{"id":68347,"date":"2016-06-16T17:48:56","date_gmt":"2016-06-16T21:48:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/2016-nootropics-survey-results-slate-star-codex\/"},"modified":"2016-06-16T17:48:56","modified_gmt":"2016-06-16T21:48:56","slug":"2016-nootropics-survey-results-slate-star-codex","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/nootropics\/2016-nootropics-survey-results-slate-star-codex\/","title":{"rendered":"2016 Nootropics Survey Results | Slate Star Codex"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    [Disclaimer: Nothing here should be taken to endorse    using illegal or dangerous substances. This was a quick    informal survey and you should not make any important health    decisions based on it. Talk to your doctor before trying    anything.]  <\/p>\n<p>    Nootropics are traditionally defined as substances that improve    mental function. In practice they usually refer to psychoactive    chemicals that are neither recreational drugs like cocaine and    heroin, nor officially-endorsed psychiatric drugs like Prozac    or Risperdal. Most are natural supplements, foreign medications    available in US without prescription, or experimental    compounds. They promise various benefits including clearer    thinking, better concentration, improved mood, et cetera. You    can read more about them here.  <\/p>\n<p>    Although a few have been tested formally in small trials, many    are known to work only based on anecdote and word of mouth.    There are some online communities like r\/nootropics where    people get together, discuss them, and compare results. Ive    hung out there for a while, and two years ago, in order to    satisfy my own curiosity about which of these were most worth    looking into, I got 150 people to answer     a short questionnaire about their experiences with    different drugs.  <\/p>\n<p>    Since then the field has changed and I wanted to get updated    data. This year 850 (!) people agreed to fill out my    questionnaire and rate various nootropics on a scale of 0  10     thanks again to everyone who completed the survey.  <\/p>\n<p>    Before the results themselves, a few comments.  <\/p>\n<p>    Last time around I complained about noisy results. This year    the sample size was five times larger and the results were less    noisy. Heres an example: the ratings for caffeine form a    beautiful bell curve:  <\/p>\n<p>    Even better, even though this survey was 80% new people, when    it asked the same questions as last years the results were    quite similar  they correlated at r = 0.76, about what youd    get from making students take the same test twice. Whatevers    producing these effects is pretty stable.  <\/p>\n<p>    A possible objection  since this survey didnt have placebo    control, might all the results be placebo? Yes. But one check    on this is that the different nootropics controlled against one    another. If we believe that picamilon (rated 3.7) is a placebo,    this suggests that PRL-8-53 (rated 5.6) does 19 percentage    points points better than placebo.  <\/p>\n<p>    But might this be confounded by lack of blinding? Yes. That is,    if companies have really hyped PRL-8-53, and it comes in    special packaging, and it just generally looks cooler    than picamilon, maybe that would give it a stronger placebo    effect.  <\/p>\n<p>    Against this hypothesis I can only plead big differences    between superficially similar drugs. For example, rhodiola and    ashwagandha are both about equally popular. Theyre both    usually sold by the same companies in the same packaging.    Theyre both classified as adaptogens by the people who    classify these sorts of things. But ashwagandha outperforms    rhodiola by 0.9 points, which in a paired-samples t-test is    significant at the p = 0.03 level. While you can always find    some kind of difference in advertising or word-of-mouth that    could conceivably have caused a placebo effect, there are at    least some reasons to think somethings going on here.  <\/p>\n<p>    Without further ado, heres what I found:  <\/p>\n<p>    Some very predictable winners: Adderall is a prescription drug    and probably doesnt even qualify as a nootropic; I included it    as a reference point, and it unsurprisingly did very well. LSD    microdosing is the practice of taking LSD at one-tenth or less    of the normal hallucinogenic dose; users say that it improves    creativity and happiness without any of the typical craziness.    Phenibut is a Russian anxiolytic drug of undenied effectiveness    which is sort of notorious for building tolerance and addiction    if used incorrectly. And modafinil is a prescription medication    for sleep issues which makes users more awake and energetic.    All of these are undeniably effective  but all are either    addictive, illegal without prescription, or both.  <\/p>\n<p>    Im more interested by a second tier of winners, including    tianeptine, Semax, and ashwagandha. Tianeptine is a French    antidepressant available (legally? kind of a gray area) without    prescription in the US; users say it both provides a quick fix    for depression and makes them happier and more energetic in    general. Semax is a Russian peptide supposed to improve mental    clarity and general well-being. Ashwagandha might seem weird to    include here since its all the way down at #15, but a lot of    the ones above it had low sample size or were things like    caffeine that everyone already knows about, and its high    position surprised me. Its an old Indian herb thats    supposed to treat anxiety.  <\/p>\n<p>    The biggest loser here is Alpha Brain, a proprietary supplement    sold by a flashy-looking company for $35 a bottle. Many people    including myself have previously been skeptical that they can    be doing much given how many random things they throw into one    little pill. But it looks like AlphaBrain underperformed even    the nootropics that I think of as likely placebo  things like    choline and DMAE. Its possible that survey respondents    penalized the company for commercializing what is otherwise a    pretty un-branded space, ranking it lower than they otherwise    might have to avoid endorsing that kind of thing.  <\/p>\n<p>    (I was surprised to see picamilon, a Russian modification of    the important neurotransmitter GABA, doing so badly. I thought    it was pretty well-respected in the community. As far as I can    tell, this one is just genuinely bad.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Finally, a note on addiction.  <\/p>\n<p>    Adderall, phenibut, and nicotine have all raised concern about    possible addictive potential. I wanted to learn a little bit    about peoples experiences here, so I asked a few questions    about how often people were taking things at what dose and    whether they got addicted or not.  <\/p>\n<p>    In retrospect, these were poorly phrased and didnt get me the    data I wanted. When people said they were taking Adderall every    day and got addicted, I didnt know whether they meant they    became addicted because they were using it every day, or that    they were using it every day because they were addicted. People    gave some really weird answers here and Im not sure how    seriously I can take them. Moving on anyway:  <\/p>\n<p>    A bit under 15% of users got addicted to Adderall. The    conventional wisdom says recreational users are more likely    to get addicted than people who take it for a psychiatric    condition with a doctors prescription. There was no sign of    this; people who took it legally and people who took it for    ADHD were actually much more likely to get addicted than    people who described themselves as illegal or recreational    users. In retrospect this isnt surprising; typical psychiatric    use is every day; typical recreational use is once in a while.  <\/p>\n<p>    Only 3% of users got addicted to phenibut. This came as a big    surprise to me given the caution most people show about this    substance. Both of the two people who reported major addictions    were using it daily at doses > 2g. The four people who    reported minor addictions were less consistent, and some people    gave confusing answers like that they had never used it more    than once a month but still considered themselves addicted.    People were more likely to report tolerance with more frequent    use; of those who used it monthly or less, only 6% developed    tolerance; of those who used it several times per month, 13%;    of those who used it several times per week, 18%; of those who    used it daily, 36%.  <\/p>\n<p>    Then there was nicotine. About 35% of users reported becoming    addicted, but this was heavily dependent upon variety of    nicotine. Among users who smoked normal tobacco cigarettes, 65%    reported addiction. Among those who smoked e-cigarettes, only    25% reported addiction (and again, since theres no time data,    its possible these people switched to e-cigarettes    because they were addicted and not vice versa). Among    users of nicotine gum and lozenges, only 7% reported addiction,    and only 1% reported major addiction. Although cigarettes are a    known gigantic health\/addiction risk, the nootropic communitys    use of isolated nicotine as a stimulant seems from this survey    (subject to the above caveat) to be comparatively but not    completely safe.  <\/p>\n<p>    I asked people to name their favorite nootropic not on    the list. The three most popular answers were ALCAR,    pramiracetam, and Ritalin. ALCAR and pramiracetam were on last    years survey and ended up around the middle. Ritalin is no    doubt very effective in much the same way Adderall is very    effective  and equally illegal without a prescription.  <\/p>\n<p>    People also gave their personal stacks and their comments; you    can find them in the raw data (.xlsx,    .csv)    or the fixed-up data (.csv, notes). If    you find anything else interesting in there, please post it in    the comments here and Ill add a link to it in this post.  <\/p>\n<p>    EDIT: Jacobian     adjusts for user bias  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>More:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/slatestarcodex.com\/2016\/03\/01\/2016-nootropics-survey-results\/\" title=\"2016 Nootropics Survey Results | Slate Star Codex\">2016 Nootropics Survey Results | Slate Star Codex<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> [Disclaimer: Nothing here should be taken to endorse using illegal or dangerous substances. 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