{"id":65736,"date":"2015-04-13T11:42:29","date_gmt":"2015-04-13T15:42:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/volokh-conspiracy-paul-krugman-claims-there-basically-arent-any-libertarians\/"},"modified":"2015-04-13T11:42:29","modified_gmt":"2015-04-13T15:42:29","slug":"volokh-conspiracy-paul-krugman-claims-there-basically-arent-any-libertarians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/libertarianism\/volokh-conspiracy-paul-krugman-claims-there-basically-arent-any-libertarians\/","title":{"rendered":"Volokh Conspiracy: Paul Krugman claims there basically arent any libertarians"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    In a     recent post , famed economist Paul Krugman claims that    there basically arent any libertarians out there because    public opinion breaks down neatly along a liberal-conservative    spectrum where almost everyone who favors government    intervention in the economy is a social liberal and almost    everyone who is skeptical of it is a social conservative. But    Krugman cites no data to support his conclusion. And, in fact,    extensive survey data contradicts it.  <\/p>\n<p>    The relevant evidence has been catalogued by     David Boaz, polling guru     Nate Silver (who is far from being a libertarian himself),    and economist     Bryan Caplan. Depending on what measures you use, anywhere    from     about 10% to as many as     44 percent of Americans hold generally libertarian views in    the sense that they favor strict limits on government power in    both the economic and social spheres. I believe the lower    estimates are more credible than the higher ones. But even the    former are still a substantial fraction of the population.  <\/p>\n<p>    Most of these people arent as consistent and thoroughgoing in    their views as libertarian intellectuals are. But the same can    be said of most conservatives and liberals in the general    public relative to intellectual advocates of those viewpoints.    At least within the Republican Party (which is a major focus of    Krugmans post), the percentage of libertarians is rapidly    increasing; younger Republicans     are much more libertarian on social issues than their elders,    while still being skeptical of government intervention in the    economy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Krugman also claims that almost no one holds views that are the    opposite of libertarianism: combining social conservatism with    support for extensive government intervention in the economy    (he calls such people hardhats, though public opinion    researchers more commonly call them populists). This too is    clearly false. As Boaz and Caplan note, surveys show a    substantial number of people who fall into that category. In    recent years, Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum both ran    campaigns for the GOP presidential nomination on such a    platform, and both attracted substantial support. Perhaps even    more telling, George W. Bushs policies as president included a    combination of social conservatism and the    biggest new welfare state program in some forty years, as    well as a major    expansion of federal government involvement in education.    Bush and his advisers clearly believed there were enough    hardhats out there to make this program politically viable.    In Europe, the combination of social conservatism and economic    interventionism is even more common than in the US, as witness    the recent resurgence of parties such as Frances    National Front, which combine right-wing nationalism with    support for a large welfare state. As a libertarian myself,    Im no fan of hardhat\/populist ideologies. But I cant deny    that there are large numbers of people who support them.  <\/p>\n<p>    Admittedly, Krugmans claim might be right if we interpret his    framework literally. He defines libertarians as people who    combine social liberalism with the view that there should be    no social insurance. As David Boaz notes in his critique, the    latter is an extreme definition that would exclude such    prominent libertarian thinkers as Milton Friedman and F.A.    Hayek (both of whom were willing to accept a strictly limited    welfare state); it would also rule out the vast majority of    those people who hold roughly libertarian views in the general    population. But if Krugman means that definition literally, it    would also prove there are no conservatives either. After all,    very few people who consider themselves to be conservatives    favor the complete abolition of the welfare state, as opposed    to its restriction to levels smaller than that favored by the    left. In the 2012 election, the GOP even ran on     a platform attacking Obama for supposedly cutting Medicare too    much.  <\/p>\n<p>    Its also possible to try to justify Krugmans claim by arguing    that most of those people who hold seemingly libertarian views    havent thought carefully about their implications and are not    completely consistent in their beliefs. This is likely true.    But it is also true of most conservatives and liberals.        Political ignorance and irrationality are very common across    the political spectrum and only a small minority of voters    think carefully about their views and make a systematic attempt    at consistency. Libertarian-leaning voters are not an exception    to this trend. But it is worth noting that, controlling for    other variables, increasing political knowledge tends to make    people more libertarian in their views than they would be    otherwise.  <\/p>\n<p>    Finally, Krugman is wrong to suggest that the difference    between supporters and opponents of more extensive government    intervention in the economy is solely or even primarily about    social insurance that breaks down traditional structures of    authority. In many places, early expansions of government    intervention in the economy were in part intended to reinforce    rather than break down traditional structures of    authority, which is one reason why it was often pioneered    by right-wingers like     Otto von Bismarck. More recently, there are have been many    forms of government intervention that tend to benefit the    relatively affluent and and well-connected interest groups at    the expense of the poor. If you dont want to take my word for    it, read Krugmans own recent columns on     zoning and     farm subsidies.  <\/p>\n<p>    In his critique of Krugmans post, Bryan Caplan suggests that    Krugmans neglect of readily available evidence in this case    gives us reason to doubt his reliability more generally. I    dont go quite that far. As I see it, this is yet another case    where a pundit gets into trouble by pontificating on issues    outside their expertise.  <\/p>\n<p>    Even if you are a brilliant Nobel Prize-winning economist like    Krugman, its easy to go wrong in commenting on a subject you    may not have much knowledge about. Moreover, in dealing with    such issues, we are more likely to     act like political fans and default to simplistic    frameworks that make it easy to feel good about our own views,    while dismissing those of the opposition.  <\/p>\n<p>    In this case, postulating a simplistic one-dimensional    distribution of political opinion enables Krugman to claim that    virtually all of the people who oppose his views on government    intervention in the economy do not, in reality, love liberty,    and also to ignore the fact that many people who endorse a    large welfare state also have illiberal social views. These    assumptions make it easy to divide the world into good guys who    want to break down traditional forms of authority and bad    guys who want to maintain them. But, however comforting it    might be, this approach fails to capture the true distribution    of political opinion.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>View original post here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.washingtonpost.com\/c\/34656\/f\/636635\/s\/4559c0f9\/sc\/24\/l\/0L0Swashingtonpost0N0Cnews0Cvolokh0Econspiracy0Cwp0C20A150C0A40C130Cpaul0Ekrugman0Etries0Eto0Eprove0Ethere0Eare0Eno0Elibertarians0C0Dwprss0Frss0Inational\/story01.htm\/RK=0\/RS=3CMu1XrrpGS.Tv1twqjH.MgOVd0-\" title=\"Volokh Conspiracy: Paul Krugman claims there basically arent any libertarians\">Volokh Conspiracy: Paul Krugman claims there basically arent any libertarians<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> In a recent post , famed economist Paul Krugman claims that there basically arent any libertarians out there because public opinion breaks down neatly along a liberal-conservative spectrum where almost everyone who favors government intervention in the economy is a social liberal and almost everyone who is skeptical of it is a social conservative. But Krugman cites no data to support his conclusion. 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