{"id":69660,"date":"2012-02-13T23:33:21","date_gmt":"2012-02-13T23:33:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.designerchildren.com\/rapid-response-i-heart-school-rules-vs-free-speech\/"},"modified":"2012-02-13T23:33:21","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T23:33:21","slug":"rapid-response-i-heart-school-rules-vs-free-speech","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/free-speech\/rapid-response-i-heart-school-rules-vs-free-speech\/","title":{"rendered":"Rapid response: I (HEART) &#8230; school rules vs. free speech"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      Question: The American Civil Liberties Union is backing a      lawsuit filed against Twin Lakes School Corp., which asked a      Roosevelt Middle School eighth-grader to remove a breast      cancer awareness bracelet -- which read \"I (Heart) Boobies\"      -- or turn it inside out. The suit contends that wearing the      bracelet was a matter of free speech and should have been      allowed. What&#039;s your take?    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 As correctly stated in Tinker v. Des Moines, First      Amendment speech rights apply to youths as well as adults and      don&#039;t end at the schoolhouse door. Twin Lakes&#039; decision to      threaten expulsion for doing something so harmless boggles      the mind and embarrasses the corporation.    <\/p>\n<p>      Frank Arnold    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Hasn&#039;t this all been covered before? Under free speech,      students are allowed to wear arguably offensive T-shirts as      long as the district retained the right to make sure the      shirts don&#039;t cause a disruption of the school process. The      same will apply to the breast cancer awareness bracelets.    <\/p>\n<p>      Edward Priest    <\/p>\n<p>      Battle Ground    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Breasts. Now there&#039;s something controversial. Next it&#039;ll be      elbows. Or fingers. Middle fingers, even.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jason Dufair    <\/p>\n<p>      West Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Either support the rules\/dress codes established by your      schools, be a part of changing the rules (without lawsuits)      or home-school your children. I&#039;m a breast cancer survivor      and dislike that slogan because I find the wording demeaning      -- even though the intention is good. There are better ways      to fight cancer and exercise free speech.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jane Anderson    <\/p>\n<p>      West Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Where do you draw the line? How far will attention-getters      take you? Do you think he was wearing that bracelet for what      it said or for what it stood for?    <\/p>\n<p>      Mark Acles    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 What part of \"no\" do these kids\/parents not understand?      Rules are rules. That&#039;s why no guns, knives, etc., are      allowed in school. Cancer has nothing to do with \"I (Heart)      Boobies.\" Imagine a doctor telling a woman \"Gee, Mrs. Jones,      sorry, you have boobie cancer!\"    <\/p>\n<p>      Cliff Davenport    <\/p>\n<p>      Rossville    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Would it have been \"free speech\" if the same boy went down      the hall at school just saying the words. Can we call the      word \"bomb\" at the airport free speech? I would not allow my      child to wear the bracelet to school. The words are not      appropriate in school.    <\/p>\n<p>      (Page 2 of 5)    <\/p>\n<p>      Shelby Branstetter    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 The school is fighting a battle it did not need to take on.      All it did was make a cause celebre of the student, which was      exactly what he was striving for. Common sense is such a      lacking commodity. I assume this school has no other \"issues\"      that need attention versus this earth-shattering situation.    <\/p>\n<p>      Bud Wang    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 If this is a legitimate charity for breast cancer research,      it is protected free speech. Bad taste and no class still is      protected speech.    <\/p>\n<p>      Furman A. Powell    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Catholic charities are being forced by the federal      government to go against their theological convictions and      provide support for birth control. In the meantime, the ACLU      courageously stands against local school board authority to      regulate classroom conduct and champions a teenager&#039;s right      to tacky fashion accessories. Is that Nero&#039;s fiddle I hear?    <\/p>\n<p>      Eric Schlene    <\/p>\n<p>      West Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Three things I would bet a significant amount of money on:      1. Whoever told the student he didn&#039;t want it in his school      has never lost a mother, or wife, to breast cancer. 2.      Administrators are not paying for the ensuing litigation. 3.      It probably wasn&#039;t a girl wearing the bracelet, which brings      up a whole other issue.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jim Derringer    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 To provide an environment conducive to learning, we ask our      schools to define and enforce codes of conduct, dress and      speech. When gray areas arise in the interpretation of these      codes, I think we should generally back the school      administrators and save our concerns for an annual review of      the codes.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jim Cook    <\/p>\n<p>      Delphi    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 If the kid is running around hollering, \"Look! It says      boobies!,\" then maybe you do something. Otherwise, take it      easy, everybody. In 1970, I was sent home from school for the      heinous crime of not having a belt on, while teachers were      measuring guys&#039; sideburns and girls&#039; skirts. Seems silly now.    <\/p>\n<p>      Rick Mummey    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 I think public schools have the responsibility to maintain      some standards of decency, norms and non-disruption of      education when it comes to clothing and language allowed in      school. But \"boobies?\" Do they actually listen to students in      the hallways?    <\/p>\n<p>      (Page 3 of 5)    <\/p>\n<p>      Noemi Ybarra    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 There is freedom of speech, and then there is good      judgment. We substitute words to convey what we wished we      could say all the time on TV. A school is where we send our      children to teach them civility and how to apply good      judgment. Apparently the ACLU doesn&#039;t get it.    <\/p>\n<p>      E. Lloyd Wells    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 I&#039;ve always believed that free speech demands good taste      supporting any point. By anyone&#039;s standards, this cannot be      considered in good taste. I support breast cancer awareness.      Loved ones dear to my heart have suffered from breast cancer,      but \"boobies\" lowers the taste standard. They&#039;re breasts, not      boobies.    <\/p>\n<p>      Tom Haynie    <\/p>\n<p>      Buffalo    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 I&#039;d like to know why they made those bracelets with those      words on them in the first place.    <\/p>\n<p>      Kevin Spires    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 If we didn&#039;t have government-run schools, this wouldn&#039;t be      a problem. Civil liberties would not be implicated because      this would be a private dispute over the terms of the      contract between the school and the student.    <\/p>\n<p>      Rob Keeney    <\/p>\n<p>      Flora    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 I think breast cancer is a serious and sensitive matter to      those who have had it. The bracelet borders on being      inappropriate for a student, or an adult for that matter.      There are many ways to show your support for breast cancer      awareness without making fun of it.    <\/p>\n<p>      Dennis Donoho    <\/p>\n<p>      Sedalia    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 I agree with the school&#039;s actions. It&#039;s time to use some      common sense here. If it&#039;s disruptive or profane, it      shouldn&#039;t be allowed in school. It is, however, time for      frivolous lawsuits to reap some consequences for those who      pursue them.    <\/p>\n<p>      Christopher D. Fullerton    <\/p>\n<p>      Reynolds    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Today we seem to be able to make a mountain out of the      smallest molehill. We all need to lighten up on the small      stuff and focus on solving our really big problems -- ones      that put our whole country at risk of collapse.    <\/p>\n<p>      Carl V. Covely Jr.    <\/p>\n<p>      Sheffield Township    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022<br \/>\n Most schools have rules against wearing clothing that      depicts alcohol, tobacco and gang symbols. If we allow      students to break this rule this time, then we might as well      allow them to wear whatever they want. There are other ways      to show support for breast cancer awareness than this      bracelet.    <\/p>\n<p>      (Page 4 of 5)    <\/p>\n<p>      Terry Smith    <\/p>\n<p>      Shadeland    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 In this case, as the message on the bracelet is      deliberately suggestive (albeit for a good cause), it is      appropriate for the school to disallow it. Allowing it would      open a floodgate of slogans that are nominally for good      causes but suggestive. This is middle school after all.    <\/p>\n<p>      Randy Myer    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 I believe the school has the right set and enforce rules.      Would it be all right for a student to yell out, \"I love      boobies,\" in school? Is that free speech, and should it be      allowed? I don&#039;t think so. There are much more important      issues to tackle than this.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jon Sexson    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 The ACLU really needs to be banned from the United States      of America. But, if the ACLU were in any other country on the      planet, it would have been dissolved 50 years ago as      political enemies against national security. Isn&#039;t this a      great country?    <\/p>\n<p>      Tom Anderson    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Clearly, not everything that is \"speech\" is protected by      the First Amendment, which reads, \"Congress shall make no law      ... abridging the freedom of speech.\" Twin Lakes School Corp.      is not Congress. I hope it re-reads the Constitution, then      sends the ACLU packing. What an excellent teaching      opportunity.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jon Held    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Neither the teachers, nor the students, really have free      speech in school. If this weren&#039;t a popular charity, would we      be having this discussion? A no boobies policy is every bit      as appropriate as banning \"God hates fags\" shirts. School is      not the place to make political or religious statements.    <\/p>\n<p>      Scott Schnarr    <\/p>\n<p>      Rossville    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 It is a matter of free speech, but the courts have time and      again given schools leeway to blunt this kind of thing. From      dress codes on T-shirts to censoring student newspapers, the      courts almost always side with the school. If I ran the      school, I would allow it, but then the only words the offend      me are the ones written to censor others.    <\/p>\n<p>      Mike Dudgeon    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 If the boy can&#039;t wear it because of his gender, then girls      can&#039;t wear it because of sexual preference. Sounds fair to      me.    <\/p>\n<p>      (Page 5 of 5)    <\/p>\n<p>      Ray Faber    <\/p>\n<p>      Crawfordsville    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 I know the money is going for breast cancer research, but      my grandson, who is a freshman in high school, wears one and      all his friends wear one, and they like it because it says,      \"I love boobies.\" To him, it doesn&#039;t have anything to do with      awareness of breast cancer. I wish he would not wear it      because I don&#039;t think he and others are wearing it to raise      awareness of breast cancer. Breast cancer is not a joke.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jean Wichterman    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 The school has a right to limit distractions to the      learning environment. An eighth-grade boy wearing anything      with \"boobies\" is a distraction. Life is very hard on people      who fight every injustice to this degree. Sadly, his parents      are missing an opportunity to teach him this valuable lesson.      Mom and dad are the problem here, not their son.    <\/p>\n<p>      Tim Delworth    <\/p>\n<p>      West Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 This is just another classic example of the ACLU backing      anything titillating (pun completely intended). It is a      statement promoting \"breast awareness\" as much as \"breast      cancer awareness,\" as a letter-writer penned last week. The      double entendre is completely intended and if the bracelet is      causing a distraction, then it should be removed. If      incessant giggling has not resulted from its presence, then      leave it alone -- they are giving more attention in a      negative way and the fight against breast cancer does not      need that, either.    <\/p>\n<p>      Carol Sikler    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 We are in the North Montgomery County School Corp. My      nephew had the same response. I think it&#039;s absolutely      ridiculous. I think that more important issues should be      addressed in today&#039;s school systems. 1. The dress attire for      the young ladies is atrocious. Mini skirts that you can      almost see their underwear. Tops cut so low to see cleavage.      Not to mention the young men who wear pants to their knees.      It&#039;s disgusting and vulgar. So what if a student wears a      bracelet that states, \"I (Heart) Boobies?\" Maybe his\/her      grandmother, mother, aunt, sister, cousin, or close friend is      a survivor! You don&#039;t know that. Or simply he\/she likes      boobies and wants to let everyone know that. At least he\/she      is not going around touching women&#039;s breasts! Really! Geesh!    <\/p>\n<p>      Julie Thompson    <\/p>\n<p>      New Richmond    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Fighting the battle for purity of language is a lost cause.      It would behoove schools to communicate in the students&#039;      language if they wish to impart information. Judging by the      state government&#039;s evisceration of our educational system, I      have no doubt they&#039;ll come up with a verbal version of the      chastity belt.    <\/p>\n<p>      Ed Posey    <\/p>\n<p>      West Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Even a blind squirrel (the ACLU) finds an acorn once in a      while.    <\/p>\n<p>      Jason Roehl    <\/p>\n<p>      Lafayette    <\/p>\n<p>      \u2022 Where are the parents of this child? The ACLU has gotten      out of hand. This type of thing is wasting court time and      taxpayer money. I am glad the school administrators have some      backbone. Too bad they have to parent this child as to      appropriate behavior in school.    <\/p>\n<p>      Dan Sommers    <\/p>\n<p>      West Lafayette    <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Go here to read the rest:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.jconline.com\/article\/20120212\/OPINION06\/202120313\/1122\" title=\"Rapid response: I (HEART) ... school rules vs. free speech\">Rapid response: I (HEART) ... school rules vs. free speech<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Question: The American Civil Liberties Union is backing a lawsuit filed against Twin Lakes School Corp., which asked a Roosevelt Middle School eighth-grader to remove a breast cancer awareness bracelet -- which read \"I (Heart) Boobies\" -- or turn it inside out. 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