{"id":40530,"date":"2014-10-04T02:48:32","date_gmt":"2014-10-04T06:48:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/argument-preview-how-many-brake-lights-need-to-be-working-on-your-car\/"},"modified":"2014-10-04T02:48:32","modified_gmt":"2014-10-04T06:48:32","slug":"argument-preview-how-many-brake-lights-need-to-be-working-on-your-car","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/argument-preview-how-many-brake-lights-need-to-be-working-on-your-car\/","title":{"rendered":"Argument preview: How many brake lights need to be working on your car?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The Supreme Court will open the October 2014 Term on Monday    morning by hearing arguments that may bring back bad memories    of convoluted law school discussions: may an officers    reasonable mistake of law provide reasonable suspicion to    stop a car under the Fourth Amendment? The Court has previously    ruled that a reasonable mistake of fact will not    violate the Fourth Amendment. Although Jeff Fisher, an    experienced Supreme Court litigator, has presented some    formidable arguments to rule for Heien, he may face an uphill    battle persuading a majority of Justices that a reasonable, but    mistaken, interpretation of state law should receive    different constitutional treatment.  <\/p>\n<p>    Facts: A surprising interpretation of state    law.  <\/p>\n<p>    Heien was driving a car which undisputedly had only one of its    two rear brake lights working. Observing this, a member of a    local sheriffs department stopped Heiens car, ultimately    finding cocaine in it. Along with charging Heien with cocaine    trafficking, the officer cited Heien for a non-working brake    light, and the state trial court agreed that the stop was valid    based on this observed traffic violation. Heien then pled    guilty conditionally, reserving his right to appeal the denial    of his suppression motion.  <\/p>\n<p>    But on what basis could a court suppress? Well, in a decision    later described by even the dissenting North Carolina justices    as surprising, the state court of appeals ruled that, because    the antiquated North Carolina statute requires only    a stop lamp and one of Heiens brake lights    had in fact been working, the traffic stop was invalid. [A]n    officers mistaken belief that a defendant has committed a    traffic violation is not, said the appellate court, an    objectively reasonable justification for a traffic stop.  <\/p>\n<p>    Granting discretionary review, the North Carolina Supreme Court    disagreed. It noted that, although one part of the state law    required only a stop lamp, another required all rear    lamps to be in working order. Thus, the state supreme    court ruled, even assuming that the appellate courts statutory    interpretation was correct, the officers mistake of law was    objectively reasonable, and a reasonable mistake of law can    provide the reasonable suspicion needed to stop a car under    Terry v. Ohio. The Court also emphasized societys    interest in keeping its roads safe. (Heien contends that the    statute should define what the legislature thinks is safe, not    officers who misinterpret it.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Heiens petition for certiorari noted that various state and    federal courts have split on the general question whether    reasonable mistakes of law can support Fourth Amendment    intrusions (with the North Carolina Supreme Court having    adopted the minority view). On Monday, the Justices  at least    five of whom are former law professors  will bat this    ephemeral question around, hypotheticals abounding, in the    highest classroom in the land.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ideology and amicus briefs  <\/p>\n<p>    Along with merits briefs from Heien and North Carolina (which    will be represented by Deputy Attorney General Robert    Montgomery at oral argument), the federal government will also    participate in the argument (represented by Assistant to the    Solicitor General Rachel Kovner) as an amicus. Six    other amicus briefs have been filed, including one on    behalf of nineteen states and the District of Columbia    supporting North Carolinas view, and one filed by  among    others  the Gun Owners Foundation in support of Heien.    Ideology does not, apparently, forecast the preferred result on    the surprisingly unsettled constitutional question: the Gun    Owners Foundation brief argues, for example, that the Fourth    Amendment . . . cannot be diminished by modern judges who view    traffic safety [as] more important than property rights.  <\/p>\n<p>    The parties arguments  <\/p>\n<p>    Conceding that the Court has previously ruled that what is    generally demanded of the many factual determinations     regularly made by law enforcement is not that they always    be correct, but that they always be reasonable, Heien argues    that mistakes of law should be (and have always been) treated    differently. He argues (and both North Carolina and the federal    government appear to concede) that the common law has always    presumed that officers know the law, so that officers, for    example, have long been liable for trespass even if they    reasonably rely on an incorrect interpretation of a statute.    Ignorance of the law is no excuse, argues Heien.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.scotusblog.com\/2014\/10\/argument-preview-how-many-brake-lights-need-to-be-working-on-your-car\" title=\"Argument preview: How many brake lights need to be working on your car?\">Argument preview: How many brake lights need to be working on your car?<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The Supreme Court will open the October 2014 Term on Monday morning by hearing arguments that may bring back bad memories of convoluted law school discussions: may an officers reasonable mistake of law provide reasonable suspicion to stop a car under the Fourth Amendment? The Court has previously ruled that a reasonable mistake of fact will not violate the Fourth Amendment. Although Jeff Fisher, an experienced Supreme Court litigator, has presented some formidable arguments to rule for Heien, he may face an uphill battle persuading a majority of Justices that a reasonable, but mistaken, interpretation of state law should receive different constitutional treatment.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/argument-preview-how-many-brake-lights-need-to-be-working-on-your-car\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94879],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-40530","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fourth-amendment"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40530"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40530"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40530\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40530"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40530"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40530"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}