{"id":63166,"date":"2012-11-14T09:42:28","date_gmt":"2012-11-14T09:42:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.designerchildren.com\/does-keir-starmer-see-the-problem-with-poppy-burners\/"},"modified":"2012-11-14T09:42:28","modified_gmt":"2012-11-14T09:42:28","slug":"does-keir-starmer-see-the-problem-with-poppy-burners","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/free-speech\/does-keir-starmer-see-the-problem-with-poppy-burners\/","title":{"rendered":"Does Keir Starmer see the problem with poppy burners?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>     A    panel discussion in London yesterday did not offer much hope    that prosecutors and politicians will defend free speech    online. Paul Bernal reports  <\/p>\n<p>    The arrest of a young man on Remembrance Sunday, apparently    forposting a pictureof a burning poppy,    is the latest case of offensive online speech being pursued    by the law.So yesterdays panel discussion on the subject    at the Internet Service Providers Association (ISPA) annual    could not have been better timed.  <\/p>\n<p>    There was an excellent range of speakers on the panel: Keir    Starmer QC, the Director of Public Prosecutions, Helen Goodman    MP, Labours Shadow Culture Minister, Facebooks Director of    Policy Simon Milner, and Indexs CEO Kirsty Hughes. A lot of    ground was covered  but the impression left at the end of the    session was one that should leave advocates of freedom of    speech more than a little trepidation.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dan Tench, the chair, began by outlining the variety of    potential offences  from the increasingly infamous Section 127    of theCommunications Act 2003to the lesser    knownMalicious Communications Act 1988, the act    under which the young man was arrested for his poppy burning    picture on Sunday. It was, and is, a somewhat depressing and    confusing list of often broadly worded laws: even lawyers    struggle with it, so the difficulties of the average Twitter or    Facebook user  or even the average police officer  can have    in understanding it are hard to overstate. And the law really    matters: Keir Starmer was clear (and correct) throughout that    the CPSs job is to prosecute in accordance with this law.    Simon Milner was similarly direct: Facebooks policy is to obey    the law. Facebook may be an American corporation, but theyll    follow local laws when dealing with speech: in Germany, for    example, laws on Holocaust denial, in the UK, all the    multi-faceted laws on offensive speech.  <\/p>\n<p>    Having said that, the one piece of potentially good news to    emerge from the panel was that Keir Starmer announced that his    office would be producing interim guidelines covering offensive    speech online in the next few weeks. The contents of those    guidelines will be interesting  Starmer seemed to suggest that    they would outline how the law should apply, and how public    interest in a prosecution would be determined. There would not,    and indeed should not, be a shift in public policy as a result     though for differing reasons different members of both the    panel and the audience would probably like to see that.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thats where the worry for advocates of free speech should come    in. Kirsty Hughes spoke eloquently about the key problems with    our current approach, about how what we do in the UK is watched    very carefully by those in more repressive regimes and used to    justify their oppression, about how there seems to be a growing    sense of enforcing some sort of orthodoxy, and about how    people seem to think they have a right not to be offended. But    Starmer, to an extent, didnt seem to acknowledge that there    might be a problem  instead he talked of the difficulty of    dealing with delicate issues like the offensive remarks    concerning the death of April Jones  while Helen Goodman MPs    approach seemed to be that we hadnt gone nearly far enough in    controlling speech.  <\/p>\n<p>    That was the most depressing part of the panel. Though she had    just returned from theInternet Governance Forumin Baku, and    claimed to have been moved by and understood the crucial role    played by freedom of speech on the internet in the struggles    against oppression in Egypt and Azerbaijan, she didnt seem to    see any connection at all between the control of speech in the    UK with the control of speech elsewhere. Freedom of speech, it    seemed, was important in other places, but not in the UK.    Indeed, the time she showed most emotion was her disappointment    to discover that a charge of harassment required a pattern of    behaviour, rather than just a single incident.  <\/p>\n<p>    If the panel is any indication, we cant expect a great    improvement in the treatment of offensive speech online  and    incidents like the current poppy-burning story can only be    expected to recur. I hope that isnt the case  just as I hope    that politicians like Helen Goodman MP can be persuaded to see    the importance of freedom of speech in practice as well as in    principle. This subject will keep on raising its head until    something changes  and free speech advocates should keep on    making sure that it does.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dr Paul Bernal is lecturer in IT, IP and media law at the    University of East Anglia. He tweets from@paulbernalUK  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>Here is the original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.indexoncensorship.org\/2012\/11\/does-keir-starmer-see-the-problem-with-poppy-burners\/\" title=\"Does Keir Starmer see the problem with poppy burners?\">Does Keir Starmer see the problem with poppy burners?<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> A panel discussion in London yesterday did not offer much hope that prosecutors and politicians will defend free speech online. Paul Bernal reports The arrest of a young man on Remembrance Sunday, apparently forposting a pictureof a burning poppy, is the latest case of offensive online speech being pursued by the law.So yesterdays panel discussion on the subject at the Internet Service Providers Association (ISPA) annual could not have been better timed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/free-speech\/does-keir-starmer-see-the-problem-with-poppy-burners\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[162384],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-63166","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-free-speech"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/63166"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=63166"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/63166\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=63166"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=63166"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=63166"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}