{"id":46763,"date":"2014-11-25T15:51:07","date_gmt":"2014-11-25T20:51:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/drawing-a-line-between-therapy-and-threats-in-plain-english\/"},"modified":"2014-11-25T15:51:07","modified_gmt":"2014-11-25T20:51:07","slug":"drawing-a-line-between-therapy-and-threats-in-plain-english","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/drawing-a-line-between-therapy-and-threats-in-plain-english\/","title":{"rendered":"Drawing a line between therapy and threats: In Plain English"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      Posted Mon, November 24th, 2014 3:31 pm by Amy Howe    <\/p>\n<p>        Protesting at the funeral of a fallen soldier.     Lying about your military record. Violent    video games for children.     Making videos about dogfighting. In the past few years, the    Supreme Court has held that the First Amendment protects all of    these forms of expression, even when very unpopular or    offensive. Next week the Justices will hear oral arguments to    determine whether Anthony Eloniss Facebook posts, which left    his ex-wife extremely scared and an FBI agent worried about    her familys safety, are entitled to the same kind of    protection. Lets talk about     Elonis v. United States in Plain English.  <\/p>\n<p>    Eloniss legal troubles date back to 2010, when his wife left    him, taking their two young children with her. He began to post    lyrics from popular songs on Facebook, and he soon moved on to    post his own, sometimes violent, rap lyrics. As part of his    posts, Elonis included disclaimers about how his lyrics were    merely fictitious, and that he was just exercising his    constitutional right to freedom of speech. He also sometimes    included links to     the Wikipedia entry on the First Amendment and even the    text of the First    Amendment itself.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the fall of 2010, Eloniss Facebook posts included several    that discussed harming his ex-wife. One post was a take-off on    a comedy routine available on YouTube:    Elonis asked his Facebook friends whether they knew that it was    illegal for him to say that he wanted to kill his ex-wife, and    he added that it would be incredibly illegal to suggest that    someone could kill his ex-wife by firing a mortar launcher from    the cornfield behind her house. A day later, Elonis put up a    post about shooting a kindergarten class.  <\/p>\n<p>    These posts earned Elonis a visit from an FBI agent. After the    visit, he posted about that encounter too, suggesting in rap    lyrics that he had strapped a bomb to his body and would have    detonated it if he had been arrested. This post was apparently    the last straw for the FBI: a few weeks later, Elonis was    arrested and charged with violating 18 U.S.C.  875(c), which    makes it a crime to communicate threats in interstate commerce     for example, over the Internet.  <\/p>\n<p>    Elonis claimed that the charges against him should be dismissed    because you can only violate the law if you intend    tothreaten someone. And he didnt have any plans to    threaten his ex-wife, the FBI agent, or anyone else: his rap    lyrics and venting about his problems on Facebook just made    him feel better. But if he can be convicted without any intent    to threaten anyone, he added, that would violate the First    Amendment. A federal trial court rejected both of his    arguments. Instead, it instructed the jury, it could find    Elonis guilty if the average person, looking at a statement    objectively, would believe that it was intended to be a threat.    The jury convicted Elonis, and he was sentenced to nearly four    years in prison.  <\/p>\n<p>    As Elonis emphasized in his Facebook posts, the First Amendment    protects a right to free speech. But that right is not    unlimited; the classic example is that you cant shout Fire!    in a crowded movie theater when there is actually no fire,    because the resulting chaos could lead to injuries or even    death. The Supreme Court has held that the First Amendment also    does not protect true threats, but it has not specifically    said how courts should decide what is (or is not) a true    threat. This case could give it that opportunity.  <\/p>\n<p>    In his briefs at the Supreme Court, Elonis argues that a    threat by its very nature requires an intent to cause fear.    Because the whole point of a crime, he says, is that the    defendant meant to do something wrong, the Court has    interpreted criminal laws as requiring a wrongful intent even    when they did not explicitly do so. Making it a crime to    threaten someone even if you didnt intend tothreaten    them, he contends, would cause people not to speak at all,    because they would be worried about whether they could go to    jail based on a jurys possible misinterpretation of their    comments. This is particularly true, he concludes, when you are    talking about alleged threats on social media and email, where    nuance and tone matter so much and its so easy to misconstrue    what someone says.  <\/p>\n<p>    The federal government counters that, as the trial court in    this case instructed the jury, courts should determine whether    something is a true threat by looking at whether an average    person would interpret the statement as reflecting a serious    intent to harm someone. The government emphasizes that courts    and juries can and should look at the context in which the    alleged threat was made, and at the reactions of the people who    heard the alleged threat, but they should not consider whether    the defendant himself actually intended to threaten. This, the    government explains, is because even if Elonis didnt intend    tothreaten his ex-wife or the FBI agent, they were still    afraid and their lives were still disrupted: the First    Amendment doesnt protect him even if he knew that he    didnt mean to threaten them.  <\/p>\n<p>    We dont generally think of the Justices of the Supreme Court    as especially savvy about technology. They did acquit    themselves well last Term, in a case involving whether police    need a warrant to search someones cellphone after they arrest    him. But that may have been easier because they all have    cellphones. It is far less likely that any of these nine    intensely private public figures are on Facebook or any other    form of social media, so it will be interesting to watch them    grapple with these issues.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more from the original source:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.scotusblog.com\/2014\/11\/drawing-a-line-between-therapy-and-threats-in-plain-english\" title=\"Drawing a line between therapy and threats: In Plain English\">Drawing a line between therapy and threats: In Plain English<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Posted Mon, November 24th, 2014 3:31 pm by Amy Howe Protesting at the funeral of a fallen soldier. Lying about your military record.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/drawing-a-line-between-therapy-and-threats-in-plain-english\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94877],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-46763","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-first-amendment-2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46763"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=46763"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/46763\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=46763"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=46763"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=46763"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}