{"id":57344,"date":"2015-02-16T03:47:43","date_gmt":"2015-02-16T08:47:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/volokh-conspiracy-on-orin-kerr-and-the-constitution-across-borders\/"},"modified":"2015-02-16T03:47:43","modified_gmt":"2015-02-16T08:47:43","slug":"volokh-conspiracy-on-orin-kerr-and-the-constitution-across-borders","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/volokh-conspiracy-on-orin-kerr-and-the-constitution-across-borders\/","title":{"rendered":"Volokh Conspiracy: On Orin Kerr and the Constitution across borders"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    As faithful readers of the VC know, Orin Kerr and I occasionally disagreeabout questions of    Internet law, an area where our interests overlap    considerably. But Orins recently-published paper on The    Fourth Amendment and the Global Internet is a must-read    - authoritative and comprehensive, a terrific resource    for anyone thinking seriously aboutwhat Orin calls the    clash between the territorial Fourth Amendment and the global    Internet  application of 4th Amednment doctrine to Internet    communications, and the many difficulties of adapt[ing] to the    reality of a global network in which suspects, victims, and    evidence might be located anywhere. Legal scholarship at    its best.  <\/p>\n<p>    He covers a lot of ground, starting with the Supreme Courts    decision inUnited States v. Verdugo-Urquidez,    which held that a person must have sufficient voluntary    connections to the United States  either lawful presence in    the United States at the time of the search or some substantial    connection such as citizenship or lawful residency  to enjoy    the protection of the Fourth Amendmentat all. That    is, some people in the world have FourthAmendment    rights, and many others do not, which leads him to ask and    analyze three questions: how should online contacts with    the United States factor into whether aperson has Fourth    Amendment rights? Second, how does the Fourth    Amendmentapply when the government does not know if a    target has sufficient contactsto establish Fourth    Amendment rights? And third, how does the FourthAmendment    apply when the government monitors communications    betweenthose who lack Fourth Amendment rights and others    who have those rights?  <\/p>\n<p>    Next, he asks a series of questions assuming that the subject    of monitoringhasFourth Amendment rights:    how does the subjects location (or the location of the data)    affect the analysis of whether the search was unreasonable    within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment?  <\/p>\n<p>    Its a rich mine of interesting and important law. But    for me, the really interesting question is the one    heexpressly) sets aside: is the Verdugo-Urquidez    rule itself, and the strict territorial demarcations on which    it is based, the right one for the 21st century Constitution?    Orin takes the Verdugo rule as a given; as he notes, he    accepts the basic principles of existing doctrine and    considers how courts should apply those principles in light of    the unprecedented globalism of todays Internet. Fair    enough. But why dont we extend Fourth Amendment    rights to foreigners outside of our borders? The Fourth    Amendment, of course, only prohibits unreasonable searches    and seizures  why should the government be empowered to behave    unreasonably towards anyone, with or without a citizenship or    residency or locational connection to the United States? Why    should the Constitution not prohibit US agents from searching    the contents of Angela Merkels e-mail inbox?  <\/p>\n<p>    Its a question that comes up frequently in Internet law, in    connection with other constitutional rights. it was, for    instance, very much     central to the debates about SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) a    few years ago. The animating principle behind SOPA     which targeted foreign infringing websites for elimination    through the Domain Name System  was one that was premised on    the notion that the operators of foreign infringing websites    have no due process rights that we have to recognize (because,    like the 4th Amendment, the 5th Amendment due process    guarantees have a territorial component), so we can summarily    remove their websites from the global Internet without    compunction, in a manner that would be unconstitutional if    applied to US citizens. It struck me as a flawed view of    the world then, and it does again in reading Orins article.  <\/p>\n<p>      David G. Post is a Sr. Fellow at the New America Foundation's      Open Technology Institute. He taught intellectual      property\/Internet law at Georgetown and Temple Universities,      and is the author of In Search of Jefferson's Moose: Notes on      the State of Cyberspace. Views expressed are his own and      should not be attributed to his affiliated institutions.    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.washingtonpost.com\/c\/34656\/f\/636635\/s\/436bb20c\/sc\/46\/l\/0L0Swashingtonpost0N0Con0Eorin0Ekerr0Eand0Ethe0Econstitution0Eacross0Eborders0C20A150C0A20C150C0Abfab96d0Ea8d10E4ac40E873f0Ee54ebfcd91f90Istory0Bhtml0Dwprss0Frss0Inational\/story01.htm\/RK=0\/RS=8gX6LXWL1Cfo0ack0Lp8IQTaicM-\" title=\"Volokh Conspiracy: On Orin Kerr and the Constitution across borders\">Volokh Conspiracy: On Orin Kerr and the Constitution across borders<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> As faithful readers of the VC know, Orin Kerr and I occasionally disagreeabout questions of Internet law, an area where our interests overlap considerably. But Orins recently-published paper on The Fourth Amendment and the Global Internet is a must-read - authoritative and comprehensive, a terrific resource for anyone thinking seriously aboutwhat Orin calls the clash between the territorial Fourth Amendment and the global Internet application of 4th Amednment doctrine to Internet communications, and the many difficulties of adapt[ing] to the reality of a global network in which suspects, victims, and evidence might be located anywhere.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/volokh-conspiracy-on-orin-kerr-and-the-constitution-across-borders\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94879],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-57344","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fourth-amendment"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/57344"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=57344"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/57344\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=57344"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=57344"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=57344"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}