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Who Designed the Designer? – Common Sense Atheism

Posted: April 17, 2017 at 12:37 pm

Redated from Jan. 13, 2010.

Today I want to kill one of atheisms sacred cows. I want to kill one of atheisms most popular and resilient retorts.

One of atheisms sacred cows is the Who designed the designer? response.Heres how it works:

THEIST: There is so much complexity in the world, it must have been designed by an Intelligent Designer. The best explanation for our world is an Intelligent Designer.

ATHEIST: But then who designed the Designer?

THEIST: Nobody. (Or perhaps: I dont know.)

ATHEIST: Well then you have explained nothing.

This is a highly popular objection. For example, heres Christopher Hitchens:

the postulate of a designer or creator only raises the unanswerable question of who designed the designer or created the creator. Religion and theology have consistently failed to overcome this objection.

Or, philosopher Rebecca Goldstein:

Who caused God? [Theists offer] a prime example of the Fallacy of Passing the Buck: invoking God to solve some problem, but then leaving unanswered that very same problem when applied to God himself.

So this is fatal to theism, right?

No. Wrong. The atheist has not offered a strong objection.

Let me be clear. I agree that God did it is generally a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad explanation for complexity or, well, pretty much anything. God did it does generally fail as an explanation.

But it does not fail merely because the theist has no explanation for his explanation (God). That is not the problem with offering God did it as an explanation.

The problem with offering God did it as an explanation is that such an explanation has low plausibility, is not testable, has poor consistency with background knowledge, comes from a tradition (supernaturalism) with extreme explanatory failure, lacks simplicity, offers no predictive novelty, and has poor explanatory scope. It fails to provide almost everything philosophers and scientists look for in a successful explanation. That is why God did it is generally a horrible explanation, not because it leaves the explanation itself (God) unexplained.

Let us ask ourselves what would happen if we required that a successful explanation must itself be explained.

This would lead immediately to an infinite regress of explanations. We would need to have an explanation of the explanation, and an explanation of the explanation of the explanation, and an explanation of the explanation of the explanation of the explanation on into infinity. And thus, we would never be able to explain anything.

Moreover, this is not how science works. Examples from physics are the most obvious. In order to explain certain quantum phenomena, scientists have posited the existence of dozens of invisible particles with very particular properties that yield predictable results. These have been some of the most successful explanations in all of scientific history, yielding the most accurate experimental results we have ever achieved. And yet we have no explanations whatsoever for the particles that we have offered as explanations for the quantum phenomena.

The reason that the details of the Standard Model of Particle Physics are accepted as good explanations for quantum phenomena is because these explanations are plausible, they are extremely testable, they have strong consistency with background knowledge, they come from a tradition (natural science) with great explanatory success, they are relatively simple, they offer much predictive novelty, and they have strong explanatory scope. It doesnt matter that we have no explanation whatsoever for the explanations themselves.

One more example. Ludwig Boltzmann explained heat by positing tiny, unobserved particles (which we now call atoms). Boltzmanns theory was superior to earlier phenomenological theories of heat, even though his explanation (a mess of tiny particles) was itself totally unexplained.

So the problem with the atheist sacred cow of Who designed the designer? is that it misses the point. God did it is a horrible explanation, but not because theists cant tell us what the explanation for the designer is. There are other reasons why God did it is generally a horrible explanation, and that is what atheists should be trying to communicate.

Despite repeated attempts to explain all this to my atheist readers, many still insist that successful explanations must themselves be explained. At this point, I dont know what else to do except to quote some scholars in an attempt to bludgeon my fellow atheists into accepting this basic principle in philosophy of science. 🙂

Heres atheist philosopher of science Peter Lipton:

The why-regress is a feature of the logic of explanation that many of us discovered as children, to our parents cost. I vividly recall the moment it dawned on me that, whatever my mothers answer to my latest why-question, I could simply retort by asking Why? of the answer itself, until my mother ran out of answers or patience

[But] explanations need not themselves be understood. A drought may explain a poor crop, even if we dont understand why there was a drought; I understand why you didnt come to the party if you explain you had a bad headache, even if I have no idea why you had a headache; the big bang explains the background radiation, even if the big bang is itself inexplicable, and so on

the [why-regress] argument brings out the important facts that explanations can be chained, and that what explains need not itself be understood

Or consider atheist philosopher of scienceMichael Friedman. Notice that he assumes our explanations may not themselves be explained, but that explanations succeed in increasing our understanding of the world:

[Consider] the old argument that science is incapable of explaining anything because the basic phenomena to which others are reduced are themselves neither explained nor understood. According to this argument, science merely transfers our puzzlement from one phenomenon to another The answer, as I see it, is that.. we dont simply replace one phenomenon with another. We replace one phenomenon with amore comprehensive phenomenon, and thereby genuinely increase our understanding of the world.

And heres atheist philosopher of religion Gregory Dawes:

Richard Dawkins, for instance, writes that to explain the machinery of life by invoking a supernatural Designer is to explain precisely nothing. Why? Because it leaves unexplained the origin of the designer.

[Dawkins' idea is] that religious explanations are unacceptable because they leave unexplained the existence of their explanans (God). Dawkins apparently assumes that every successful explanation should also explain its own explanans. But this is an unreasonable demand. Many of our most successful explanations raise new puzzles and present us with new questions to be answered.

Finally, atheist philosopher of metaphysics John Post:

there cannot be an infinite regress of explanations Again the reasons are not practical, such as the finiteness of our faculties, but logic or conceptual, entailed by the very notions of explanations involved. Even for an infinite intellect, regresses of such explanations must end.

Why do I want to kill this sacred cow of atheism?

First, because I am not loyal to atheism per se, but to truth and reason.

Second, because I want atheists to stop giving arguments and objections that are so easily rebutted.

Third, because I want atheists to focus on objections that really matter. When a believer offers God did it as the best explanation for something, our question should not be Well then who designed the designer? but instead Why is God the best explanation for that? Will you explain, please?

The theist has a good answer to the first question. He wont have a good answer for the second one. Not if youre prepared:

This great book shows why God is a poor explanation for anything.

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NATO’s Real Alliance Dilemma – The National Interest Online (blog)

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NATOs European members, especially the newest members in eastern Europe, incessantly fret about the threat that Vladimir Putins Russia poses to their countries and the continent. Their worries were noticeable even before the eruption of the Ukraine crisis in 2013 and 2014. Moscows 2008 military intervention in Georgia to support South Ossetias secessionists alarmed those countries. So, too, did Russias gradual but significant military restoration and modernization programs.

But it was Putins reaction to the overthrow of the pro-Russian government of Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych in early 2014 that greatly intensified their worries and led to a surge of warnings to NATO partners that the alliance must become more serious about deterring a growing Russian menace. Putins annexation of Crimea and his support for secessionist forces in eastern Ukraine seemed especially ominous. Estonian president Kersti Kaljulaid noted that in 2008, they moved on Georgia . . . I am afraid now that the resolve of the Western countries may not hold in the case of Ukraine. We need to stand very firm against giving again a message to Putin that it will blow over.

German chancellor Angela Merkel cited the impact of Moscows actions in Ukraine, especially on the former Soviet satellite nations. She charged that Moscow had undermined European security in words and deeds by infringing on Ukraines borders and profoundly disturbed NATOs eastern members who therefore require the unambiguous back-up of the alliance. Edgars Rinkvis, Latvias minister of foreign affairs, was even more specific. We have to be prepared that the little green men [disguised Russian military personnel] may try to create confusion, just like they did in Crimea, he said.

Despite the upsurge in dire warnings, most of those same countries have not translated their professed alarm into meaningful efforts to strengthen their own military capacities. Granted, even the largest nations in NATOs eastern European cohort, such as Poland and Romania, could never hope to match Russias military power on their own. But considerations of national self-interest should motivate them to adopt a porcupine strategyhaving a sufficient defense capability that it would make any invasion so costly in blood and treasure that no rational Kremlin leader would consider adopting that course.

Unfortunately, the eastern European nations have done nothing of the sort, even as their warnings become increasingly shrill and their demands that the United States do more to protect them from Russia grow more insistent. The continuing mismatch between rhetoric and action raises obvious questions about how serious those countries are about their own security.

Their leaders exhibit no trace of doubt that Russia is a dangerous, menacing power. In a March 2017 interview, Dalia Grybauskait, president of Lithuania, stated bluntly: Russia is a threat not only to Lithuania but to the whole region and to all of Europe. We see how Russia is behaving in Kaliningrad, a Russian enclave on our border. There they have deployed nuclear-capable missiles that can reach European capitals. It is not just about the Baltic region anymore. Polands foreign minister, Witold Waszczykowski, was equally alarmist, insisting that Russia's behavior posed an existential threat to Poland and the rest of democratic Europe even greater than ISIS.

One would think that if the threat were that serious, NATOs European membersespecially those in the Eastwould be engaged in crash programs to strengthen their militaries. Yet there are few signs of such determination. At the 2006 NATO summit, there was a commitment that every country would spend a minimum of 2 percent of its gross domestic product on defense. At the time of the Ukraine crisis, other than the United States, only Britain and Greece (because of its worries about fellow NATO member Turkey) had met that goal. Since then, Estonia and Poland have done sobarely.

The other eastern European nations lag far behind. The other two Baltic republics, Lithuania and Latvia, spend 1.49 and 1.41 percent, respectively. Romania and Bulgaria devote 1.41 percent and 1.30 percent. Slovakia and Hungary spend a mere 1.12 percent and 1.02 percent, and the Czech Republic brings up the rear at 1.01 percent. NATOs leading countries dont do significantly better. The figures for France and Italy are 1.79 and 1.11 percent, respectively. Perhaps most telling, democratic Europes leading economic power, Germany, spends a pathetic 1.20 percent.

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NATO Funding Frustration Could Cause Friction in Europe – The National Interest Online

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A former candidate for UK Prime Minister suggests that the United Kingdom could use its military to counteract Spanish attempts to influence the status of a British outpost. A major British newspaper adds fuel to that fire by arguing that the Royal British Navy could defeat the Spanish Navy should it come to war. When did this happen? 1805? Perhaps the 1760s?

No, this actually took place in 2017, over accusations that the Spanish were attempting to influence Gibraltars status post-Brexit. This spat serves as a grim reminder for the United Statesit encourages European nations to spend more on defense at its own peril. The history of European military might is not a happy one, and the recent U.S. demand that European nations spend 2 percent of their GDP on defense to meet the NATO target could, in fact, harm U.S. interests.

In short, when faced with the choice of guns or butter, the United States should allow European leaders to choose butter. The United States can bring the guns.

Americans expect a baseline of unity among their Western European allies. They therefore assume that any European military buildup will help achieve U.S. strategic goalsconfronting the Soviet Union and Balkan unrest previously or terrorism and a resurgent Russia today.

Yet diplomatic unity of purpose has always been the antecedent to military unity. Today, however, that diplomatic unity has dissipated. Brexit and the election of Donald Trumpwho has expressed skepticism of NATO and the European Unionhave highlighted the fragility of the European order. As Brexit negotiations continue, tension between European powers will only grow, and it will become increasingly difficult for Europe to maintain a unified diplomatic front.

U.S. policy does not reflect this new disunited reality. Under the current U.S. outlook, the assumption is that Europeans agree on how to wield power while anti-EU and anti-NATO sentiments are secondary factors. This understanding explains the insistence of President Trump as well of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis that NATO members reach the 2 percent threshold.

The U.S. focus on burden sharing raises concerns primarily for two reasons. First, better military capability without proper coordination on its use would either be useless or could hurt European unity. For example, the United States has no stake in whether the United Kingdom can better deter Spain from interference in Gibraltar. If anything, the United States strives to minimize intra-NATO friction. U.S. leaders should only call for increased military expenditures if certain that they would serve U.S. strategic interests like deterring Russian aggression in the Baltic states or in the North Atlantic.

Second, increased burden sharing may actively hurt the cause of EU stability. Military buildup in Europe would sap the political capital and limit the nondefense spending options of establishment pro-American leaders confronting the gravest threat to the EU and U.S. power on the continent, the insurgent populist movement.

Many EU countries are in a cycle of elections that could be decisive for the future of Europe and the West. Dissatisfaction over lackluster economic prospects and opposition to immigration have powered anti-EU and anti-NATO parties like Marine Le Pens National Front and placed electoral victories within their grasp. Brexit proved that EU integration is neither inevitable nor irreversible. Now, populist parties are trying to follow the example and reshape Europe in a more nationalistic vision.

The example of Italy shows the potential dangers of prioritizing military spending. The country currently spends 1.1. percent of its GDP on military capabilities. It also boasts an 11.5 percent unemployment rate, (35.2 percent for youth), 1 percent GDP growth and a caretaker government following Matteo Renzis resignation. Spending toward the NATO target would divert resources and embolden the populist parties opposing the government. This budgetary trade-off suggests the fundamental calculation of burden sharing. Between a reliable partner or a 2 percent contribution, the United States will choose the former. The 1.1 percent of GDP military spending under Italian prime minister Paolo Gentiloni of the Democratic Party will always be preferable to 2 percent under Beppe Grillos Five Star Movement.

Caution in increasing military spending does not mean allowing partners to shirk collective responsibility indefinitely. It does mean abandoning the current approach. Secretary Tillersons ultimatum calling for spending increase plans before the May 25 NATO meeting is particularly counterproductive. If allies do not comply (which is likely given the unclear enforcement mechanisms), the disorganization will hurt U.S. and European credibility. If they do comply, the increased spending will force EU leaders to remove other pressing reforms from the priority list while handing populists additional electoral ammunition.

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Le Pen blasts Trump for reversing stance on NATO – Fox News

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French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen blasted President Trump Friday for changing his mind about NATO after saying during his presidential campaign that the body was obsolete.

Le Pen said in a radio interview with France Info that Trump may have been swayed by his administration to change his mind. Trump made his comments at the White House in a press conference after a meeting with NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg.

Undeniably he is in contradiction with the commitments he had made, Le Pen said. I am coherent, I dont change my mind in a few days. He had said he would not be the policeman of the world, that he would be the president of the United States and would not be the policeman of the world, but it seems today that he has changed his mind.

The far-right French candidate has made terrorism and immigration key parts of her campaign and wants France to quit NATO despite calling for a big coalition of countries which fight Muslim fundamentalism in which there will be of course the U.S., Russia, countries like Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Chad.

Le Pen is believed to be on track to make it to the next round in the France presidential election.

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Air Force Deploys F-35As to England for NATO Training Exercises – ExecutiveGov

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The U.S. Air Force has fielded several Lockheed Martin-built F-35A Lightning IIaircraft in England for the first time to carry out training exercises with NATO member countries, the Defense Department said Saturday.

The F-35A fighter jets from the 419th and 388th fighter wings at Hill Air Force Base in Utah arrived Saturday at England-based Royal Air Force Lakenheath and will stay for several weeks in Europe to train with allied countries as part of the European Reassurance Initiative.

The deployment seeks to help the Air Force demonstrate the fighter jets operational capabilities and streamline the requirements for positioning the aircraft in Europe as the continent prepares to get F-35As by early 2020s, DoD said in a separate news release published Friday.

The service branchs Air Mobility Command supported the F-35A deployment in Europe and several refueling planes from four various military bases offered at least 400,000 pounds of fuel during the tanker bridge operation between the U.S. and Europe.

The military branch used C-5 Galaxy and C-17 Globemaster IIIaircraft to fly staff and maintenance equipment to England.

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Denmark set to BOLSTER up army in ‘Nato commitment’ amid … – Express.co.uk

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Defence minister Claus Hjort Frederiksen revealed the Danish Government wants to conscript more Danes into the army to increase the forces readiness if a conflict should break out.

Earlier this year the cabinet minister announced funds would be allocated to strengthen Denmarks armed forces following Russian aggression.

Speaking to TV2.DK, Mr Frederiksen suggested one of the proposals is to increase the number of men and women conscripted for military service.

I would like to see little more conscription, he said. Its one of the things we are looking at and I think it is a relevant discussion.

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The defence minister also said there are large holes in Natos defence around the Baltic Sea, as he added Russia was the greatest threat facing Denmark.

Mr Frederiksen said: We need to achieve more in the army. It is a question about capacity and endurance if it should come to a conflict.

The warning about Natos defence around the Baltic Sea cameas Donald Trump on Wednesday backtracked on his previous statements about the military alliance.

Speaking during a joint press conference with Nato chief Jens Stoltenberg, he said: I said it was obsolete. Its no longer obsolete.

We need to achieve more in the army

Claus Hjort Frederiksen

The US contributes around 70 per cent of Natos total defence spending and while President Trump conceded that the alliance was still very important to him, the Republican blasted other members that do not contribute enough.

President Trump added: If other countries pay their fair share instead of relying on the United States to make up the difference, we will all be much more secure, and our partnership will be made that much stronger.

The secretary general and I had a productive discussion about what more Nato can do in the fight against terrorism.

I complained about that a long time ago and they made a change, and now they do fight terrorism.

Meanwhile, speaking to Fox News on Thursday, Mr Stoltenberg said the Republican hadthe supportof Nato in the war against terrorism, just hours before the US military blitzed ISIS with the mother of all bombs in Afghanistan.

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Every member country, no matter how large or small, has an equal say in discussions and decisions. Photo shows: Signing the North Atlantic Treaty which marked the beginning of NATO, 1949.

The Nato chief said: Natos core task is to defend Nato allied countries, the 28 European countries, and the United States and Canada.

We are addressing the root causes of the terrorist threats we see against many Nato allied countries. We are in Afghanistan to fight international terrorism.

The main reason for Nato being there for so many years is to prevent Afghanistan from becoming a safe haven for international terrorists once again. We are in Iraq training Iraqi forces, enabling them to stabilise their own country and to fight terrorism, to fight [ISIS] in Iraq.

"Nato is supporting the US-led coalition fighting [ISIS] in Syria with our surveillance planes helping to improve the air picture.

All Nato allies are a part of the coalition, some of them are active on the ground Syria. So Nato and Nato allies participate and contribute in many different ways to the international fight against terrorism.

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Microsoft patched ‘NSA hack’ Windows flaws before leak – BBC News

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NSA Is Hosting a Free Cybersecurity Summer Camp for Teen Girls … – Observer

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A new cybersecurity summer camp is giving middle and high school girls a head start at a career intech.

The program, called GenCyber, will be entirely free thanks to theNational Security Agency (NSA), which is footing the bill fortuition, boarding andregistration fees for all participants. The NSAs goal forthe campis to inspire young people to direct their talents toward cybersecurity careers they believe are critical to national and economic security.

Another goal is to increase diversity in tech. Currently, women earn only 28 percent of computer science degrees, own only fivepercent of startups and hold only 11 percent of executive positions at Silicon Valley companies.

With the shortage of women in technology fields, anything we can do to encourage young women to explore STEM careers can only be good, said Jose-Marie Griffiths, president of Dakota State University, which will beone of the camps two locations.The other host campus isSouth Dakota School of Mines & Technology. Both were launched inSouth Dakota as an effort by the universities, because itsbeen identified as one of the industry sectors with the highest potential inthe state.

Core sessions at the camps will focus on cybersecurity, programming, networking and robotics. Students also have a choice of electives including multimedia forensics, socket programming, password cracking, iRobot create, network forensics, web hacking and 3-D printing.

At the DSU camp, an FBI Computer Analysis Response Team (CART) will present ondigital forensics, and twospeakers from Google will discuss security and privacy.There will also be a cyber sleuth escape room, and Access Data, a leading forensics company, will be hostinghands-on labs with social media and web traffic.

The SD Mines camp features a collaboration with Black Hills Information Security (BHIS), a company focused on customized security solutions for their clients. Officials from BHIS will be involved in enhancing the curriculum alongside professors in Mines Department of Mathematics and Computer Science. There will be some fun opportunities to get off campus as wellfield trips toMt. Rushmore and the South Dakota Air and Space Museum

You can find out more about attending theMines and Dakota States GenCyber here and here.

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NSA surveillance protested with mock prayers, chants | Newsday – Newsday

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Exorcists wearing tinfoil hats and burning sage staged a faux purification ritual in Manhattans TriBeCa neighborhood Saturday outside a building that they said was an outpost used by the U.S. government to surveil everyday Americans phone calls, texts and internet usage.

About 50 chanters and passers-by who joined in wailed mock prayers in the direction of the 550-foot-tall windowless monolith at 33 Thomas St., an AT&T-owned building that reportedly has space for surveillance operations by the National Security Agency.

The Intercept, one of the main online news sites publishing leaks by government whistleblower Edward Snowden, has reported that the granite and concrete building appears to have long served as a surveillance site for the agency. The NSA has not confirmed the claims.

This building has eyes, and it is watching you! performer and activist Joe Therrien, 35, of Bedford Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, shouted from inside a pen that the NYPD set up on Church Street for protesters.

The harvested data is then made accessible, added his girlfriend, Sam Wilson, 37, a puppeteer and bartender, in a Google-like mass-surveillance system that the NSA employees use to search through huge quantities of data!

The couple took turns listing the kinds: internet browsing history, chats, passwords, and phone calls.

The NSA could not be reached for comment Saturday, but agency officials have defended bulk surveillance as the only way to thwart terrorist attacks like 9/11.

An AT&T building security guard, speaking through an intercom, told a reporter seeking comment, today being Saturday, we dont have anyone.

An AT&T spokesman didnt immediately return a message seeking comment Saturday, but told The Intercept in November: NSA representatives do not have access to any secure room or space within our owned portion of the 33 Thomas St. building.

Protest organizer Noah Harley, 33, of Ridgewood, Queens, a translator and musician, said the exorcism was designed to be presented in a playful way, in contrast with other protests.

Kill em with kindness, he said.

The spectacle drew tourists, some of TriBeCas midday brunch crowd and other passers-by, including Virginia Mott of Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, and her sister, Tiffiney Biorn, who was visiting from Minneapolis.

When asked about the exorcism event, the sisters began a discussing the surveillance program.

You dont care if the NSA listens to your phone calls? Mott, 29, asked Biorn, 25.

Biorn answered: If they want but I dont do anything.

Mott said she could see both sides of the debate there could be good, there could be bad.

Regardless, she said, the government should be as transparent as possible about its surveillance practices. I mean, if theyre listening to everybody, they can say that, and then we dont know who theyre listening to.

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Use diplomacy, not proxies: US NSA to Pakistan – Economic Times

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NEW YORK: Pakistan should use diplomacy and not "proxies" that engage in violence to pursue its interests in Afghanistan and elsewhere, US National Security Adviser Lt Gen H R McMaster has said as he criticised the Pakistani leadership for selectively targeting terror groups.

McMaster in an interview to Afghan television channel ToloNews appeared to take a "tougher line" on Pakistan, which has been accused of using the Taliban as a proxy force and giving its leaders sanctuary.

"As all of us have hoped for many, many years -- we have hoped that Pakistani leaders will understand that it is in their interest to go after these groups less selectively than they have in the past," McMaster said during his latest visit to the war-torn country, according to a report in The New York Times.

"The best way to pursue their interests in Afghanistan and elsewhere is through the use of diplomacy, and not through the use of proxies that engage in violence," it quoted him as saying.

The report added that Afghan officials aware of the discussions with McMaster said there was a common understanding of the threat of terrorist groups emerging from Pakistan.

"And there are other indications that the United States may be weighing a tougher stance on Pakistan, among them General McMaster's reported pick of a point person on the country who has strongly advocated that the United States stop treating Pakistan as an ally and condition any future military aid on fighting terrorist groups," the report added.

It said many analysts, as well as some coalition partners, have been critical of the United States' uphill struggle to persuade Pakistan to crack down on the Afghan Taliban leadership, which has used Pakistan as a base for its battles in Afghanistan.

"Many people in Afghanistan are wondering about the nature of relations between the United States and Pakistan, particularly the fact that everyone recognisers the principal role of Pakistan in supporting Taliban and other terrorist groups," said Davood Moradian, the director of the Afghan Institute for Strategic Studies.

Moradian said the new administration realised that the prior "appeasement policy" with Pakistan had not worked and needed to be reconsidered.

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