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Monthly Archives: March 2017
When free speech is hate speech: Should it be banned? – Crosscut – Crosscut
Posted: March 19, 2017 at 4:10 pm
A protester holds a sign that reads "Make Fascists Afraid Again!" during a demonstration in front of Kane Hall on the University of Washington campus where far-right commentator Milo Yiannopoulos was giving a speech, Friday, Jan. 20, 2017, in Seattle. Credit: AP Photo/Ted S. Warren
On a recent Civic Cocktail a monthly interview program on The Seattle Channel journalists had a chance to ask University of Washington President Ana Mari Cauce and Washington State University President Kirk Schulz about free speech on campus and it was a subject both seemed eager to talk about.
On Inauguration night in January the UW hosted a controversial right-wing provocateur, Milo Yiannopoulos, and the resulting demonstration resulted in an anti-fascist protester being shot. WSU avoided such controversy, thanks to the weather: Yiannopoulos appearance was cancelled due to snowflakes.
It certainly made for a provocative discussion with the Civic Cocktail panel, which included me and the Seattle Times Katherine Long. The host and chief interviewer on the program is longtime journalist and pundit Joni Balter. (Crosscut was a media sponsor of the event.)
Yiannopoulos, who was an editor of the far-right nationalist news website Breitbart, has since been widely discredited for remarks he previously made where he seemed to condone man-boy child abuse (he is himself an abuse survivor). As a result of the furor over his comments, he quit his post at Breitbart and a major book contract for his memoir was cancelled. Yiannopoulos, known for his hateful trolling, had become a free speech martyr for speech no one wanted to defend.
The question lingers: Should Yiannopoulos have been allowed to speak on campus? He was the guest of a recognized university group and they can invite whomever they like. But as a video of his UW appearance demonstrates, he gave a rambling, crude and generally unprofessional performance, ideology aside. Was this worthy of the space, time and resources of public universities of the stature of ours? Couldnt his views have been presented in a more professional or scholarly manner?
When asked, both university presidents doubled down on their commitment to free speech. Period. Either or both could have nixed Yiannopoulos appearance but chose not to. Cauce described what happened outside the shooting of a demonstrator the UW event as incredibly tragic, and said she felt lucky that the young man who was shot survived. She said she wasnt sure if the UW could have done differently in the contentious circumstances surrounding the talk.
In defending the self-described provocateurs appearance, she said, This is not the moment to try and parse free speech, citing these times when speech and the press are being challenged. This was not someone who wanted to engage in civil discourse and the truth is freedoms can be abused and hes someone whos done that.
I had a question for both presidents that was rooted in local history. In 1934, the president of Washington State College (now WSU) told the German consul in Seattle that he could not come on campus to promote the agenda of Adolf Hitler. The diplomat, Walther Reinhardt, had been going around the state touting the New Germany and denying that there was any anti-Semitism there. But the colleges longtime president, Ernest Otto Holland, drew the line at promoting Nazism. He did not want the campus used to spread Third Reich propaganda. Isnt it OK to set some standards?
WSUs Schulz said he was uncomfortable being a free speech arbiter. I still think its very difficult to start deciding, me personally, whos OK to speak and whos not OK to speak. He said he thought the best way for students to make opinions known about a speaker was with their feet, meaning not giving them the attention theyre seeking or countering the message with peaceful protest.
Cauce added that she had confidence that UW students would not invite someone who was avidly Nazi. Given that many anti-Yiannopoulos protesters consider themselves anti-fascists, the definition of what constitutes avidly Nazi might differ.
The good news for free speech advocates is that both university presidents have essentially said that anything goes speech-wise on campus. I took their comments as setting a very high bar for censoring the views of campus invitees.
The bad news is that the standard for speakers isnt very high. Theres no requirement that they add coherent substance to debate or engage in civil discourse. That to me seems to surrender some of the responsibility of institutions that are supposed to be about higher learning.
I think the stand Washington States president, Ernest Otto Holland, took in 1934 would be considered anti-free speech by current university presidents standards. In the 1930s, many Americans were avidly buying Nazi propaganda, also widely accepted by the media. Part of the consequence: World War II and the Holocaust.
I find it very difficult to say that Holland was wrong in denying Nazi Germany a bully pulpit.
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Daines surpressed free speech – Billings Gazette
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Respect is difficult when, He's our president and should be respected, is the substance of many letters I've read in The Gazette. Unlike those writers, I cannot respect a person who is a liar, an egomaniac and incompetent; who intentionally fills his cabinet with bigots and incompetents. Then there are the issues of taxes and business dealings. When a person speaks and has the quality of sounding like a whiny little twit, that's difficult to respect.
There are those who can respect immoral persons, even presidents and I have little respect for those who can, like Max Lenington, who wrote scandalous emails on the taxpayer's dime or Sen. Daines, who, as a party lackey, suppressed a First Amendment free-speech right in a body where free speech should be the norm. Daines, without a thought, accepted arcane Rule 19 which, time and again, has not been enforced when senators previously had routinely violated that same rule.
Free speech works both ways. It allows you to speak out on an issue, like Editor Darrell Ehrlick did and it allows a response if a person take umbrage to someone's free speech. Daines, on the other hand, did not respond to an issue but squelched a person's First Amendment free-speech right.
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Free speech? It depends who you are, in Peter Dutton’s view – The Conversation AU
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Peter Dutton casts himself as championing freedom of speech.
Peter Dutton has advised Alan Joyce and other business executives who have written to Malcolm Turnbull urging action on same-sex marriage to stick to their knitting. Its advice some in the government would think he himself should take.
The Immigration Minister has launched a sustained jihad against the more than 30 business leaders who signed the letter, returning to the fray in his weekend speech to the Queensland Liberal National Party State Council and a press conference.
While he might argue this issue transcends portfolios, his strident intervention unhelpfully adds to Turnbulls problem with freelancing ministers and highlights divisions within the government. In response fellow cabinet ministers Julie Bishop and Simon Birmingham publicly defended the business leaders right to have their say.
Birmingham didnt mince words. I think throughout history, business leaders have often stepped ahead of legislators in supporting reforms related to gender equity or racial equity. And I see no reason as to why business leaders are not free to do likewise when it comes to issues like marriage equality.
Duttons attack deserves close attention because he is seen, and sees himself, as the conservatives flag waver in cabinet and has recently been talked up in the media as a possible future leader.
In their letter, the business leaders said the time has come to resolve this important reform, calling on Turnbull to legislate for marriage equality so the Government can get on with its core economic agenda. They outlined what they saw as a compelling business case for change. This included the interests of their employees, meeting the values of customers, and Australias global reputation as a welcoming and inclusive nation.
Duttons counter was scattergun. Speaking to 2GBs Ray Hadley last week he ranged from denouncing the business leaders right to act as they did to his personal gripe with Telstras customer service.
Delivering a shot across their bow, he told Hadley that CEOs on big dollars should concentrate on their businesses and the improvement of the economy. Social issues should be left up to the politicians, to the leaders, to talkback hosts like yourself, to normal people who can have those discussions without the millions of dollars being thrown behind campaigns because somehow it makes the board feel better or meets their social obligation.
He had a serious dummy spit over his home phone. My view of Telstra is that theyd be better off to concentrate their efforts on cleaning up their call centre operations because we had a problem with our phone at home last week I lead a fairly busy life, the thought of hanging on the phone for an hour to some person in the Philippines and still getting nowhere at the end of the call drives me crazy.
"Now, heres a suggestion for Telstra. Instead of getting caught up and spending you investors money, your shareholders money on all these political causes, what about tidying up your own backyard first and providing a proper standard of care and service to your customers?
At the weekend it was the turn of Qantas to be singled out. Alan Joyce, the individual, is perfectly entitled to campaign for, and spend his hard earned money on, any issue he sees fit, but dont do it in the official capacity and with shareholders money. And certainly dont use an iconic brand and the might of a multi-billion dollar business on issues best left to the judgement of individuals and elected decision-makers.
And in the wake of social media pressure forcing Coopers Brewery to back away from its association with a Bible Society ad featuring a same-sex marriage debate between two Liberal MPs - Dutton said it was unconscionable that some companies were morally coerced into supporting campaigns in fear of being extorted by an online social media push to boycott their product.
Dutton casts himself as championing freedom of speech. But in todays acrimonious culture war, those calling for more free speech are squealing increasingly loudly when others exercise their freedom in a way they dont like.
This indeed was the business leaders speaking freely, and they obviously believe their stand will advance or protect their businesses interests.
One wonders if Dutton would be lashing out if they had written to Turnbull supporting a change in 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act in the name of freedom of speech.
As for his argument that the CEOs are using shareholder funds, Dutton has so far produced no backup for this, unless he is referring to their own salaries.
When it comes to social media, the exhortations by online campaigns for people to boycott products surely falls under freedom of speech. (Its a different matter if substantive threats are made.)
The tone of these campaigns can be offensive - but remember that in the 18C debate, the conservatives want the removal of the reference to offend.
Dutton has a particular interest in GetUps ability to campaign. GetUp mobilised against him at the last election, when his margin was cut.
Meanwhile Turnbull continues to stick to the plebiscite policy on same-sex marriage. He has little option.
Dutton was blunt at the weekend: The partys position has been very clear and we are not going to deviate from that position.
For some of the conservatives, same-sex marriage has become rather like the carbon issue was in 2009, when Turnbull was opposition leader.
Then, many in his party were unhappy with him, as many are at present.
His commitment to an emissions trading scheme lit the fuse. Bizarre as it sounds, a fuse could be lit if Turnbull walked away from the plebiscite policy to embrace a parliamentary vote, as the business leaders want. Which is presumably why he wont do it any time soon, although how he gets to a viable policy to take to the election is anyones guess.
Most immediately, he has to deal with the issue of section 18C. This is due to go to cabinet for discussion on Monday. A report from a parliamentary inquiry recommended a suite of changes to the processes of the Human Rights Commission but left open the question of the future of the wording to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate that the conservatives want changed.
The politically savvy course especially with a view to campaigning in seats with large ethnic votes - would be to fix the processes and leave the wording. But that wont satisfy those conservatives set on a culture war mission.
Postscript
As Parliament resumes on Monday, Newspoll in The Australian sees an improvement in the Governments position and that of Malcolm Turnbull.
Labors two-party lead has been cut to 52-48%, compared with 55-45% three weeks ago.
The Coalitions primary vote has risen from 34% to 37%, while Labors has fallen from 37% to 35%. The Greens are down a point to 9%.
Turnbull leads Bill Shorten as better prime minister by 14 points (43-29%) compared with his seven point lead in the last poll, at the end of February. Turnbulls net satisfaction has improved from minus 30 to minus 27, while Shortens has worsened from minus 26 to minus 28.
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Freedom of speech: S’pore in the eyes the world? – The Independent
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By: Leong Sze Hian
I refer to the High Commissioner of Singapore, Londons letter Free speech in Singapore (The Economist, Mar 17).
It states that Grumble and be damned (March 11th) alleged a lack of free speech in Singapore. Yet Singaporeans have free access to information and the internet, including to The Economist and the BBC. We do not stifle criticism of the government. But we will not allow our judiciary to be denigrated under the cover of free speech, nor will we protect hate or libellous speech. People can go to court to defend their integrity and correct falsehoods purveyed against them. Opposition politicians have done this, successfully.
You cited the case of three protesters convicted for creating a public nuisance at Speakers Corner. They were not charged for criticising the government, but for loutishly barging into a performance by a group of special-education-needs children, frightening them and denying them the right to be heard.
I googled and found that the following organisations have issued statements in regards to the above case at Speakers Corner:
United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights Report of the Special Rapporteur on the rights to freedom of peaceful assembly and of association (Jun 16,2016)
International Federation for Human Rights(FIDH) Conviction of three peaceful protestors condemned (Feb 22, 2017)
United Nations Special Rapporteur on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression; Special Rapporteur on the rights to freedom of peaceful assembly and of association; and Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights defenders To the Singapore Government vide the Ambassador of Singapore to the United nations (Oct 30, 2015)
Amnesty International Conviction of activists must be overturned (Feb 21, 2017)
Human Rights Watch World Report 2015 on Singapore
Frontlinedefenders: Human Rights Defender Han Hui Hui case file
It would appear from the above that the weight of world opinion seems to be contrary to Singapores.
The discerning reader may like to read the above and make an informed judgement as to who or what makes more or less sense?
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Iqra Khalid’s Islamic Crusade to suppress freedom of speech under … – Canada Free Press
Posted: at 4:09 pm
I ask you, is a petition that only represents 0.19% of Canadians a democratically valid basis for enacting any manner of legislation
Iqra Khalid MP, MississaugaErin Mills 3100 Ridgeway Drive, Suite 35 Mississauga, Ontario L5L 5M5 Telephone: 905-820-8814 Fax: 905-820-4068
Dear Ms. Khalid;
I find your motion before the Canadian Parliament listed below to be offensive and if transmuted into law or metastasized into a crown inquiry by any manner of legislative or political chicanery; an act of political violence against one of the most sacrosanct cornerstones and inalienable rights of free speech, long recognized via Anglo-Saxon Common Law and our Judeo-Christian heritage. Many a monarch or totalitarian dictator have in the distant past or immediate present given their seal to laws that oppressed those who were in vocal opposition to the draconian rules said rulers unilaterally imposed on their subjects. While freedom of speech was a sacrosanct concept, there were also longstanding laws covering slander and libel that gave those who felt impugned by anothers freedom of speech to seek redress and legal remedy in the courts and juries of 12 peers that are also an integral part of Anglo-Saxon Common Law and our Judea-Christian heritage. Despite predating it by a millennium, this concept of seeking redress before a jury of 12 peers, was first codified into the Magna Carta over 800 years ago by Stephen Langton, the Archbishop of Canterbury. Political Correctness and the labeling of free speech as Hate speech are Marxist concepts to silence all forms of legitimate dissent in otherwise free societies.
Justin Trudeau has moved the 2nd reading of Motion M103 from April to March 21, 2017:
Text of the Motion That, in the opinion of the House, the government should: (a) recognize the need to quell the increasing public climate of hate and fear; (b) condemn Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination and take note of House of Commons petition e-411 and the issues raised by it; and (c) request that the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage undertake a study on how the government could (i) develop a whole-of-government approach to reducing or eliminating systemic racism and religious discrimination including Islamophobia, in Canada, while ensuring a community-centered focus with a holistic response through evidence-based policy-making, (ii) collect data to contextualize hate crime reports and to conduct needs assessments for impacted communities, and that the Committee should present its findings and recommendations to the House no later than 240 calendar days from the adoption of this motion, provided that in its report, the Committee should make recommendations that the government may use to better reflect the enshrined rights and freedoms in the Constitution Acts, including the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
You use petition e-411 as justification for your anti-Islamophobia motion, the numbers thereof are listed below:
Figure 1 E-411 statistics
I ask you, is a petition that only represents 0.19% of Canadians a democratically valid basis for enacting any manner of legislation, especially legislation that would effectively curtail freedom of speech? Especially when you consider that 1.59 percent of the respondents were from other countries and represent a higher percentage of the total than either the total population of Newfoundland and Labrador, Northwest Territories, Nunavut, Prince Edward Island or Yukon is a percentage of the total Canadian population. Since when do other countries have any say in Canadian affairs and legislative matters? I also note that the response from Ontario was 164.71% of the population ratio; completely disproportionate.
Why mention Islamophobia, and not Christophobia or Anti-Semitism, both of which have been growing in leaps and bounds? If Islamophobia is such a problem, then why not be completely honest and identify the root cause of the Islamophobia? The plain definition of Phobia is an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something and I ask you, are Canadians or those in any western civilized country having extreme or irrational fears about the Islamists, Jihadists or Radical Islam or rather legitimate concerns? Why not have a motion condemning Radical Islam, Islamists or Islamic Jihad, because if these scourges on the Judeo-Christian heritage of western civilizations, and the umma in general were eliminated there would be nothing for people to develop Islamophobia from!
You cant even be as intellectually honest as Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi was months before the Charlie Hebdo attack when he spoke at the most revered institute of Islamic learning Al-Azhar University and spoke to Imams on New Years Day, this is a translated excerpt of his speech.
I am referring here to the religious clerics. ... Its inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma (Islamic world) to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!
That thinkingI am not saying religion but thinkingthat corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the centuries, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. Its antagonizing the entire world! ... All this that I am telling you, you cannot feel it if you remain trapped within this mindset. You need to step outside of yourselves to be able to observe it and reflect on it from a more enlightened perspective.
I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move ... because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lostand it is being lost by our own hands.
You received a far better education than Muslims like Malala Yousafzai who nearly lost her life by standing up to the Taliban for her right to have an education in your birth country; so why not criticize those who nearly snuffed out her life over something that you are obviously taking for granted, instead of the legitimate fear that many more Canadians that signed your petition have over what occurred to Malala?
Words have meanings and I note that you used the word quell in your motion: put an end to (a rebellion or other disorder), typically by the use of force
Is this not an oxymoron then I dont know what is, as the root of any Islamophobia, if it exists, is the fear of the use of force that the Jihadists and Islamist are perpetrating on a daily basis. Perhaps you can enlighten us by documenting all the different religious ideologies whose fanatics adopt the chant Allahu Akbar that have nothing to do with Islam? I might note that a significant percentage of hard core Nazis were Catholic before being radicalized and their battle cry was not Hail Mary but rather Sieg Heil!
I wonder what sort of phobia the LGBT community has in majority Muslim nations when they are stoned to death or thrown off the nearest roof or both?
What about the fear of rape amongst the many women sold into sexual slavery or married at age of 12 and younger? There is a term Virgivitiphobia, however the Latin Virgi means of a marriageable age and in Canada or most other civilized western countries, 12 and younger is not a marriageable age!
Given the disproportionate response to petition e-411 coming from Ontario, it is my opinion that you are just another pathetic politician, practicing taqiyya and pandering to an identifiable constituency group for re-election and are showing little respect for the Judeo-Christian heritage of Canada. It would do you and the rest of Canada a world of good for you to return to the country of your birth for a few years and try and further your education in the same manner as Malala Yousafzai was trying, before shoving your Islamophobic myths and Sharia Laws down the throats of Canadians in an effort to silence their right of free speech over being legitimately appalled by the acts of the Islamists and Jihadists in the name of Radical Islam that you are obviously afraid to criticize in your aforementioned motion.
Desmond McGrath
I will not be silenced by your taqiyya based motions.
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Bills in New York State Legislature Target Free Speech – The New American
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One bill currently in the New York State legislature would fine individuals or website or search engine operators for refusing to remove online material deemed to be inaccurate, irrelevant, inadequate, or excessive. Three other bills already passed by the state senate would, among other things, deny funding tostudent groupsat public universities who advocate for Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) of Israel and other U.S. allied nations.
The first bill A05323 and S04561, the Right to be forgotten act would require any individual (including all search engines, indexers, publishers and any other persons) to remove, upon the request of any individual, information, articles, identifying information, and other content about such individual, as well as links, that is inaccurate, irrelevant, inadequate, or excessive.
The bill includes this vague and arbitrary definition of what constitutes inaccurate, irrelevant, inadequate, or excessive information:
For purposes of this section, "inaccurate", "irrelevant", "inadequate", or "excessive" shall mean content, which after a significant lapse in time from its first publication, is no longer material to current public debate or discourse, especially when considered in light of the financial, reputational and/or demonstrable other harm that the information, article or other content is causing to the requesters professional, financial, reputational or other interest, with the exception of content related to convicted felonies, legal matters relating to violence, or a matter that is of significant current public interest, and as to which the requester's role with regard to the matter is central and substantial.
Violators who do not comply and take down the objectionable information within 30 days after receiving a removal request will be subject to a fine equal to the actual monetary loss for each violation, or statutory damages in the amount of $250 for each day of the violation after the removal request, whichever is greater. Additionally, notes the bill, the party who does not honor the removal request will have to pay to the requester any and all costs and attorneys fees incurred while enforcing his or her rights under this act.
Since determining the actual monetary loss of the requester would be difficult outside of a court of law, this law obviously encourages litigation hence its reference to the recovery of attorneys fees.
The law also opens a Pandoras Box of potential litigation by holding liable not only the individual originally posting the objectionable information, but also all site managers of all articles and other content that either is presently being made available on the internet, or other widely used computer-based network, program or service, regardless of when such articles and other content was first so or otherwise posted, published or otherwise made available."
Anyone who frequently uses online social networking sites understands how readily users share material from one users page to anothers. And writers who publish online frequently cite material from other writers and include links to other articles within their own. This means that once objectionable material has been shared or copied onto other sites, each and every other site manager becomes liable to be fined if they do not remove it. If passed, this law would create a legal nightmare.
The Right to be forgotten act has not been acted on, and if common sense prevails, it never will be. However, three other bills already passed by the New York State Senate would also attack free speech. They would, respectively, 1): deny funding tostudent groupsat public universities who advocate for Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) of Israel and American allied nations; 2): deny public universities from using state money to fund membership in, or travel and lodging for a meeting of, an academic association that boycotts Israel; and, 3): create a blacklist to deny state contracts to and investment inindividuals, organizations, and businesses that boycott American allied nations.
A commentary on these bills posted by The Bill of Rights Defense Committee/Defending Dissent Foundation serves to make clear the distinction between personal or partisan positions on political or foreign policy issues and the fundamental right to freedom of speech. It notes:
The bills specifically target critics of Israels policies toward Palestinians. While as a civil liberties organization we take no position on the Israel-Palestine conflict, we recognize that the speech targeted by these bills is exactly what the First Amendment is designed to protect.Bills that attack the right to protest impact all of us adversely.
The groups post then continues by summarizing the three individual bills:
S.2493 Would deny funding tostudent groupsat public universities who advocate for Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) of Israel and American allied nations...
S.4837Would deny public universities from using state money to fund membership in, or travel and lodging for a meeting of, an academic association that boycotts Israel.
S.2492Would create a blacklist to deny state contracts to and investment inindividuals, organizations, and businesses that boycott American allied nations.
When we read the rest of S.2492, we find that allied nations means many nations besides Israel. It includes all NATO member nations, any country that was a signer of SEATO in 1954, any country other than Venezuela that is a signer of the Rio Treaty of 1947, and the individual nations (besides Israel) of Ireland, Japan, and the Republic of Korea (South Korea).
Considering the large number of nations included in the above definition, and the many possible policies all of these nations might take on a number of issues, some of which an American might approve of and some of which an American might quite legitimately, in good conscience, disapprove of, the proposed bill would most certainly constitute a deterrent to freedom of speech.
Continuing, The Bill of Rights Defense Committee post observes:
The Supreme Court has explicitly stated boycotts for political, economic, and social change are protected political speech under the First Amendment. The Supreme Court has also ruled that the state cannot deny public benefits based on individuals or organizations exercise of free speech rights. Courts across the country have also continuously found that public universities cannot deny funding or other resources to student groups, because of their political point of view.
Another article published by Breitbart last June about a predecessor to S. 2493 introduced in the New York legislature during last years session questions the constitutionality of that legislation, which in addition to naming boycotts of allied nations, also included boycotts against a person or group based on race, class, gender, nationality, ethnic origin or religion as grounds for withholding funding. The article stated:
The bill is potentially a violation of the 1st Amendment, as universities must be consistently neutral when it comes to funding student groups. The Washington Post notes, In a series of decisions, [the Supreme] Court has emphasized that the First Amendment generally precludes public universities from denying student organizations access to school-sponsored forums because of the groups viewpoints.
As terms such as discrimination, intolerance, and hate speech are subjective and open to interpretation, the universities would be actively engaging in viewpoint discrimination.
Self-identified liberals are fond of citing academic freedom as a principle guaranteeing that all viewpoints should be allowed to be freely expressed on our nations campuses. However, in reality, anyone attempting to express any viewpoint other than whatever the current liberal cause du jour is will quickly find that freedom of expression does not apply to him or her.
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Iqra Khalid’s Islamic Crusade to suppress freedom of speech under ruse of Islamophobia – Canada Free Press
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I ask you, is a petition that only represents 0.19% of Canadians a democratically valid basis for enacting any manner of legislation
Iqra Khalid MP, MississaugaErin Mills 3100 Ridgeway Drive, Suite 35 Mississauga, Ontario L5L 5M5 Telephone: 905-820-8814 Fax: 905-820-4068
Dear Ms. Khalid;
I find your motion before the Canadian Parliament listed below to be offensive and if transmuted into law or metastasized into a crown inquiry by any manner of legislative or political chicanery; an act of political violence against one of the most sacrosanct cornerstones and inalienable rights of free speech, long recognized via Anglo-Saxon Common Law and our Judeo-Christian heritage. Many a monarch or totalitarian dictator have in the distant past or immediate present given their seal to laws that oppressed those who were in vocal opposition to the draconian rules said rulers unilaterally imposed on their subjects. While freedom of speech was a sacrosanct concept, there were also longstanding laws covering slander and libel that gave those who felt impugned by anothers freedom of speech to seek redress and legal remedy in the courts and juries of 12 peers that are also an integral part of Anglo-Saxon Common Law and our Judea-Christian heritage. Despite predating it by a millennium, this concept of seeking redress before a jury of 12 peers, was first codified into the Magna Carta over 800 years ago by Stephen Langton, the Archbishop of Canterbury. Political Correctness and the labeling of free speech as Hate speech are Marxist concepts to silence all forms of legitimate dissent in otherwise free societies.
Justin Trudeau has moved the 2nd reading of Motion M103 from April to March 21, 2017:
Text of the Motion That, in the opinion of the House, the government should: (a) recognize the need to quell the increasing public climate of hate and fear; (b) condemn Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination and take note of House of Commons petition e-411 and the issues raised by it; and (c) request that the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage undertake a study on how the government could (i) develop a whole-of-government approach to reducing or eliminating systemic racism and religious discrimination including Islamophobia, in Canada, while ensuring a community-centered focus with a holistic response through evidence-based policy-making, (ii) collect data to contextualize hate crime reports and to conduct needs assessments for impacted communities, and that the Committee should present its findings and recommendations to the House no later than 240 calendar days from the adoption of this motion, provided that in its report, the Committee should make recommendations that the government may use to better reflect the enshrined rights and freedoms in the Constitution Acts, including the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
You use petition e-411 as justification for your anti-Islamophobia motion, the numbers thereof are listed below:
Figure 1 E-411 statistics
I ask you, is a petition that only represents 0.19% of Canadians a democratically valid basis for enacting any manner of legislation, especially legislation that would effectively curtail freedom of speech? Especially when you consider that 1.59 percent of the respondents were from other countries and represent a higher percentage of the total than either the total population of Newfoundland and Labrador, Northwest Territories, Nunavut, Prince Edward Island or Yukon is a percentage of the total Canadian population. Since when do other countries have any say in Canadian affairs and legislative matters? I also note that the response from Ontario was 164.71% of the population ratio; completely disproportionate.
Why mention Islamophobia, and not Christophobia or Anti-Semitism, both of which have been growing in leaps and bounds? If Islamophobia is such a problem, then why not be completely honest and identify the root cause of the Islamophobia? The plain definition of Phobia is an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something and I ask you, are Canadians or those in any western civilized country having extreme or irrational fears about the Islamists, Jihadists or Radical Islam or rather legitimate concerns? Why not have a motion condemning Radical Islam, Islamists or Islamic Jihad, because if these scourges on the Judeo-Christian heritage of western civilizations, and the umma in general were eliminated there would be nothing for people to develop Islamophobia from!
You cant even be as intellectually honest as Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi was months before the Charlie Hebdo attack when he spoke at the most revered institute of Islamic learning Al-Azhar University and spoke to Imams on New Years Day, this is a translated excerpt of his speech.
I am referring here to the religious clerics. ... Its inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma (Islamic world) to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!
That thinkingI am not saying religion but thinkingthat corpus of texts and ideas that we have sacralized over the centuries, to the point that departing from them has become almost impossible, is antagonizing the entire world. Its antagonizing the entire world! ... All this that I am telling you, you cannot feel it if you remain trapped within this mindset. You need to step outside of yourselves to be able to observe it and reflect on it from a more enlightened perspective.
I say and repeat again that we are in need of a religious revolution. You, imams, are responsible before Allah. The entire world, I say it again, the entire world is waiting for your next move ... because this umma is being torn, it is being destroyed, it is being lostand it is being lost by our own hands.
You received a far better education than Muslims like Malala Yousafzai who nearly lost her life by standing up to the Taliban for her right to have an education in your birth country; so why not criticize those who nearly snuffed out her life over something that you are obviously taking for granted, instead of the legitimate fear that many more Canadians that signed your petition have over what occurred to Malala?
Words have meanings and I note that you used the word quell in your motion: put an end to (a rebellion or other disorder), typically by the use of force
Is this not an oxymoron then I dont know what is, as the root of any Islamophobia, if it exists, is the fear of the use of force that the Jihadists and Islamist are perpetrating on a daily basis. Perhaps you can enlighten us by documenting all the different religious ideologies whose fanatics adopt the chant Allahu Akbar that have nothing to do with Islam? I might note that a significant percentage of hard core Nazis were Catholic before being radicalized and their battle cry was not Hail Mary but rather Sieg Heil!
I wonder what sort of phobia the LGBT community has in majority Muslim nations when they are stoned to death or thrown off the nearest roof or both?
What about the fear of rape amongst the many women sold into sexual slavery or married at age of 12 and younger? There is a term Virgivitiphobia, however the Latin Virgi means of a marriageable age and in Canada or most other civilized western countries, 12 and younger is not a marriageable age!
Given the disproportionate response to petition e-411 coming from Ontario, it is my opinion that you are just another pathetic politician, practicing taqiyya and pandering to an identifiable constituency group for re-election and are showing little respect for the Judeo-Christian heritage of Canada. It would do you and the rest of Canada a world of good for you to return to the country of your birth for a few years and try and further your education in the same manner as Malala Yousafzai was trying, before shoving your Islamophobic myths and Sharia Laws down the throats of Canadians in an effort to silence their right of free speech over being legitimately appalled by the acts of the Islamists and Jihadists in the name of Radical Islam that you are obviously afraid to criticize in your aforementioned motion.
Desmond McGrath
I will not be silenced by your taqiyya based motions.
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Free speech isn’t always valuable – that’s not the point | Columnists … – The Decatur Daily
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You may think you love the First Amendment. You may get misty-eyed just thinking about it. It calls to mind Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein unraveling the Watergate scandal, Martin Luther King Jr. leading the March on Washington, Voltaire proclaiming, I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. (Voltaire didnt actually say that, but he probably wouldnt mind that you think he did.)
But sooner or later, you will come across something that will make you wonder just whats so great about freedom of speech.
It could be a campus speaker arguing that Adolf Hitler might have been onto something. Or a protester burning an American flag. Or your neighbors teenage son, who just bought a drone on Amazon and is now using it to take pictures of your front yard.
You will not disavow the First Amendment (because you love it, of course). You will squarely place the blame on those idiots who are clearly misinterpreting what it means, who think that free speech is somehow a free pass to be a total jerk. Theyre the problem, you tell yourself. The First Amendment, when applied properly, is great.
Maybe its time for us to come to terms with the truth: While everybody loves the First Amendment in theory, nobodys all that fond of it in practice.
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Consider the massive popularity of partisan media, and, as The Wall Street Journals Blue Feed, Red Feed project has shown, the complete lack of overlap between liberal and conservative Facebook feeds. We love speakers and media outlets that articulate the thoughts that we were already thinking. We can barely tolerate the ones that contradict our world view. As Nat Hentoff argued in his book, Free Speech For Me But Not For Thee, most of us struggle with the desire to relentlessly censor one another.
Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes understood this back in 1919: Persecution for the expression of opinions seems to me perfectly logical. If you ... want a certain result with all your heart, you naturally express your wishes in law, and sweep away all opposition. Of course, he followed this with an instruction to resist this natural urge, and to think of speech as a marketplace where all ideas should be allowed to compete so that the best ideas can emerge victorious.
Its nice to think about a bustling marketplace of ideas, but it might be a little tough to hold that cheery picture in your mind when you think about, say, the First Amendment right to sell dog-fighting videos, or to hold up a Thank God for dead soldiers banner outside a military funeral. When you picture a marketplace, you cant help but assess the value of the goods for sale. Do we really have to make space for the vendors selling rotten fruit, or that candy that contains trace amounts of lead?
Hate speech may be protected by the First Amendment, but what benefit do we actually derive from it? How much did Milo Yiannopouloss controversial campus visits contribute to intelligent debate when his speeches primarily revolved around publicly ridiculing audience members and basking in his own outrageousness? If the point of free speech is to encourage that intellectual marketplace, to make us a better society, why should we care about defending speech that we find intellectually worthless?
But theres another way to look at the First Amendment. Maybe we shouldnt think about free expression in terms of value. Free speech isnt always valuable, no matter how loosely you define that word. Sometimes its hurtful, or nonsensical, or idiotic.
Whats important is that free expression rights are always indivisible. Remember: The First Amendment protects your speech from government censorship. Its meant to keep the power to decide whats valuable expression and what isnt out of the hands of public officials. You are not in competition with the people who disagree with you. In the real conflict, all of us are on the same side: How much control over speech do we want to cede to the people in power?
In other words: Your rights are my rights. This is true even if I hate you. Nevertheless, I have to stand up for your rights to speak, to publish, to protest, even if I think your opinions are junk and you are wrong about everything. Not just in service of a lofty ideal, but also out of my own self-interest.
The same holds true for you, for all of us. You may advocate for hate speech policies that will silence bigots, but once theyre passed, these same laws can be used to silence you. You may support laws that are intended to restrict and neuter public protests, but you will find yourself without many options when it comes time to stand up for a cause that you believe in.
You dont have to love the First Amendment. Just acknowledge we all need it.
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More than 100 million adults in America claim to have a biblical worldview, according to a recent survey by George Barna and the American Culture & Faith Institute.
Could that possibly be right?
Or are tens of millions of Christians and Jews deceiving themselves?
Its an important question because everyone has a worldview. Its a set of beliefs that shapes our decisions, our choices and our actions.
Those who believe in secular humanism, postmodernism, existentialism, pantheism or nihilism will clearly make different personal, political and lifestyle choices than those who hold a biblical worldview. And, for those who hold a biblical worldview, we believe its the best hope for a free and self-governing society.
So what did Barna find?
It found that only 10 percent of American adults hold to a biblical worldview not 100 million. Not close. If, indeed, 100 million American adults had a biblical worldview, that would represent almost 50 percent of the adult population. So, instead of 100 million Americans, the number is closer to 24 million.
Furthermore, the survey found that the younger an adult is, the less likely he or she is to have a biblical worldview. Among adults 18 to 29 years old commonly referred to as millennials just 4 percent do. The number rises to 7 percent among those in the 30-to-49 age bracket; it doubles to 15 percent between 50 and 64; it peaks at 17 percent among those 65 or older.
Are we in trouble as a nation?
Yes, but all is not hopeless.
That some 100 million American adults want to identify with a biblical worldview is good news.
That they do identify with the values of the Bible, but dont fully understand what it means, suggests a problem with the shepherds. There are too many lost sheep and not enough shepherds equipped to track them down and feed them properly.
I believe most of those who self-identify as Christians and Jews the people of the Book dont really understand the Book.
And thats why I wrote The Restitution of All Things: Israel, Christians and the End of the Age.
Its an unusual book. In many ways, its shockingly radical. But its 100 percent Scripture-supported and the result of more than 40 years of study.
Would you like to have a Christian worldview?
Maybe this book will help. It was written with that specifically in mind, but it occurs to me that it can help.
There are too many denominations of Christianity in the world today. They cant all be right. Its entirely possible none of them have it totally right.
Therefore, every follower of Jesus has a responsibility to search the Scriptures like Bereans to determine if their beliefs are correct and to ensure they are on the straight and narrow road that leads to salvation and discipleship.
I am convinced this book can help simplify and clarify your earnest search for the truth.
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Left-wing Oprah Eyes Possible Presidential Bid in 2020 – The New American
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Buoyed by a recently released poll by Public Policy Polling which showed her leading President Donald Trump 47-40 in a hypothetical 2020 match-up, daytime talk show queen Oprah Winfrey (shown) is said to be toying with the idea of making a bid for the White House.
Of course, Trump trailed Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton throughout most of the 2016 campaign, by as much as 15 points in some polls, so polling almost four years in advance of an election is often dismissed as meaningless. After all, if polling that far in advance was conclusive, then we would have had presidents Dewey, Muskie, and Dukakis instead of Truman, Nixon, and George H.W. Bush.
But, considering that few gave Trump much of a shot, even when he was performing well in polls early in the Republican nomination battle in late 2015 and early 2016, we should not dismiss a run by such a well-known media personality as Winfrey. Trump had achieved high name recognition as the host of the popular TV show The Apprentice, and Winfrey, if anything, enjoyed even higher name I.D. from her TV fame.
Given the popularity you have, and that we havent broken the glass ceiling yet for women, you could actually run for president and you could be elected, talk show host David Rubinstein told Winfrey, urging her to consider the idea.
Trumps path to the White House as a celebrity is seen by some such as Rubinstein as an indication that the voters are now looking at style over substance; however, while Trump had a greater name I.D. than most of his Republican rivals, his positions on issues were just as critical to his success. He tackled such subjects as disastrous international trade deals and the tsunami of illegal immigration that the other candidates generally avoided, demonstrating an ability to connect with voters.
Though Winfrey is undoubtedly noted for her ability to connect with her many fans, whether that talent will translate into political success remains to be seen.
Left-wing CNN commentator Van Jones, who has a communist background, boldly predicted that Winfrey would not only defeat Trump, but that she would beat him a historic landslide. Speaking on Bravos late-night show Watch What Happens Next, Jones argued, It takes a superstar to beat a superstar. And I think if Oprah Winfrey ran, shed win all 50 states.
Jones also mentioned Democrats Senator Kamala Harris (Calif.), Senator Corey Booker (N.J.), and Congressman Joe Kennedy III (Mass.). All three, of course, are conventional politicians, and Trump showed that celebrities can surprise such professionals.
Winfrey has already demonstrated that she has political clout at least within the more liberal base of the Democratic Party. It was her support of fellow Chicagoan U.S. Senator Barack Obama in 2007 that is seen as giving him the extra credibility he needed to upset Hillary Clinton to win the 2008 Democratic Party nomination.
Her open endorsement of Obama was the first time that Winfrey had publicly backed a political candidate. She held a fundraiser for him in September 2007 at her estate, and then three months later she joined Obama for a series of rallies in the early primary states of Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. Some have estimated that she could have swung more than one and a half million votes for Obama, providing the difference in his eventual victory.
What had given her such exceptional pull with voters, especially among those who cast votes in the Democratic primaries? Certainly it was the trust her many fans placed in her, especially women who were given the unofficial go-ahead to abandon the female hopeful, Hillary Clinton. This emotional bond was built over several years because of Oprah's highly popular daytime talk show.
How did Winfrey rise from poverty to become the wealthiest black woman in American history? She apparently possessed an ability to talk and connect with an audience as early as high school, when she had a job in radio; at age 19 she co-anchored the local evening news. Of course, her entry into television was helped immensely when she won the Miss Black Tennessee beauty pageant at age 17.
Her unusual name of Oprah was certainly another factor in her success. Named Orpah on her birth certificate, after the biblical character, that name proved difficult for others to pronounce, and she eventually became known as Oprah. In the Bible, Orpah was the daughter-in-law of the Israelite Naomi who returned to her Moabite gods when Naomis other daughter-in-law, Ruth, chose to instead accept the God of Israel. (Ruth was an ancestor of King David, and eventually, of course, of Jesus Christ).
Raised a Baptist, the young Oprah was taken to church by her grandmother, where Oprah was dubbed The Preacher for her ability to quote Bible verses. But Winfrey has certainly abandoned the adherence to the Scriptures her grandmother and the Baptists attempted to instill in her. She rejected the more conservative Baptist faith when she heard a minister say, The Lord thy God is a jealous God. Oprah said at the moment the preacher said the word jealous, there was something about that [that] didnt feel right in my spirit because I believe that God is love and God is in all things.
The belief that God is in all things is better known as pantheism. Indeed, Winfrey has often advocated the views of New Age spiritualist Eckhart Tolle on the web and in her TV shows. "I took God out of the box, she says of her efforts. One of the mistakes that human beings make is believing that there is only one way to live. There are many paths to what you call God. (Emphasis added). At another time, she indicated that her concept of God is not orthodox, asserting, God is a feeling experience and not a believing experience. If your religion is a believing experience ... then thats not truly God.
She has also even been quoted as saying, I have a church with myself: I have church walking down the street. I believe in [a] God force that lives inside all of us, and once you tap into that, you can do anything. This sounds more like a line from the Star Wars movies than something found in a Christian church.
Soon after the September 11 attacks, Winfrey came to the defense of Islam in a program she called Islam 101, calling it a peaceful religion and arguing that it was the most misunderstood of the three major religions.
Her religious views may not damage her political chances within the more liberal base Democratic Party; however, it is uncertain whether such theology would be acceptable to a general election audience.
Sociologist Vicki Abt criticized Winfrey in her book Coming After Oprah: Cultural Fallout in the Age of the TV Talk Show. Abt charged that Winfreys show was critical in blurring the lines between normal and deviant behavior. Of course, supporters, on the other hand, credit her for making the LGBT movement, for instance, mainstream and more socially acceptable.
Besides Oprah's social views, her political opinions are certainly not conservative, either. In 2009, she traveled to Denmark to praise its socialist system. According to Winfrey, the Danes are the happiest people on earth, who particularly enjoy living in very small houses. (Apparently Winfrey likes a bigger house than these happy Danes.)
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) honored her as the 2008 Person of the Year for her work in uncovering mistreatment of animals and her advocacy of a vegan diet. She also refused to wear fur or even allow it to be shown in her magazine, O.
It is uncertain, of course, whether Winfrey will actually make a presidential bid. She would be 67 years old in 2020 still younger than either Trump or Clinton was in the last election (and though it didn't seem to matter to the 70-year-old Trump, Clintons health definitely was a matter of some discussion).
But if she were to run, when one considers the present state of the American electorate, she would have to be taken seriously.
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