{"id":209892,"date":"2017-08-04T13:32:54","date_gmt":"2017-08-04T17:32:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/you-are-worse-than-i-am-trump-told-turnbull-he-admired-offshore-detention-the-guardian\/"},"modified":"2017-08-04T13:32:54","modified_gmt":"2017-08-04T17:32:54","slug":"you-are-worse-than-i-am-trump-told-turnbull-he-admired-offshore-detention-the-guardian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/offshore\/you-are-worse-than-i-am-trump-told-turnbull-he-admired-offshore-detention-the-guardian\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;You are worse than I am&#8217;: Trump told Turnbull he admired offshore detention &#8211; The Guardian"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>  Donald Trump said allowing some refugees currently held on Manus  island and Nauru would kill him politically. Photograph:  Jonathan Ernst\/Reuters<\/p>\n<p>    Donald Trump told the Australian prime minister, Malcolm    Turnbull, that a deal to admit to the US refugees currently    held on Manus island and Nauru was    stupid and would kill him politically, given his status as    the worlds greatest person that does not want to let people    into the country.<\/p>\n<p>    A White House transcript of the contentious    28 January phone call was published by    the Washington Post on Thursday. The Post also published    a transcript    of a 27 January conversation with the Mexican president,    Enrique Pea Nieto, in which Trump seems to dismiss his    much-vaunted border wall as a political ploy and asks Pea    Nieto not to state publicly that he will not pay for it.  <\/p>\n<p>    The published transcript showed that in the Turnbull call,    which was previously    reported to have become angry in tone, Trump complained    about the domestic political consequences of the Obama-era    Nauru agreement.<\/p>\n<p>    Referring to the first iteration of his controversial travel    ban on seven Muslim-majority countries, Trump said: I just    called for a total ban on Syria and from many different    countries from where there is terror, and extreme vetting for    everyone else  and somebody told me yesterday that close to    2,000 people are coming [from Manus island and Nauru] who are    really probably troublesome.  <\/p>\n<p>    And I am saying, Boy, that will make us look awfully bad.    Here I am calling for a ban where I am not letting anybody in    and we take 2,000 people. Really, it looks like 2,000 people    that Australia does not want, and I do not blame you, by the    way, but the United States has become like a dumping ground.  <\/p>\n<p>    Turnbull explained, repeatedly, that the US was only obligated    to look at taking 1,250-2,000 basically economic refugees from    Iran, Pakistan, and Afghanistan, and that Australia had    committed to actions in return.  <\/p>\n<p>    I think we should respect deals, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Why havent you let them out? Trump asked. Why have you not    let them into your society?  <\/p>\n<p>    OK, said Turnbull, I will explain why. It is not because    they are bad people. It is because in order to stop people    smugglers, we had to deprive them of the product. So we said    if you try to    come to Australia by boat, even if we think you are the    best person in the world, even if you are a Noble [sic]    Prize-winning genius, we will not let you in. Because the    problem with the people <\/p>\n<p>    Trump interjected, to say: That is a good idea. We should do    that too. You are worse than I am.<\/p>\n<p>      OK, this shows me to be a dope. I am not like this but if I      have to do it I will do it but I do not like this at all    <\/p>\n<p>    The US president continued however to complain and to misstate    the terms of the deal as stated by Turnbull, saying: This is    going to kill me. I am the worlds greatest person that does    not want to let people into the country. And now I am agreeing    to take 2,000 people and I agree I can vet them, but that puts    me in a bad position. It makes me look so bad and I have only    been here a week.  <\/p>\n<p>    The president even linked the agreement to his election win,    saying: Look, I do not know how you got them to sign a deal    like this, but that is how they lost the election. They said I    had no way to 270 [electoral college votes] and I got 306.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by more than 2.5m ballots.  <\/p>\n<p>    That is why [the Democrats] lost the election, Trump    repeated, because of stupid deals like this. You have brokered    many a stupid deal in business and I respect you, but I    guarantee that you broke many a stupid deal. This is a stupid    deal. This deal will make me look terrible.  <\/p>\n<p>    Turnbull insisted on the importance of the US honoring its    commitments and said the deal was consistent with the    principles set out in the Trump travel ban.  <\/p>\n<p>    The president yielded, if grudgingly. OK, he said, this    shows me to be a dope. I am not like this but if I have to do    it I will do it but I do not like this at all.  <\/p>\n<p>    Trump then complained again and asked Turnbull for a guarantee    that anyone admitted would not become the Boston bomber in    five years.  <\/p>\n<p>    Before ending the call, he said: I have had it. I have been    making these calls all day and this is the most unpleasant call    all day. [Russian president Vladimir] Putin was a pleasant    call. This is ridiculous.  <\/p>\n<p>    The conversation had begun pleasantly enough, with small talk    about the Australian golfer Greg Norman, a mutual friend who    had given Trumps number to Turnbull.  <\/p>\n<p>    In subsequent days, Trump returned to the subject. On 2    February, for example, he tweeted:    Do you believe it? The Obama Administration agreed to take    thousands of illegal immigrants from Australia. Why? I will    study this dumb deal!  <\/p>\n<p>    The US commitment to take the refugees remains    unclear.  <\/p>\n<p>    At the end of the call, Turnbull asked Trump: Do you want to    talk about Syria and [North Korea]?  <\/p>\n<p>    Trump answered with a remark transcribed as inaudible and    said: This is crazy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thank you for your commitment, said Turnbull. It is very    important to us.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is important to you and it is embarrassing to me, Trump    said. It is an embarrassment to me, but at least I got you off    the hook. So you put me back on the hook.<\/p>\n<p>    You can count on me, said Turnbull. I will be there again    and again.  <\/p>\n<p>    In February Trump tweeted that reports that the conversation    had been anything but civil were fake news.  <\/p>\n<p>    He repeated the claim when Turnbull went to New York in May. In    a joint media    appearance, Turnbull agreed after Trump said: We had a    good call. You guys exaggerated that call, that was a big    exaggeration. We had a great call. I mean, were not babies,    but we had a great call. That was a bit of fake news.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the original post here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/us-news\/2017\/aug\/03\/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-refugees-australia-phone-call\" title=\"'You are worse than I am': Trump told Turnbull he admired offshore detention - The Guardian\">'You are worse than I am': Trump told Turnbull he admired offshore detention - The Guardian<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Donald Trump said allowing some refugees currently held on Manus island and Nauru would kill him politically. Photograph: Jonathan Ernst\/Reuters Donald Trump told the Australian prime minister, Malcolm Turnbull, that a deal to admit to the US refugees currently held on Manus island and Nauru was stupid and would kill him politically, given his status as the worlds greatest person that does not want to let people into the country <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/offshore\/you-are-worse-than-i-am-trump-told-turnbull-he-admired-offshore-detention-the-guardian\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187814],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-209892","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-offshore"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/209892"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/8"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=209892"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/209892\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=209892"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=209892"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=209892"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}