{"id":53873,"date":"2015-01-22T23:51:53","date_gmt":"2015-01-23T04:51:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/argument-analysis-what-exactly-is-a-routine-traffic-stop-and-should-a-suspicionless-dog-sniff-be-part-of-it\/"},"modified":"2015-01-22T23:51:53","modified_gmt":"2015-01-23T04:51:53","slug":"argument-analysis-what-exactly-is-a-routine-traffic-stop-and-should-a-suspicionless-dog-sniff-be-part-of-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/argument-analysis-what-exactly-is-a-routine-traffic-stop-and-should-a-suspicionless-dog-sniff-be-part-of-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Argument analysis: What exactly is a routine traffic stop, and should a suspicionless dog sniff be part of it?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    License, registration, and dog sniff, please? After a    somewhat frustrating argument Wednesday morning, Justice Elena    Kagan finally expressed concern about the possibility that the    federal governments position in     Rodriguez v. United States would lead to . . . 40    minutes of free time for police officers to investigate any    crimes that they want. Assistant to the Solicitor General    Ginger Anders responded that I dont think thats how we    envision things, but she then suggested that only the    duration of a routine traffic stop  under the circumstances    defines the Fourth Amendments reasonable limit. This did not    answer the question that Justice Anthony Kennedy asked early    on: how do you define the traffic stop? But even if the    government loses, the Justices expressed a fair amount of    indecision over exactly what the rule should be, and they    appeared less than satisfied with the arguments offered by    Rodriguezs attorney, Shannon OConnor  the First Assistant    Federal Public Defender for the District of Nebraska.  <\/p>\n<p>    The facts, the question, and a few points of    clarity  <\/p>\n<p>    As previewed yesterday, the issue    before the Court involves a valid traffic stop for swerving    over the highway shoulder line, in which the officer prolonged    the stop for seven to eight minutes after he had completed    writing a warning, in order to conduct a dog sniff of    Rodriguezs car after a back-up officer arrived. The entire    traffic stop lasted about thirty minutes, at which point the    dog alerted and provided probable cause for further search    (which revealed methamphetamine). The Eighth Circuit did not    question the lower courts finding that there was no    reasonable suspicion for the dog-sniff detention, but it    ruled that a de minimis delay to conduct a    dog sniff is okay. Since the Courts 2005 ruling in    Caballes that a dog sniff conducted simultaneously    with a traffic stop did not violate the Fourth Amendment, lower    state and federal courts have divided on the appropriate    constitutional standards as well as their application when a    sniff (or other investigation) extends the time of a stop.  <\/p>\n<p>    A few things seemed clear from Wednesdays argument. First, a    dog sniff of a car stopped for a traffic violation is    extraneous to the purpose of  that is, not an ordinary    incident of  a traffic violation stop. Justice Samuel Alito    questioned this and accurately noted that the Court has    previously held that questions which seem unrelated to the    mission of the traffic stop have been routinely upheld,    starting with the standard opening license and registration,    please and extending, as in Rodriguezs case, to questions    about where the driver and the passenger were going and why.    Thus, he repeatedly asked, why are those questions part of the    mission and the dog sniff is not? But Anders wisely conceded    that she was not arguing that a dog sniff should be considered    an ordinary incident of most traffic stops. Although no one    mentioned Indianapolis v. Edmond, the Courts 2000    decision ruling that routine drug checkpoints employing dog    sniffs without suspicion violates the Fourth Amendment, the    Justices did not seem ready to accept the routine addition of    dog sniffs to valid traffic stops.  <\/p>\n<p>    (Incidentally, repeated points of some humor were moments in    which Justices referred to having been stopped themselves by    the police. Chief Justice John Roberts began this thread by    commenting during OConnors argument(to laughter) that    people have told me what happens when youre stopped.    Justice Sonia Sotomayor later began Anders argument by    saying and Chief, Ive been stopped, to which Anders quickly    responded, so have I. The underlying point being that perhaps    one of the most shared experiences in our national culture is    being stopped by the police while driving. Or as Justice    Stephen Breyer put it, our experience on stops comes from,    unfortunately, being the stoppee.)  <\/p>\n<p>    A second point that appears clear from yesterdays argument is    that the Court will not use this case to reconsider    Caballes and examine whether a dog sniff should count    as a Fourth Amendment search. Justice Sotomayor appeared to    raise this fundamental question briefly  is that really    what the Fourth Amendment should permit?  but then quickly    suggested that the Court should cabin it to    Caballess simultaneous with writing the ticket    holding. Thus while the Caballes holding appears to be    in some tension with the constitutional theory of search that    Justice Antonin Scalia, among others, has recently advanced,    this case will not be used as an occasion to discuss it in the    text of the opinion, although it may surface in footnotes or    separate opinions.  <\/p>\n<p>    The basic question: Is suspicionless detention for a    dog sniff allowed?  <\/p>\n<p>    Various Justices  the Chief Justice and Justices Scalia Kagan    in particular  appeared to keep driving the case to its basic    question: may the police continue to detain someone, without at    least reasonable suspicion, when the Fourth Amendment    justification for the stop (that is, the traffic violation) has    ended? Toward the end of the argument, Justice Kagan bluntly    stated that if the government is arguing that    Caballes gives you  extra leeway to detain people .    I think thats just not right. Chief Justice Roberts appeared    to agree, rhetorically asking a bit earlier (generating    laughter) whether [i]ts only a violation of the Fourth    Amendment for two minutes, right? And Justice Scalia later    interjected, apparently along the same rhetorical line, it can    prolong it a little bit.  <\/p>\n<p>    At one point, Justice Breyer began a question for Anders with    the announcement that I have a great idea. Reading this, I    initially imagined everyone was groaning  but then Justice    Breyers idea appeared to catch on with the rest of the Court    (perhaps for want of any other more specific guidance). Justice    Breyer appeared to suggest that the Court simply stick to what    it has said in past cases: that a stop cannot last longer than    is necessary to effectuate the purpose of the stop, or that a    stop cannot be unnecessarily prolonged. He explained that    these were not new ideas  what an original idea I had, he    noted with irony  and that after we cite these two cases ,    [we] reverse. QED, goodbye. And then, as Justice Ruth Bader    Ginsburg repeatedly noted, the issue whether there actually may    have been reasonable suspicion about narcotics on the facts of    this case, a point not addressed by the court of appeals, would    be open on remand. Although OConnor urged the Court to decide    that question itself for judicial economy, no Justice seemed    likely to agree.  <\/p>\n<p>    One final point, about Terry v. Ohio  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the rest here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.scotusblog.com\/2015\/01\/224253\" title=\"Argument analysis: What exactly is a routine traffic stop, and should a suspicionless dog sniff be part of it?\">Argument analysis: What exactly is a routine traffic stop, and should a suspicionless dog sniff be part of it?<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> License, registration, and dog sniff, please? After a somewhat frustrating argument Wednesday morning, Justice Elena Kagan finally expressed concern about the possibility that the federal governments position in Rodriguez v <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/argument-analysis-what-exactly-is-a-routine-traffic-stop-and-should-a-suspicionless-dog-sniff-be-part-of-it\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94879],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-53873","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fourth-amendment"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53873"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=53873"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53873\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=53873"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=53873"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=53873"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}