{"id":69712,"date":"2012-02-23T00:19:30","date_gmt":"2012-02-23T00:19:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.designerchildren.com\/high-court-torn-over-law-banning-lies-about-medals\/"},"modified":"2012-02-23T00:19:30","modified_gmt":"2012-02-23T00:19:30","slug":"high-court-torn-over-law-banning-lies-about-medals","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/free-speech\/high-court-torn-over-law-banning-lies-about-medals\/","title":{"rendered":"High court torn over law banning lies about medals"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p class=\"first\">    WASHINGTON (AP) \u2014 Free speech cases before the Supreme Court often    lead justices to consider far-fetched scenarios, and    Wednesday&#039;s argument over a law making it a crime to lie about    having received top military honors was no exception.  <\/p>\n<p>    One after another, the justices wanted to know whether a    decision upholding the Stolen Valor Act could lead down a    slippery slope to new laws against such things as lying about    the Holocaust, an extramarital affair, a high school diploma,    college degrees or to impress a date.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Where do you stop?\" Chief Justice John Roberts asked at    one point.  <\/p>\n<p>    But the justices also suggested that it might be possible in    this case to uphold the 2006 law anyway by reasoning that    Congress    has an interest in protecting medals it created to honor war    heroes.  <\/p>\n<p>    Justice Anthony    Kennedy, who asked about lies about college degrees,    also seemed open to sustaining the law.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Here it does seem to me that you can argue that this is    something like a trademark, a medal in which the government and    the armed forces have a particular interest, and we could carve    out a narrow exception for that. I think we would have to do    that,\" Kennedy said.  <\/p>\n<p>    The high court has in recent years overwhelmingly rejected    limits on speech, striking down a federal ban on videos showing    graphic violence against animals and a state law aimed at keep    violent video games away from children. The court also rejected    the attempt by the father of a dead Marine to sue    fundamentalist church members who staged a mocking protest at    his son&#039;s funeral.  <\/p>\n<p>    And in 1989, the court said the Constitution protects the    burning of the American flag.  <\/p>\n<p>    Justice Sonia    Sotomayor said the earlier cases made clear that merely    offending others by itself is not enough to justify limiting    speech.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"So outside of the emotional reaction, where&#039;s the harm? And    I&#039;m not minimizing it. I, too, take offense when people make    these kinds of claims, but I take offense when someone I&#039;m    dating makes a claim that&#039;s not true,\" said Sotomayor, who is    divorced.  <\/p>\n<p>    She seemed the least willing member of the court to accept the    Obama administration&#039;s defense of the law and disputed the view    that the value of the highest award, the Medal of Honor, or any    others has been diminished because some people lie about having    received them.  <\/p>\n<p>    The administration&#039;s top Supreme Court lawyer, Solicitor General Donald    Verrilli Jr., defended the law as targeted to protect    the integrity of the system established by Gen. George    Washington in 1782. Wednesday was Washington&#039;s 280th birthday.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"The Stolen Valor Act regulates a very narrowly drawn and    specific category of calculated factual falsehood, a verifiably    false claim that an individual has won a military honor,\"    Verrilli said.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the other side from Sotomayor was Justice Antonin Scalia. \"When    Congress passed this legislation, I assume it did so because it    thought that the value of the awards that these courageous    members of the armed forces were receiving was being demeaned    and diminished by charlatans. That&#039;s what Congress thought,\"    Scalia said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jonathan Libby, the federal public defender arguing against the    law, said Congress&#039; intent is hard to discern because it passed    the legislation without any hearings.  <\/p>\n<p>    The effort to limit the reach of a ruling in favor of the law    appeared to be the court&#039;s most pressing concern.  <\/p>\n<p>    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wondered whether Congress could use    the same rationale put forth by Verrilli to justify laws    against denying the existence of the Holocaust or lying merely    about having served in the military.  <\/p>\n<p>    Justice Elena Kagan asked whether the government&#039;s concern    about the stability of the family could lead to a law \"to    prevent everybody from telling lies about their extramarital    affairs.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Several justices expressed concern that a ruling striking down    the law might also call into question a separate provision that    makes it a crime to actually wear an unearned medal.  <\/p>\n<p>    Libby&#039;s client, Xavier Alvarez, was one of the first    people prosecuted for violating the Stolen Valor Act. Alvarez    told a meeting of the Three Valleys Municipal Water District in    Pomona, Calif., to which he had been elected, that he was a    wounded war veteran who has received the Medal of Honor.  <\/p>\n<p>    He never served in the armed forces.  <\/p>\n<p>    Libby said public exposure of lies about military medals is    preferable to prosecution. Alvarez \"still was exposed for who    he was, which was a liar,\" Libby said.  <\/p>\n<p>    The two federal appeals courts that have considered the issue    have come to different conclusions. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court    of Appeals in San Francisco struck down the law in Alvarez&#039;s    case. The 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Denver upheld    the law in the case of another false claim of military valor.  <\/p>\n<p>    Civil liberties groups, writers, publishers and news media    outlets, including The Associated Press, have told the justices    they worry that the law, and especially the administration&#039;s    defense of it, could lead to more attempts by government to    regulate speech.  <\/p>\n<p>    Veterans groups are backing the administration.  <\/p>\n<p>    If the court were to strike down the law, legislation proposed    by Rep. Joe Heck, R-Nev., would make it a crime to benefit from    lying about a military record.  <\/p>\n<p>    A decision is expected by late June.  <\/p>\n<p>    The case is U.S. v. Alvarez, 11-210.  <\/p>\n<p>    ___  <\/p>\n<p>    Online:  <\/p>\n<p>    Military Times Hall of Valor database:    <a href=\"http:\/\/militarytimes.com\/citations-medals-awards\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/militarytimes.com\/citations-medals-awards<\/a>  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Read more:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/high-court-torn-over-law-banning-lies-medals-213529013.html\" title=\"High court torn over law banning lies about medals\">High court torn over law banning lies about medals<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> WASHINGTON (AP) \u2014 Free speech cases before the Supreme Court often lead justices to consider far-fetched scenarios, and Wednesday&#039;s argument over a law making it a crime to lie about having received top military honors was no exception. 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