{"id":68116,"date":"2016-06-10T12:49:59","date_gmt":"2016-06-10T16:49:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/what-is-a-victimless-crime-with-pictures-wisegeek-3\/"},"modified":"2016-06-10T12:49:59","modified_gmt":"2016-06-10T16:49:59","slug":"what-is-a-victimless-crime-with-pictures-wisegeek-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/victimless-crimes\/what-is-a-victimless-crime-with-pictures-wisegeek-3\/","title":{"rendered":"What is a Victimless Crime? (with pictures) &#8211; wiseGEEK"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>alibay19        Post 10                                                        <\/p>\n<p>                If bigamy, gambling, ticket scalping, riding bike                without a helmet and if possible having sexual                intercourse without marrying each other is a                victimless crime, how can all this be explained?              <\/p>\n<p>                Although it is believed that religion is the opium                of the masses, I still believe that sentencing                prostitutes and drug users is a very good idea.              <\/p>\n<p>                What I don't understand is how the prosecutor has                standing in victimless crimes regarding the                doctrine of Corpus delicti.              <\/p>\n<p>                If the doctrine of Corpus delecti requires (rightly                IMO) that \"1) The occurrence of the specific                injury; and 2) some intentional, knowing act as the                source of the injury.\", then how does the                prosecutor establish standing without a plausible                victim.              <\/p>\n<p>                Regarding Donald Bales assertions, that reasoning                could be used to establish an all-pervasive                totalitarian state that dictates the diets of all                citizens, i.e., if the government can tell citizens                what drugs they can use on the grounds that some                drugs are injurious to public health, then they                should also be able to tell everyone how much salt,                fat, sugar etc each person is permitted to eat.                Eating too much ice cream should carry an equal or                greater sentence than smoking pot, because ice                cream is quite demonstrably worse for one's health.              <\/p>\n<p>                How does a court acquire jurisdiction without an                injury? There is case after case stating that an                injury is a requirement for standing or corpus                delicti.              <\/p>\n<p>                Great article\/definition Michael!              <\/p>\n<p>                While I don't smoke marijuana\/hemp, I just don't                see (Constitutionally) how government can outlaw a                plant.              <\/p>\n<p>                It's not manufactured like other drugs; it's grown                then dried (as far as I know). If the government                just decriminalized this one \"drug\", not only would                it significantly reduce prison population and take                pressure off of the judicial system, but it could                again be manufactured for rope, clothes, fuel,                paper, etc. (an estimated 50,000 products!) Of                course the one manufactured is slightly different                from the one smoked (lower THC?) but law                enforcement can't readily tell the difference so                it's all outlawed.              <\/p>\n<p>                @mani65ng and Diwiyana: A victim is a person who is                directly injured, destroyed, sacrificed, harmed,                duped, mistreated, or oppressed by              <\/p>\n<p>              @anon32602: Again you aren't directly harmed by the              people who use the ER; you are directly harmed by an              agent (the government). It is the government that              makes you a victim via unconstitutional agencies,              laws, and statutes. Health care was better before the              government got involved and it's possible for it to              be again, but not probable because of all the sheeple              who don't understand the Constitution, government's              role, economics, etc.            <\/p>\n<p>                Now that emergency care in ER's and admission to                hospital is also mandated, behaviors that would                seem to impact only the individual have to be                viewed in a somewhat different way. Granted that                alcohol or drug use or smoking do not harm me                directly, still I will be forced to pay for the                consequences of these personal acts but my tax                dollars and by the increase in my health insurance                premiums. So, in a sense, I become the victim (am                harmed) by the acts of other individuals. A                government that undertakes to provide cradle to                grave care will inevitably be led to regulate the                behavior of individuals who cause increased costs.              <\/p>\n<p>                If the government doesn't ask for it, citizens who              <\/p>\n<p>              Some think that there should never be any bad              consequences for bad behavior. That conflicts with              the laws of nature-and nature will win every time.            <\/p>\n<p>              Donald W. Bales            <\/p>\n<p>                Prostitution unless spread by a criminal syndicate                should not be criminalized but is in most all US                states because we are a theocracy, not a democracy                and have been controlled by religious tenets in                blatant violation of our constitution (and it                matters *not* that the silly word \"God\" appears in                our bill of rights) as the already established                theocracy demanded it: we are no different in                *this* respect from Islamic regimes as in all                theocracies, the last word is always the domain of                a religious tyrant( priest rabbi. Imam, pastor-you                name the miscreant- it matters little because these                monsters are the criminals who enslave us                insidiously and then abuse us one way or another.                Our schools zero tolerance policy              <\/p>\n<p>            criminalize an 81 Mgs aspirin exactly like a reefer. In            reality neither is but academic stupidity certainly is            and the school boards that dictate that sort of policy            should be channeled to a maximum security prison as a            temporary holding facility until we reopen Alcatraz            where all prisoners will be put to hard labor for life,            not less: control freaks are dictators who should not            be allowed the freedom of criminalizing medicines.            Control freaks are criminals who manage to pass a rule            that paralyzes others.          <\/p>\n<p>                Good definition! Of course, in arguments over                whether or not a particular law should be removed                from the books, people disagree about which crimes                really are victimless. Some feminists, for example,                argue that the prostitute actually is the victim of                prostitution, even though she seems to be agreeing                to the sex-for-money contract of her own free will.                She presumably wouldn't do it if she had other                options. I don't know how many actual prostitutes                have been surveyed for their opinions on the topic,                though. Lots of convicted criminals also like to                argue that their victims really wanted to be                victims and so weren't truly victims anyway.              <\/p>\n<p>                How are there no victims in victimless crimes?              <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more from the original source:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.wisegeek.com\/what-is-a-victimless-crime.htm\" title=\"What is a Victimless Crime? (with pictures) - wiseGEEK\">What is a Victimless Crime? 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