{"id":40302,"date":"2014-10-02T19:48:25","date_gmt":"2014-10-02T23:48:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/volokh-conspiracy-bonidy-v-united-states-the-second-amendment-at-the-post-office\/"},"modified":"2014-10-02T19:48:25","modified_gmt":"2014-10-02T23:48:25","slug":"volokh-conspiracy-bonidy-v-united-states-the-second-amendment-at-the-post-office","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/second-amendment-2\/volokh-conspiracy-bonidy-v-united-states-the-second-amendment-at-the-post-office\/","title":{"rendered":"Volokh Conspiracy: Bonidy v. United States: The Second Amendment at the post office"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Yesterday the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Bonidy    v. United States, which is an as-applied challenge to the    U.S. Postal Service regulation which completely prohibits    firearms on all postal property, including parking lots. Mr.    Bonidy lives in Avon, Colorado, and has a concealed carry    permit issued pursuant to Colorado law, following a    fingerprint-based background check, safety training, and the    County Sheriffs determination that he does not pose any threat    to himself or others.  <\/p>\n<p>    The post office does not provide home delivery in Avon, so    residents must go to the post office to pick up their mail from    a box. The local post office is open 24 hours a day, has    counter staff 6 hours a day, and provides no security for    patrons.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the District Court, Judge Richard Matsch upheld the postal    ban for the post office lobby (where patrons access their mail    boxes), ruling it to be among Hellers sensitive    places. He ruled the gun ban unconstitutional as applied to    Mr. Bonidy and the parking lot at the Avon Post Office. The    case thus came to the 10th Circuit on cross-appeals by the    parties. Mr. Bonidy is represented by the Mountain States Legal    Foundation. Some of the documents in the case (but not the    appellate briefs) are available on the website of Michel and Associates,    a southern California firm with a specialty in firearms cases.    Like me, Michel and Associates has no role in the case.  <\/p>\n<p>    Heres my take on some of the issues that the three-judge panel    raised at oral argument:  <\/p>\n<p>    Heller says that nothing in our opinion should be    taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the    possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws    forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as    schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions    and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. A footnote    adds: We identify these presumptively lawful regulatory    measures only as examples; our list does not purport to be    exhaustive.  <\/p>\n<p>    First question: What should lower courts do with presumptively    lawful? Does this mean that any law in the three listed    categories (felons\/mentally ill, sensitive places, conditions    on commercial sale of firearms) must automatically be upheld?    After all, as Judge David Ebel pointed out at oral argument,    Heller must be construed so as not to cast doubt on    the listed laws. Doesnt this mean that all such laws are    undoubtedly constitutional?  <\/p>\n<p>    Lets try applying that interpretation, to see if it makes    sense. Say that a regulation requires that when the owner of a    retail gun store goes home for the night, the store must have    security devices to prevent\/deter theft, including that guns    must be locked up. This is an easy fit with the Heller    dicta, and can speedily be held as lawful.  <\/p>\n<p>    But suppose that the anti-theft rule is that every gun in the    store must be disassembled before the store closes at night. Or    that the gun store may only be open for business five hours per    week. Or that only persons with a college degree may work in a    gun store. All of these would be conditions and qualifications    on the commercial sale of arms. These laws are manifestly    oppressive, extreme, and unreasonable. They should be subject    to heightened scrutiny, and with heightened scrutiny applied,    should be ruled unconstitutional.  <\/p>\n<p>    So one way to answer the question about presumptively lawful    would be to say that the presumption can be overcome. The more    unreasonable, oppressive, or excessive the regulation, the    better the argument that the presumption has been overcome. In    this argument, it also matters whether the regulation is    longstanding. The Postal Service gun ban only dates back to    the early 1970s, just a few years before the District of    Columbia enacted its 1975 handgun ban and ban on use of    firearms for self-defense in the home. The D.C. ordinances were    obviously not longstanding by Hellers standards,    and s neither is the postal ban.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now that we know that the presumption of lawfulness can    sometimes be rebutted, the next question is what is the scope    of sensitive places such as schools or government buildings?    We have to take into account that in the single sentence about    permissible gun controls, the Supreme Court was providing    general guidance, and was not attempting to provide a detailed    rule to cover all situations.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the original post here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/feeds.washingtonpost.com\/c\/34656\/f\/636635\/s\/3f11877d\/sc\/1\/l\/0L0Swashingtonpost0N0Cbonidy0Ev0Eunited0Estates0Ethe0Esecond0Eamendment0Eat0Ethe0Epost0Eoffice0C20A140C10A0C0A20C72fba20A50Ebbdb0E435a0Eba1e0E0A3eb662445320Istory0Bhtml0Dwprss0Frss0Inational\/story01.htm\/RK=0\/RS=jGVIQkk4_N51fhv6bUEY_5TDw2E-\" title=\"Volokh Conspiracy: Bonidy v. United States: The Second Amendment at the post office\">Volokh Conspiracy: Bonidy v. United States: The Second Amendment at the post office<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Yesterday the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Bonidy v. 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