{"id":210985,"date":"2017-08-10T06:09:20","date_gmt":"2017-08-10T10:09:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/immortality-mind-dalai-lama-brainstorms-the-universe-with-russian-scientists-sputnik-international\/"},"modified":"2017-08-10T06:09:20","modified_gmt":"2017-08-10T10:09:20","slug":"immortality-mind-dalai-lama-brainstorms-the-universe-with-russian-scientists-sputnik-international","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/immortality\/immortality-mind-dalai-lama-brainstorms-the-universe-with-russian-scientists-sputnik-international\/","title":{"rendered":"Immortality &amp; Mind: Dalai Lama Brainstorms the Universe With Russian Scientists &#8211; Sputnik International"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>       AP Photo\/ Khin Maung Win    <\/p>\n<p>    Konstantin Anokhin, prominent Russian neurobiologist and member    ofboth Russian Academy ofSciences and Russian    Academy ofMedical Sciences, told RIA Novosti that Russian scientists have been    studying consciousness forover 150 years, and their    materialistic conception ofconsciousness differs    fromthe classic materialism ofWestern science.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"I believe that what we need now is a new, bold fundamental    theory instead ofexperiments This is our message    toBuddhist science: we need a theory that isnt based    onsubjective experience alone. This new theory may    influence our methods and techniques, and draw the attention    tomeditation,\" Anokhin said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Notable Russian neurolinguistics researcher Tatyana    Chernigovskaya who acted asmoderator duringthe    conference concurred withAnokhin.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"The amount ofempirical data that we have grows    bythe minute. Weve even reached an impasse ofsorts    because we dont know what todo withthis data. We    could sort it, ofcourse, and there are processing methods    available, butwe are not advancing further. If I study    each and every cell inyour body, I wont learn anything    aboutyour personality. And delving intobrains and    pulling outeach and every neuron outwont help me    understand how it works. Okay, so weve studied 30 billion more    neurons, now what? What question have we answered? None. We    need a genius who can tell us you need toask a different    question. Its clear that atthis point that a new theory    is badly needed,\" Chernigovskaya said, adding that philosophy    plays a key role inthis matter.  <\/p>\n<p>    For the Good ofMankind  <\/p>\n<p>    The goal ofthe conference was tofacilitate dialogue    betweenRussian scientists and Buddhist scholars related    toa variety ofscientific disciplines such    asphysics, cosmology, biology and axiology.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Ive had useful discussions withscientists formore    than30 years withtwo purposes inmind. The    first is toextend our knowledge. Until the late 20th    century scientists mostly investigated external phenomena,    including the brain. These were things they could measure and    which a third person could agree about. However, inthe    late 20th century and early 21st century more and more    scientists have begun tofind evidence that experiences    such asmeditation and mind training affect our brains    inpreviously unforeseen waysthis is called    neuroplasticity,\" the Dalai Lama said.  <\/p>\n<p>       AP Photo\/    <\/p>\n<p>      The 14th Dalai Lama    <\/p>\n<p>    The second purpose, he added, was tohelp raise awareness    and foster compassion amongpeople, tohelp stop the    endless cycle ofviolence and todeal withthe    issue ofdisparity betweenrich and poor.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"We have tolearn fromexperience and enter    intodialogue, remembering that other people are our    brothers and sisters. We have tolive together. The global    economy and the effects ofclimate change are not limited    bynational borders. Its the idea of us and them we    have torestrain, because it so easily becomes the basis    forviolence. We have toeducate people    tounderstand that we are all part ofhumanity, he    added.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dalai Lama: Consciousness Does Not Equal Brain  <\/p>\n<p>    According tothe Buddhist leader, consciousness consists    ofseveral layers and is not fully connected tothe    brain.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"For example, these different levels ofconsciousness    manifest duringsleep, when we do not possess our senses    butremain aware, or when a person faints. Even when a man    dies, we (Buddhists) know that the consciousness continues    toexist,\" he said.  <\/p>\n<p>       Sputnik\/ Olga Lipich    <\/p>\n<p>      Dalai Lama and Russian scientists take part in a conference      in New Delhi    <\/p>\n<p>    The Dalai Lama explained that, according toBuddhist    teachings, consciousness is intrinsically connected    tolife, and the most subtle level ofconsciousness    is devoid ofgenetic basis and transfers fromone    life toanother aspart ofthe rebirth cycle.  <\/p>\n<p>    He also remarked that it is very hard totell whether an    artificial intelligence can possess a consciousness.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Everything inthe world is determined    bycause-effect relationships, and a consciousness  even    the most subtle level ofit  can only be the continuation    ofconsciousness. But artificial intelligence is just    particles,\" the Dalai Lama said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Professor David Dubrovsky fromthe Russian Academy    ofSciences Institute ofPhilosophy also pointed    outthat a thought is devoid ofphysical dimensions    such asmass or length, and that it all comes downto    explaining the relation betweenthoughts and brain    activity.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"It is called the hard problem ofconsciousness. Western    science has been dominated byreductionist concepts that    narrowed thought processes downto physical processes or    tobehaviorism. The prevalent concepts inRussia,    however, have retained the aspects ofsubjective reality    and non-physical process,\" Dubrovsky said.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Origins ofthe Big Bang  <\/p>\n<p>    The participants ofthe conference also broached the Big    Bang theory, asKonstantin Anokhin argued that    consciousness did not exist when Earth was devoid oflife,    and that consciousness appeared asa result    ofevolution.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"The origins ofconsciousness lie inemotions. Even    the simplest organisms have emotions; theyre capable    ofexperiencing satisfaction or suffering depending    onwhether they succeed or fail toachieve    something,\" Anokhin said.  <\/p>\n<p>       AP Photo\/ Luca Bruno    <\/p>\n<p>      Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, center, leaves a Tibetan Buddhist      institute, in Milan    <\/p>\n<p>    \"But the Big Bang must require a vast amount ofenergy, so    where did it come from?\" the Buddhist spiritual leader    inquired.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Not fromthe mind or consciousness,\" Anokhin replied.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"But how do you know that? Energy is immaterial. We need    toexplain why vast amounts ofenergy have material    basis  Theres a contradiction here,\" Dalai Lama retorted.  <\/p>\n<p>    He also remarked that onthe most subtle level,    consciousness and rocks were created outof the same    particles.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"So why does one particle become a rock while another becomes    consciousness?\" Dalai Lama mused.  <\/p>\n<p>    Schrodingers Cat and Language  <\/p>\n<p>    During the conference professor Tatyana Chernigovskaya also    presented her report  Cheshire Smile ofSchrodingers    Cat: Language and Consciousness.  <\/p>\n<p>    She cited Niels Bohr, one ofthe pioneers ofquantum    mechanics, who said that the observer is a part ofthe    scientific paradigm and that the results ofan experiment    are influenced bythe person who conducts it, and Albert    Einstein who called the intuitive mind a sacred gift, adding    that many prominent scientists inthe pastclaimed    that the outsideworld is \"built fromthe inside.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Would music or mathematics continue toexist    withoutthose who listen and think? My answer is no:    Without man, Mozarts music would merely become vibrations    ofair,\" Chernigovskaya said.  <\/p>\n<p>    She added that neuroscientists should focus their attention    onmusic and music and language, especially poetry.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Today a new science called biolinguistics seeks    todiscover universal traits ofthe evolution    ofbiological systems and language,\" Chernigovskaya said.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Dalai Lama also remarked that her findings have a lot    incommon withBuddhist teachings aboutthe    interdependence ofall things.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>More here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/sputniknews.com\/science\/201708091056311797-neuroscience-buddhism-conference-dalai-lama\/\" title=\"Immortality &amp; Mind: Dalai Lama Brainstorms the Universe With Russian Scientists - Sputnik International\">Immortality &amp; Mind: Dalai Lama Brainstorms the Universe With Russian Scientists - Sputnik International<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> AP Photo\/ Khin Maung Win Konstantin Anokhin, prominent Russian neurobiologist and member ofboth Russian Academy ofSciences and Russian Academy ofMedical Sciences, told RIA Novosti that Russian scientists have been studying consciousness forover 150 years, and their materialistic conception ofconsciousness differs fromthe classic materialism ofWestern science.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/immortality\/immortality-mind-dalai-lama-brainstorms-the-universe-with-russian-scientists-sputnik-international\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":6,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187740],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-210985","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-immortality"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210985"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/6"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=210985"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210985\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=210985"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=210985"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=210985"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}