against self-incrimination does not apply in a workplace investigation, the league will reserve the right to compel an employee to cooperate in its investigations even when the employee is the target of a pending law enforcement investigation or proceeding, the new policy states. An employees refusal to speak to a league investigator under such circumstances will not preclude an investigation from proceeding or discipline from being imposed.

Similarly, a criminal defendants refusal to speak in a court of law wont preclude a prosecution from proceeding and discipline from being imposed. However, because the NFL wont be honoring the various other Constitutional protections that apply when liberty is on the line (like proof beyond a reasonable doubt), its much easier for an employee who remains silent to end up being deemed guilty in circumstances where breaking the silence may have exonerated him.

If the player speaks, however, anything he tells investigators may be used against him in his criminal case. Under the rules of evidence applicable in every American jurisdiction and all federal courts, anything a criminal defendant says in any setting can be introduced against him at trial.

For the NFL, that could create awkward moments, transforming league investigators into witnesses, with subpoenas issued for testimony and any notes or other record of what the player said. So the NFL probably would prefer that the player refuse to cooperate; if the player talks, the NFL eventually will be cooperating in the criminal case, whether the NFL wants to or not.

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Grand idea behind the grand jury

The jibe about how DAs can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich was uttered by a former chief judge of New York state, Sol Wachtler. Now the progressives want to make ham sandwiches out of the cops in addition to the rest of us.

The rush is on in Albany for a law that would require appointment of a special prosecutor whenever a police officer kills an unarmed civilian. You could have Zeus for your local DA; a special prosecutor would still be required.

This brainstorm is being hawked by the leftist politicians after a grand jurys failure to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo in the death of Eric Garner. A similar law was also proposed in Missouri, after the fatal police shooting in Ferguson.

In Albany the measure is being readied by Assemblymen Karim Camara (D-Brooklyn) and Marcos Crespo (D-Bronx). This is a watershed moment, New York Citys public advocate, Letitia James, told the Associated Press this week.

Its clear that the system is broken, James says. The New York Times has come unglued over the issue, saying there is a crisis of confidence in prosecutors. The gist of the complaint is that grand juries so seldom indict police officers.

But what is a grand jury, anyhow?

My favorite definition is that a grand jury is a right, one designed to protect individuals from mob justice. At least in America and New York state, it is a right that inheres in all persons who are accused of a capital or otherwise infamous crime.

That language is from the Fifth Amendment, which is part of the Bill of Rights. No person, the amendment says, shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury.

Similar phrasing exists in New Yorks Constitution, whose grand-jury protection is among the strongest in the country.

It doesnt say that no person shall answer for an infamous crime unless on indictment by a grand jury except for cops. It says no person period.

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Fifth Amendment Right Against Self-Incrimination – FindLaw

Even if youve never studied law or sat for a bar exam, you likely have heard the phrase pleading the Fifth. Its become part of our national lexicon, so most Americans know they have the right not to answer police questions both while in custody or in court. The right against self-incrimination is spelled out in the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and also extends to state and local jurisdictions. When someone exercises this right, we often say that they plead the Fifth.

The Constitution grants this right quite simply: [No person]shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself However, as with most other constitutional rights, it is subject to interpretation by the courts and often inspires fierce debate.

This article focuses on the self-incrimination clause of the Fifth Amendment in legal proceedings. For details about your right to remain silent while in police custody, check out FindLaws Miranda Rights section. See Double Jeopardy; How Does a Grand Jury Work?; and The Appeal, Writ, and Habeas Corpus Petition Process to learn about other provisions of the Fifth Amendment.

The right against self-incrimination is rooted in the Puritans refusal to cooperate with interrogators in 17th century England. They often were coerced or tortured into confessing their religious affiliation and were considered guilty if they remained silent. English law granted its citizens the right against self-incrimination in the mid-1600s, when a revolution established greater parliamentary power.

Puritans who fled religious persecution brought this idea with them to America, where it would eventually become codified in the Bill of Rights. Today, courts have found the right against self-incrimination to include testimonial or communicative evidence at police interrogations and legal proceedings.

At trial, the Fifth Amendment gives a criminal defendant the right not to testify. This means that the prosecutor, the judge, and even the defendants own lawyer cannot force the defendant to take the witness stand against his or her will. However, a defendant who does choose to testify cannot choose to answer some questions but not others. Once the defendant takes the witness stand, this particular Fifth Amendment right is considered waived throughout the trial.

When a defendant pleads the Fifth, jurors are not permitted to take the refusal to testify into consideration when deciding whether a defendant is guilty. In the 2001 case Ohio v. Reiner, the U.S. Supreme Court held that a witness may have a reasonable fear of prosecution and yet be innocent of any wrongdoing. The [Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination] serves to protect the innocent who otherwise might be ensnared by ambiguous circumstances. This case beefed up an earlier ruling that prosecutors cant ask a jury to draw an inference of guilt from a defendants refusal to testify in his own defense.

Defendants may assert their Fifth Amendment rights during civil trials, too, if testimony would open them up to criminal charges. But they do not enjoy the same protections against jury bias with respect to liability. This means that ajury is free to make inferences when a defendant chooses not to testify in a civil trial for fear of self-incrimination. Civil defendants often claim ignorance (I dont recall) instead of pleading the Fifth in such situations.

At a criminal trial, it is not only the defendant who enjoys the Fifth Amendment right not to testify. Witnesses who are called to the witness stand can refuse to answer certain questions if answering would implicate them in any type of criminal activity (not limited to the case being tried). Witnesses (as well as defendants) in organized crime trials often plead the Fifth, for instance.

But unlike defendants, witnesses who assert this right may do so selectively and do not waive their rights the moment they begin answering questions. Also, unlike defendants, witnesses may be forced by law to testify (typically by subpoena).

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New Kensington shooting victim refuses to testify; charges withdrawn

New Kensington Detective Lt. Jim Klein climbed up and down the emotional spectrum from anger to disgust to frustration Friday.

Frustration finally took hold as Klein sat in his office discussing how, about an hour before, police were forced to withdraw charges against two New Kensington men accused of trying to kill a third city man.

You feel like you've had your heart ripped out, and now you're fearful of what might happen next if this beef hasn't been settled, Klein said.

This is not on us, Klein said firmly. We're doing our job.

He said the charges were dropped because the shooting victim, Jadrian Race Toochy Wade, refused to testify, Klein said. We were even exploring the possibility of giving him immunity.

He said that was because Wade, 21, had indicated he would invoke his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination if he testified.

But we were advised by Mr. Wade's attorney that he wasn't even able to meet with Mr. Wade to discuss what he was seeking immunity for, Klein said.

When we were at the magistrate's a couple of weeks ago, the victim had an attorney, and the attorney advised me the cIient would not testify on Fifth Amendment grounds, said Westmoreland County Assistant District Attorney Larry Koenig. In other words, him testifying might incriminate him on other matters, including the shooting, itself. He did not tell myself or Detective Klein that himself, but his attorney did, and we had to respect that.

Wade's attorney, Fred Rabner of Pittsburgh, did not return a Valley News Dispatch reporter's call seeking comment for this story.

A Woodmont Avenue resident, Wade was shot three times in Proctor Alley around 1:30 a.m. on Aug. 3.

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The Fix: Reports of Chris Christies political demise have been *greatly* exaggerated

When the scandal that became known as "Bridgegate" popped about a year ago, there were plenty of people writing the obituary of or at least suggesting serious harm to Chris Christie's likely 2016 presidential campaign.

Turns out that was premature.

A state legislative investigation led by Democrats now saysthat it foundno evidence that Christie knew about the closures of access lanes from Fort Lee, N.J., to the George Washington Bridge closures that were initiated by top Christie aides in an apparent act of political retribution.

From the Bergen Record:

A report summarizing a yearlong investigation by the legislative panel examining the George Washington Bridge lane closures found no evidence of Governor Christies involvement but concluded that two of his allies acted with perceived impunity when they gridlocked Fort Lees streets apparently for political reasons.

The committees 136-page report, drawing off sworn testimony, private interviews and thousands of subpoenaed documents, also highlights the unsuccessful efforts by a now-shuttered arm of Christies office to court the Fort Lee mayors endorsement, finding that the closures were motivated in part by political considerations.

The report states there is no conclusive evidence as to whether the governor was or was not aware of the lane closures or involved in directing them. But it catalogs several unanswered questions surrounding the scandal and cites a lack of cooperation from several key players who invoked their Fifth Amendment protections against self-incrimination.

Christie isn't completely out of the woods just yet: The panel is reserving the right to press forwardafter its "interim report" (there are some questions being raised about deleted texts between the governor and an aide), and a U.S. attorney is investigating the matter. In addition,the bridge scandal is hardly Christie'sonly 2016 liability, given that his state has repeatedly seen its credit rating downgradedunder him, among other issues.

But the idea that the bridge scandal negatedChristie's chances of becoming president was always too much of a rush to judgment. For now, Christie can say that Democrats came after him and came up with practicallynothing. And in fact, that's a pretty strong argumentin a 2016 GOP primary.

Look, the Christie obituaries made plenty of sense. After all, the pieces all fit logically into the narrative of Christies political career. The governors opponents view him as a bully, and this seemed to be the ultimate bit of political bullying extremely petty and callously impacting the lives of thousands of people who did nothing to deserve what became days of snarled traffic.

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Trial ordered for Lansdale man accused of harrowing domestic assault incident

LANSDALE >> A Lansdale man accused of a harrowing domestic assault last month during which police said he choked his pregnant girlfriend, threatened to kill her, and then tied her up and told her she was going to watch him die as he shot up heroin was ordered Nov. 20 to stand trial on several criminal counts after a dramatic preliminary hearing in which the alleged victim took the witness stand, unsuccessfully tried to plead the Fifth Amendment to keep from testifying, then recanted the statement she gave to detectives on the day of the alleged incident.

Steven DiPanfilo, 33, of the 800 block of Derstine Avenue, faces trial on two counts of misdemeanor simple assault, one count each of misdemeanor terroristic threats, misdemeanor recklessly endangering another person and misdemeanor false imprisonment, and summary counts of harassment and disorderly conduct.

Sitting at the defendants table inside Lansdale District Judge Harold Boreks courtroom next to his attorney, Robert McGuckin, DiPanfilo who is free on $25,000 bond drew Boreks ire early in the proceedings when, after McGuckin objected to a Lansdale police detective taking the stand to read the entire statement given by the victim but was overruled by the judge, DiPanfilo began to loudly object as well.

Youre going to get a $100,000 bail if you continue, Borek snapped as DiPanfilo sank bank into his chair.

The detective then read the statement in full while DiPanfilo and the victim, who had been subpoenaed to appear at the hearing and sat behind the prosecutors table, both stared at the floor.

According to the statement, the woman said that in the early morning hours of Oct. 30, DiPanfilo woke her up and began arguing with her about their relationship the altercation escalated to the point where he told the woman he was going to knock her [expletive] teeth in, then grabbed her, put his hand over her mouth and held her down on the bed.

After telling the woman to be quiet, DiPanfilo took his hand off the womans mouth and put both hands around her throat and started choking her, while getting on top of her and preventing her from moving.

He then grabbed the woman by the hair and yanked her to the edge of the bed, tied her hands together with a black T-shirt and told her she was going to watch him die because I was a liar and a cheater, according to the statement, as he prepared a syringe full of what she believed to be heroin and injected himself, then kept her tied up against the bed for a few hours while he nodded in and out from the effects of the drug,

During the entirety of the incident, according to her statement, the woman repeatedly begged DiPanfilo to let her go and to let her get her twin 11-year-old sons who were asleep in the house out of the residence, but he said to her, Sit the [expletive] down, you are not going anywhere and that he would kill her if she didnt shut up.

She finally got out of the residence with her two boys and officers responded to the home around 7:30 a.m., police said. Continued...

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Irving Peress, dentist who was subject of Sen. Joseph McCarthys hearings, dies at 97

In more than four decades as a New York City dentist, Irving Peress pulled teeth and filled cavities in unremarkable obscurity.

But for a few months 60 years ago, he was the focus of national attention: exhibit A in Sen. Joseph R. McCarthys campaign to warn the nation of the communist threat to the American way of life and the extent to which it had already penetrated the countrys vital institutions.

Dr. Peress, who died Nov.13 at 97, was a primary target in McCarthys drive to ferret out the communist fifth column in the U.S. Army, into which the dentist had been drafted during the Korean War.

He was commissioned an officer in 1952 and signed an oath affirming that he had never been a member of an organization that sought to overthrow the government by unconstitutional means.

But he invoked his Fifth Amendment right to protection against self-incrimination when asked if he had ever been a member of the Communist Party or any affiliated body. This got him put under Army surveillance, but he was promoted nevertheless from captain to major in October 1953.

An anonymous source told the Senates Government Operations Committee about it. McCarthy, a Wisconsin Republican sitting on the committee and serving as chairman of its subcommittee on investigations, decided to hold hearings into communist saturation of the Army.

He wanted to know: How could someone under surveillance for communist connections get a promotion in the Army? This looked like yet another example of coddling communists, the senator said, adding that there was somewhere at the Pentagon a secret master who had somehow engineered Dr. Peresss promotion.

In hotbeds of anti-communism around the nation, the question was asked: Who promoted Dr. Peress?

Several times during his testimony before McCarthys committee, Dr. Peress invoked the Fifth Amendment. McCarthy called him a Fifth Amendment communist. Dr. Peress said anyone attacking him for exercising this right was himself guilty of subversion. He repeated that he never sought the violent overthrow of the U.S. government.

To McCarthy, Dr. Peress remained the key to the deliberate Communist infiltration of our Armed Forces.

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Suit says CA public utilities commission violated 5th Amendment

Last evening (November 13), attorneys Mike Aguirre and Maria Severson filed a suit in federal court saying that the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) and Southern California Edison took 17.4 million ratepayers' property (money) by charging them $3.7 billion for electricity while the San Onofre nuclear plant was shut down, beginning in early 2012.

The theory is that the regulatory body and Edison were taking customers' private property without just compensation. That is banned by the Fifth Amendment.

Also named in the suit are Michael Peevey, president of the commission, and Mike Florio, one of the commissioners.

The only way that the California Public Utilities Commission could force customers to pay for failed generators at San Onofre would have been to show that Edison acted reasonably in obtaining the generators, according to the suit.

However, Edison deployed the steam generators without a safety license amendment from the Nuclear Regulator Commission. The decision came from the top of Edison, says the suit. Edison has admitted there were design errors causing steam generators to fail. A nuclear scientist was hired to do a study, but when he reported there had been errors, the CPUC obstructed his investigation, thus thwarting any determination of whether Edison was responsible for the failure, according to the suit, which notes that Peevey is a former president of Edison.

San Diego Gas & Electric (SDG&E) owns 20 percent of the now-shuttered San Onofre, but is not named in the suit because it had opposed Edison's plans for replacing the old steam generators with four new ones.

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Palmer school officials cited Fifth Amendment in charter revocation hearing – 77 times

Even in a school district with more than its share of charter-school controversies, the answers stood out. Questioned about billing practices, two officials of an embattled Philadelphia charter school cited their Fifth Amendment right to silence - 77 times.

At hearings on whether to revoke the Walter D. Palmer school's charter, the questions ranged from hard-nosed ("Isn't it true that you lied . . . about accurately submitting invoices?") to humdrum ("Do you have a master's degree?").

Daira Hinson, the Palmer school's director of administration, invoked the Fifth Amendment 22 times in the hearings, which ended last week. Richard Troutman, its controller, did so 55 times.

"It is the first time in anybody's knowledge that a witness has pleaded the Fifth in a charter hearing," said district spokesman Fernando Gallard. "It's very surprising that two high-level administrators decided to plead the Fifth when we are asking questions on issues of overpayment. We're talking about $1.5 million over one single fiscal year."

The Inquirer obtained a transcript of the hearings via a Right To Know Law request.

While last month's abrupt closing of the Palmer charter's high school in Frankford caused turmoil for students and staff, the transcript sheds new light on the scope of the school's problems - which also include an ongoing federal investigation. An agent from the U.S. Department of Education's inspector general's office sat in on portions of the hearings.

Another witness in the hearings was school founder Walter D. Palmer, who stressed that citing their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination did not make school officials "guilty of anything."

On Monday he also defended his school in an Inquirer interview, saying, "They could bring a U-Haul in, and they are not going to find any culpability."

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Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:56 am | Updated: 12:06 pm, Wed Nov 12, 2014.

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) Officials from an embattled Philadelphia charter school invoked their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination 77 times at hearings on the future of its charter.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports Wednesday (http://bit.ly/1xgZtMI ) administrators from the Walter Palmer Leadership Learning Partners Charter School refused to answer questions on topics ranging from qualifications to the accuracy of invoices.

Last week's hearings were part of the Philadelphia school district's fight to revoke Walter Palmer's charter amid academic and financial stability concerns. The school's also the subject of a federal investigation.

A court recently ordered the school to return $1.5 million to the district after finding it enrolled twice the number of students allowed.

Walter Palmer shut down its high school last month in the city's Frankford neighborhood, forcing 280 students to enroll in other institutions.

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PHILADELPHIA Officials from an embattled Philadelphia charter school invoked their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination 77 times at hearings on the future of its charter.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported Wednesday that administrators from the Walter Palmer Leadership Learning Partners Charter School refused to answer questions on topics ranging from qualifications to the accuracy of invoices.

Last week's hearings were part of the Philadelphia school district's fight to revoke Walter Palmer's charter amid academic and financial stability concerns. The school's also the subject of a federal investigation.

A court recently ordered the school to return $1.5 million to the district after finding it enrolled twice the number of students allowed.

Walter Palmer shut down its high school last month in the city's Frankford neighborhood, forcing 280 students to enroll in other institutions.

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13-year-olds murder conviction overturned

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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. A state court has overturned a Portales teens 2011 murder conviction and ordered a new trial, according to court documents.

The New Mexico Court of Appeals ruled in an opinion posted Friday that statements DeAngelo Montoya made to investigators were inadmissible because his age precluded him from waiving his Fifth Amendment rights.

Montoya was convicted of second-degree murder in the July 2010 shooting death of 21-year-old Eastern New Mexico University student Angel Vale.

Montoya was 13 at the time of the shooting. He was remanded to a Children, Youth and Families Department group facility until he is 21, the maximum punishment allowed for a child.

The state ruling overturns a pre-trial ruling by District Court Judge Drew Tatum that allowed Montoyas statements.

District Attorney Andrea Reeb said Monday it is her understanding that the state Attorney Generals Office plans to ask the state Supreme Court to review the lower courts decision.

She said if the trial is returned to her district, her office plans to present additional evidence to allow Montoyas statements, and regardless of that decision, plans to retry Montoya.

In his opinion for the court, Chief Judge Rodrick T. Kennedy wrote:

We conclude that the evidence presented by the State through answers to a significant number of leading questions did not amount to clear and convincing evidence of Childs ability to waive his legal rights.

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Virginia state trial court ruling on the Fifth Amendment …

Last week, there was a lot of press coverage about a Virginia court ruling on how the Fifth Amendment applies to bypassing a smart phone passcode. The ruling hasnt been available before today, but here it is: Commonwealth v. Baust, via Marcia Hofmann. Its a short opinion, just five pages, so its a quick read. Unfortunately, though, the opinion doesnt address the really important issue raised by compelled decryption: Whether the government can force the defendant to enter in the passcode. Its not the courts fault that the opinion didnt reach that, to be clear. The government never asked for an order compelling the defendant to do that, so the court didnt decide it. Heres a quick rundown of the facts, the law, and my reaction.

The defendant has been charged with assaulting a woman. There is reason to believe that the defendant videotaped the assault and that there is a copy of the video on the defendants passcode-protected smart phone. The state wants the defendant to be ordered either to disclose his passcode so the police can enter in the passcode to unlock the phone themselves, or else to give up his fingerprint to unlock the phone directly using the phones fingerprint sensor.

The court reaches a split ruling. First, there is no Fifth Amendment problem with forcing the defendant to provide his fingerprint. Second, the defendant cannot be forced to tell the government his passcode because that would be forcing the defendant to disclose the contents of his own mind. Most importantly, the court rules that the foregone conclusion doctrine doesnt apply because the police dont know the passcode:

Contrary to the Commonwealths assertion, the password is not a foregone conclusion because it is not known outside of Defendants mind. Unlike a document or tangible thing, such as an unencrypted copy of the footage itself, if the password was a foregone conclusion, the Commonwealth would not need to compel Defendant to produce it because they would already know it.

In dicta, the Court adds that the defendant could not be compelled to hand over a decrypted version of the video believed to be on his phone. Thats true because it is not a foregone conclusion that the video exists or is on the phone. The defendant cant be forced to effectively testify as to that by producing a decrypted version of the video.

This is just a state court trial ruling, not an appellate decision. So its interesting more for its reasoning than its precedential value. With that said, here are some thoughts on the reasoning of the case.

First, the courts ruling on divulging a fingerprint is easy. Theres obviously no Fifth Amendment problem with that. On the governments request for the passcode, the opinion is frustrating because the governments request was poorly framed. In this case, the government doesnt need to know the defendants passcode. It only needs to bypass the passcode gate, either through the fingerprint or by having the passcode entered in by the defendant. If the government couldnt get into the phone with the fingerprint, then, the sensible request would be for an order to have the defendant enter in the code rather than an order disclosing it to the government. But the government didnt ask for that: Instead it asked for an order that the defendant tell them his passcode.

Whats the difference? Having the defendant enter in his passcode would minimize the Fifth Amendment implications of the compelled compliance, as it would not involve disclosing the potentially incriminating evidence of the passcode itself. The passcode itself could be independently incriminating, at least in some cases. Imagine a conspiracy case in which members of the conspiracy use a common passcode. Proof that a suspect used that exact passcode on his own phone would be incriminating evidence, as it could help to show membership in the conspiracy.

Because the passcode itself could be incriminating, the smart way to limit the Fifth Amendment problem is for the government to ask for an order compelling the target to enter in the passcode rather than to divulge it to the police. That way, the government gets the unlocked phone but never gets the passcode. If the defendant has to enter in the passcode rather than tell it to the police, the testimonial aspect of complying would only be admitting knowledge of the passcode, which would very likely be a foregone conclusion in a case where the phone is used heavily by that person. But the government didnt ask for that here, so the court didnt consider how the Fifth Amendment would apply in such circumstances.

Notably, the court does address in dicta whether it would be incriminating for the defendant to hand over the unencrypted video believed to be on the phone. But forcing the defendant to hand over the unencrypted video is quite different from having him enter in the passcode to unlock the phone. Being forced to enter in the passcode to unlock the phone amounts to being forced to say, I know the passcode for this phone. On the other hand, as the court recognized, being forced to produce the unencrypted video amounts to being forced to say much more, such as I admit that the video exists; I admit that this is the video; I know where that video is; and I admit that I know what video youre talking about. Being forced to produce the video raises a host of Fifth Amendment issues that merely entering in the passcode does not.

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