{"id":210309,"date":"2017-08-06T16:54:58","date_gmt":"2017-08-06T20:54:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/does-science-make-theism-likelier-than-atheism-patheos-blog\/"},"modified":"2017-08-06T16:54:58","modified_gmt":"2017-08-06T20:54:58","slug":"does-science-make-theism-likelier-than-atheism-patheos-blog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/atheism\/does-science-make-theism-likelier-than-atheism-patheos-blog\/","title":{"rendered":"Does Science Make Theism Likelier than Atheism? &#8211; Patheos (blog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Victor Reppert recently linked to an article on the    blogSaints and Sceptics (S&S), Why Science Makes Theism Likelier    than Atheism.In this blog post, Im going to    critically assess that article.  <\/p>\n<p>    1. What is the Evidence to be Explained?  <\/p>\n<p>    S&S begin their article as follows:  <\/p>\n<p>      Should we view the order of the universe, and our ability to      comprehend that order, as evidence of God?    <\/p>\n<p>    This question suggests two related but independent items of    evidence to be explained:  <\/p>\n<p>      E1. Theuniverse is orderly.    <\/p>\n<p>      E2. The universe contains intelligent beings able to      comprehend that order.    <\/p>\n<p>    Regarding E1, S&S dont clarify or explain what they mean    by phrases like the order of the universe or, elsewhere, the    high degree of order of the universe. In order to be    charitable, Im going to steel man their argument by    assuming they are appealing to something similar to what    Christian philosopher Richard Swinburne calls the arguments    from spatial and temporal order in his book,The    Existence of God. Theargument from temporal    order appeals to the fact that there are regular successions    of events, codified in laws of nature.[1] The phrase regular    succession of events is key; this is why, I suppose, Swinburne    calls it the argument fromtemporalorder.    In contrast, the argument from spatial order appeals to the    fact that, given our universe conformstosimple,    formulable, scientific natural laws, our bodies are suitable    vehicles to provide us with an enormous amount of knowledge of    the world and to execute an enormous variety of purposes in    it.[2] This steel man interpretation seems highly    charitable, since E1 seems to correspond with Swinburnes    argument from temporal order, whereas E2 is very similar to    Swinburnes argument from spatial order.[3]  <\/p>\n<p>    Accordingly, we may clarify E1 as follows.  <\/p>\n<p>      E1. The universeconforms to simple, formulable,      scientific laws.    <\/p>\n<p>    With the evidence to be explained sufficiently clarified, lets    unpack their argument.  <\/p>\n<p>    2. What, Precisely, Is the Argument?  <\/p>\n<p>    Before I can turn to the logical structure of S&Ss    argument, lets first review some notations which will make it    easier to summarize the argument in a concise form.  <\/p>\n<p>      Pr(x): the epistemic probability of any      proposition x      Pr(x | y): the epistemic probability of any      proposition x conditional upon y      >!: is much more probable than      >!!: is much, much more probable      than      T: theism      A:atheism. A is logically equivalent to ~T.    <\/p>\n<p>    The first premise of the argument is a simple statement of E1:  <\/p>\n<p>      (1)E1 is known to be true, i.e., Pr(E1) is close to      1.    <\/p>\n<p>    Lets now return to S&S:  <\/p>\n<p>      Lets start with atheism. From an atheistic perspective,      there doesnt seem to be any explanation for the order in the      universe; it would just be a brute fact or a happy accident      as Polkinghorne puts it.    <\/p>\n<p>      But that doesnt seem good enough. In the absence of an      explanation, we would have no reason to expect the high      degree of order that we find. But does theism fare any      better? To many it seems very likely that if the universe is      the product of an intelligent mind, it would exhibit order.          <\/p>\n<p>    So thesecond premise of the argument seems to be:  <\/p>\n<p>      (2) An orderly universe is antecedently much more probable on      the assumption that theism is true than on the assumption      that atheism is true, i.e.,Pr(E1 | T) > Pr(E1 |      A).    <\/p>\n<p>    The third premise is a simple statement of the evidence E2.  <\/p>\n<p>      (3)E2 is known to be true, i.e., Pr(E2) is close to 1.    <\/p>\n<p>    Returning to S&S:  <\/p>\n<p>      But does theism make      anintelligibleuniverse  especially one      which is governed by comprehensible laws and which can      described by mathematics  any more likely?     <\/p>\n<p>      If our minds are the result of design we could rely on them      to discover the truth. Rational rulers used laws to govern       and God was the ruler of the universe. And it would not be      surprising to discover that mathematics could describe the      universe if the divine mind and human minds were analogous      inat leastsome respects. Finally if the universe      is created by a good God, he would not systematically deceive      us. In light of these considerations, Kepler and his fellow      scientists were surely right to think that there is much more      reason to expect an intelligible universe if there is a God      than if there is not.    <\/p>\n<p>    So the next premise seems to be:  <\/p>\n<p>      (4)An intelligible universe is antecedently much more      probable on the assumption that theism is true and an orderly      exists than on the assumption that atheism is true and an      orderly universe exists, i.e.,Pr(E2 | T & E1) >      Pr(E2 | A & E1).    <\/p>\n<p>    Finally, S&S concludes:  <\/p>\n<p>          So it is obvious that any complex, valuable, beautiful          and intelligible state of affairs  including our          universe  is much, much more likely given theism than          chance.        <\/p>\n<p>    And so the conclusion of their argument is:  <\/p>\n<p>      (5) Therefore,theism is a much, much morelikely      explanation for the order and intelligibility of the universe      than chance, i.e., Pr(T | E1 & E2) >!!      Pr(chance | E1 & E2).    <\/p>\n<p>    We are now in a position to concisely state the argument in its    logical form.  <\/p>\n<p>      (1) Pr(E1) is close to 1.      (2) Pr(E1 | T) > Pr(E1 | A).      (3) Pr(E2) is close to 1.      (4) Pr(E2 | T & E1) > Pr(E2 | A & E1).      (C) Therefore, Pr(T | E1 & E2) >!! Pr(chance |      E1 & E2).    <\/p>\n<p>    Let us now turn to evaluating the strength of this argument.    While I have many objections to this argument, let me present    just four.  <\/p>\n<p>    3.First Objection: The Argument Ignores Intrinsic    Probabilities  <\/p>\n<p>    This argument is a deductive argument about inductive    probabilities. As stated, however, the argument is incomplete.    It does not contain any premises regarding the prior    probabilities of theism and atheism. But Bayes Theorem shows    that posterior or final probabilities are a function of two    things: prior probability and explanatory power. S&S write    much about the latter, whereas they are completely silent about    the former. This invalidates their argument. Its possible that    (1)  (4) could all be true and yet the conclusion, (C), still    might not follow if the prior probability is extremely low.  <\/p>\n<p>    In order to repair the argument, S&S would need to add a    premise to their argument which explicitly addresses the prior    probabilities of theism and atheism. Now, applying the concept    of a prior probability to a metaphysical hypothesis like    theism is tricky. It isnt clear from S&Ss article which    propositions they would include in their background information    for the purpose of assessing a prior probability, and I do not    know of a non-controversial way to choose such propositions.    Fortunately we dont have to solve that problem; another option    is to replace prior probability with intrinsic probability.    As the name implies, an intrinsic probability is the    probability of a hypothesis based solely on intrinsic factors    relating to its content (i.e., what it says); it has nothing to    do with extrinsic factors, such as the relationship between a    hypothesis and the evidence to be explained.  <\/p>\n<p>    In an attempt to steel man S&Ss argument, I propose that    we adopt     Paul Drapers theory of intrinsic probability, which says    that the intrinsic probability of a hypothesis is determined by    its scope, its modesty, and nothing else. Draper explains    modesty and scope as follows.  <\/p>\n<p>      a. Modesty: The modesty of a hypothesis is inversely      proportional to its contentto how much it says. Hypotheses      that say lessfor example, becausethey make fewer      claims or less specific claims or claims that are narrower in      scopeare, other things being equal, more likely to be true      than hypotheses that say more.    <\/p>\n<p>      b. Coherence: The coherence of a hypothesis depends on how      well its components fit together.    <\/p>\n<p>      c. If we abstract from all factors extrinsic to a hypothesis,      then the only thing that could affect the epistemic      probability of that hypothesis is how much it says and how      well what it says fits together. No other factors affecting      probability could be intrinsic to the hypothesis.    <\/p>\n<p>    Using these criteria, were now in a position to compare the    intrinsic probabilities of theism and atheism. Before we do    that, however, we need to start with the intrinsic    probabilities of naturalism and supernaturalism. Heres Draper:  <\/p>\n<p>      4. The intrinsic probabilities of naturalism and      supernaturalism    <\/p>\n<p>      a. Naturalism is the statement that the physical world      existed prior to any mental world and caused any mental world      to come into existence.      b. Supernaturalism is the statement that the mental world      existed prior to any physical world and caused any physical      world to come into existence.      c. Otherism is the statement that both naturalism and      supernaturalism are false.      d. Naturalism and supernaturalism are equally probable      intrinsically because they are equally modest and coherent.      Since the intrinsic epistemic probability of otherism is      greater than zero, naturalism and supernaturalism are each      less probable intrinsically than their denials. (So both      naturalists and supernaturalists bear a burden of proof and      that burden is equal.)    <\/p>\n<p>      5.The intrinsic probabilities of theism and      atheism      a. Theism is a very specific version of supernaturalism and      so is many times (i.e. at least 10 times) less probable      intrinsically than supernaturalism.      b. Naturalism is a specific version of atheism and so is many      times less probable than atheism.      c. Thus, since naturalism and supernaturalism are equally      probable intrinsically, it follows that atheism is many times      more probable intrinsically than theism, which entails that      atheism has a high intrinsic probability (certainly higher      than .9) while theism has a very low intrinsic probability      (certainly lower than .1).    <\/p>\n<p>    Let me introduce a bit more notation:  <\/p>\n<p>      Pr(|x|): the intrinsic probability of any      proposition x    <\/p>\n<p>    Using that notation, we are now in a position to add the    missing premise to S&Ss argument:  <\/p>\n<p>      (5) Atheism is many times more probable intrinsically than      theism, i.e., Pr(|A|) > .9 >!! Pr(|T|) < .1.    <\/p>\n<p>    Unfortunately for S&S, however, it is far from obvious that    the evidence to be explained, E1 and E2, outweigh the very low    intrinsic probability of theism. Accordingly, its far from    obvious that the conclusion, (C), follows from premises    (1)-(5).  <\/p>\n<p>    4. Second Objection:Pr(E1 | A) May Be    Inscrutable  <\/p>\n<p>    My second objection to S&Ss argument is that Pr(E1 | A)    may be inscrutable.If its inscrutable,    thentheycant compare Pr(E1 | T) to Pr(E1 | A).    Accordingly, the truth of (2) would be unknown.While Im    open to the possibility that (2) is true, I cannot figure out a    way to defend it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Why think Pr(E1 | A) is inscrutable? In the context of E1, A    is a catch-all hypothesis. A is logically equivalent    to A conjoined with all possible explanations for temporal    order in the universe apart from theism.[4] For example:  <\/p>\n<p>      A1: A is true, and the explanation for temporal order in the      universe is naturalistic explanation #1.      A2: A is true, and the explanation for temporal order in the      universe is naturalisticexplanation #2.    <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>      An:A is true, and the explanation for temporal order in      the universe is naturalisticexplanation #n.    <\/p>\n<p>    Thats a lot of potential explanations. Accordingly, this    constitutes a prima facie reason to be skeptical of    the claim that Pr(E1 | A) can be known well enough to support    a comparative claim such as (2).The only way to reject    this prima facie reason would be to identify some    intrinsic feature of A which either ruled out a naturalistic    explanation for E1 or which made such an explanation    antecedently less likely than it would be on T. Is there such a    reason?  <\/p>\n<p>    Lets reconsider part of what S&S write in support of (2):  <\/p>\n<p>      From an atheistic perspective, there doesnt seem to be any      explanation for the order in the universe; it would just be a      brute fact or a happy accident as Polkinghorne puts it.    <\/p>\n<p>    By brute fact, I assume that S&S mean a fact which has    no explanation. By happy accident, I assume that    Polkinghorne means due to chance. But brute fact and happy    accident hardly constitute an exhaustive set of the    possibilities. Let me add just one more to the list:    factual necessity. Metaphysical naturalism (as defined    in the Draper quote, above) is antecedently very probable on    the assumption that atheism is true. If metaphysical naturalism    is true, then it seems highly plausible that physical reality     whether that consists of just our universe or a multiverse  is    factually necessary. If physical reality is factually    necessary, it seems highly plausible that temporal order could    also be factually necessary. But if temporal order is factually    necessary, then it is just factually necessary and there is    nothing for atheism to explain.  <\/p>\n<p>    Admittedly, the hypothesis, our universe and its laws are    factually necessary,is highly speculative and not known    to be true. But, to paraphrase a point once made by CalTech    physicist Sean Carroll, theists like S&S are the ones    proposing bizarre thought experiments involving the fundamental    laws of nature. So we have to consider such speculative    possibilities due to the very nature of the topic and the    argument. In any case, this much is clear: S&S give no    evidence of having even considered, much less addressed, such a    possibility.  <\/p>\n<p>    5. Third Objection: The Conclusion Confuses Atheism    with Chance  <\/p>\n<p>    My third objection is closely related to my point about factual    necessity.  <\/p>\n<p>          So it is obvious that any complex, valuable, beautiful          and intelligible state of affairs  including our          universe  is much, much more likely given theism than          chance.        <\/p>\n<p>    The conclusion of the argument does not follow from the    premises because the conclusion compares theism to    chance, not theism to atheism. But, as weve just    seen, atheism functions as a catch-all hypothesis. Atheism is    compatible with the proposition, The universe and its temporal    order are factually necessary. N.B. That proposition    denies that the order of the universe is due to    chance. And S&S provide no reason to think that chance is    antecedently much more probable on atheism than factual    necessity.  <\/p>\n<p>    6. Fourth Objection: The Argument Commits the Fallacy    of Understated Evidence  <\/p>\n<p>    As is the case with E1, Im open to the possibility that E2,    either by itself or when conjoined with E1, is evidence    favoring theism over atheism.[5] In other words, Im open to    the idea that (4) is true.I dont think S&S have    successfully shown this, however. Rather than pursue    thatobjection here, however, Ill leave that as an    exercise for interested readers.Instead, I want to pursue    a different objection: even if (4) were true, it would commit    the     fallacy of understated evidence.  <\/p>\n<p>    Lets suppose, for the sake of argument, that the    intelligibility of the universe really is evidence favoring    theism over atheism. Given that the universe is intelligible,    the fact that so much of it is intelligible without    appealing to supernatural agency is much more probable on    naturalism than on theism. (Ive defended this argument at    length elsewhere, so I will refer interested readers to that    defense.) Since naturalism entails atheism, it follows that    this evidence favoring atheism over theism.  <\/p>\n<p>    The upshot is this: even if the intelligibility of the universe    is evidence favoring theism, there is other, more specific    evidence relating to its intelligibility which favors    naturalism (and hence atheism) over theism. Its far from    obvious that the former outweighs the latter.  <\/p>\n<p>    7. Conclusion  <\/p>\n<p>    As weve seen, there are four good objections to S&Ss    claim that science makes theism more likely than atheism. I    conclude, then, that S&Ss argument is not successful.  <\/p>\n<p>    Notes  <\/p>\n<p>    [1] Richard Swinburne,The Existence of    God(second ed., New York: Oxford University Press,    2004), p. 153.  <\/p>\n<p>    [2]Swinburne 2004, p. 154.  <\/p>\n<p>    [3] The main or only difference between Swinburnes argument    from spatial order and S&Ss E2 is that the former also    appeals to our ability to execute an enormous variety of    purposes in the world, whereas the latter does not.  <\/p>\n<p>    [4] Herman Phillipse,God in the Age of Science? A    Critique of Religious Reason(New York: Oxford    University Press, 2012), 258.  <\/p>\n<p>    [5] For what its worth, I think E2 is much more promising than    E1 as a potential source of theistic evidence.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the article here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/secularoutpost\/2017\/08\/05\/science-make-theism-likelier-atheism\/\" title=\"Does Science Make Theism Likelier than Atheism? - Patheos (blog)\">Does Science Make Theism Likelier than Atheism? - Patheos (blog)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Victor Reppert recently linked to an article on the blogSaints and Sceptics (S&#038;S), Why Science Makes Theism Likelier than Atheism.In this blog post, Im going to critically assess that article. 1.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/atheism\/does-science-make-theism-likelier-than-atheism-patheos-blog\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[162381],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-210309","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210309"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=210309"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210309\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=210309"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=210309"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=210309"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}