{"id":209649,"date":"2017-08-03T10:39:42","date_gmt":"2017-08-03T14:39:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/ideas-mark-vs-musk-or-utopia-vs-dystopia-the-indian-express\/"},"modified":"2017-08-03T10:39:42","modified_gmt":"2017-08-03T14:39:42","slug":"ideas-mark-vs-musk-or-utopia-vs-dystopia-the-indian-express","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/new-utopia\/ideas-mark-vs-musk-or-utopia-vs-dystopia-the-indian-express\/","title":{"rendered":"Ideas: Mark vs Musk, or utopia vs dystopia &#8211; The Indian Express"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Written by Shruti Dhapola |    Updated: August 3, 2017 10:40    am    The worst nightmare in this scenario is of the creation of a  new-age Frankensteins monster, a super-intelligent entity that  is beyond human control. (Illustration: C R Sasikumar)  <\/p>\n<p>    What is artificial intelligence (AI)? Why is there so    much discussion in science and tech circles about it?  <\/p>\n<p>    Artificial Intelligence comes from computer systems that have    been programmed to  or have learnt to  do tasks that would    otherwise require human intelligence. Many apps and software    are already making mundane work easier by doing a certain part    of it for us, based on acquired intelligence. Companies like    Uber are working on cars that travel from point to point,    negotiating hurdles on the way and taking decisions on their    own to ensure the journey is event-less.  <\/p>\n<p>    While the full evolution of AI can open up a world of    incredible possibilities, a fear many scientists have had is of    computers beginning to gradually start doing things differently    from the way in which a human programmer would do them. The    worst nightmare in this scenario is of the creation of a    new-age Frankensteins monster, a super-intelligent entity that    is beyond human control.  <\/p>\n<p>    And what was the exchange between Elon Musk and Mark    Zuckerberg about?  <\/p>\n<p>    It started when the Facebook CEO was    asked his views on AI during a Facebook Live Q&A on July    23. A viewer referred to fears expressed by Musk about AI    getting out of hand (details in next question). Zuckerberg    rejected Musks fears. I have pretty strong opinions on this.    I am optimistic, he said. And I think people who are    naysayers and try to drum up these doomsday scenarios  I just,    I dont understand it. Its really negative and in some ways I    actually think it is pretty irresponsible.  <\/p>\n<p>    Two days later, Musk hit back. Ive talked to Mark    [Zuckerberg] about this. His understanding of the subject is    limited, he tweeted on July 25. Zuckerberg didnt respond to    this tweet, but wrote a Facebook post congratulating the AI    team at his company, and reiterating his faith in the ability    of AI to do good.  <\/p>\n<p>    One reason Im so optimistic about AI is that improvements in    basic research improve systems across so many different fields     from diagnosing diseases to keep us healthy, to improving    self-driving cars to keep us safe, and from showing you better    content in News Feed to delivering you more relevant search    results, he wrote. Every time we improve our AI methods, all    of these systems get better. Im excited about all the progress    here and its potential to make the world better.  <\/p>\n<p>    So why is Musk apprehensive about AI?  <\/p>\n<p>    The comment that Zuckerberg got asked about was made on July    15, when Musk told the National Governors Association summer    meeting at Providence, Rhode Island: I have exposure to the    very cutting edge AI, and I think people should be really    concerned about it. I keep sounding the alarm bell, but until    people see robots going down the street killing people, they    dont know how to react, because it seems so ethereal.  <\/p>\n<p>    Musk has held such views for several years now. In 2014,    addressing students at MIT, he had said, I think we should be    very careful about artificial intelligence. If I were to guess    like what our biggest existential threat is, its probably    that Increasingly, scientists think there should be some    regulatory oversight, maybe at the national and international    level, just to make sure that we dont do something very    foolish. In the same speech, Musk compared AI to summoning    the demon, and warned we might not be able to control it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Also in 2014, Musk had tweeted: We need to be super careful    with AI. Potentially more dangerous than nukes.  <\/p>\n<p>    In June 2016, he told The Code Conference (where industry    influencers have in-depth conversations about the current and    future impact of digital technology on our lives), I dont    love the idea of being a house cat, adding that the way to    avoid that fate was a neural lace, a sort of injectible mesh    that fits on the human brain and gives it digital computing    capabilities. Creating a neural lace is the thing that really    matters for humanity to achieve symbiosis with machines, he    tweeted on June 4, 2016.  <\/p>\n<p>    In February 2017, Musk reiterated the need for humans to become    cyborgs  through a merger of biological intelligence and    machine intelligence  to keep up with the robots that would    soon take away a huge number of jobs. During his July 15    speech, he stressed on enforcing immediate regulation of AI:    We need to be proactive about regulation instead of reactive,    he said. Because I think by the time we are reactive in AI    regulation, its too late. Governments couldnt afford to wait    until a whole bunch of bad things happen, because AI    represents a fundamental risk to the existence of    civilisation, Musk said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Is Musk alone in taking a grim view of    AI?  <\/p>\n<p>    No, Musk isnt the only one who believes unregulated AI could    be a disaster for humanity. In an AMA (Ask Me Anything) session    on Reddit earlier this year, Microsoft    co-founder Bill Gates said that in a few years, AI would be    strong enough to warrant concern. Theoretical physicist    Stephen Hawking had told the BBC in 2014 that the development    of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the    human race.  <\/p>\n<p>    Okay, but didnt Facebook panic and shut down its AI    programme this week?  <\/p>\n<p>    There have, indeed, been reports about Facebook shutting down    one of its AI programmes, apparently because things went out    of control with two chatbots that had started to talk to each    other in a language humans could not understand. The reason    Facebook shut the programme, however, was not runaway AI     rather, it was only that the programme could not have brought    any benefits to the company.  <\/p>\n<p>    The programme in question allowed bots (autonomous programmes    on a network) to communicate and negotiate with each other, in    ways similar to humans. Unveiling the programme in June 2017,    Facebook had said that these AI chatbots could create their own    sentences, and did not have to stick to a script.  <\/p>\n<p>    The problem was that the language they created to negotiate    made sense to them, but could not be understood by humans  and    was, therefore, useless. This is how the conversation between    the chat agents went:  <\/p>\n<p>    Bob: I can i i everything else  <\/p>\n<p>    Alice: balls have zero to me to me to me to me to me to me to    me to me to  <\/p>\n<p>    Bob: you i everything else  <\/p>\n<p>    Alice: balls have a ball to me to me to me to me to me to me to    me to me  <\/p>\n<p>    Finally then, does AI really pose an existential threat    to humanity?  <\/p>\n<p>    It is important to understand that most research is still in    the machine learning stage  which entails teaching these deep    neural networks (which mimic the human brain) something over    and over again, depending on the task. For example, to ensure a    programme or machine can recognise images and identify them    correctly, the machine learning exercise would involve showing    this network millions and millions of images, until it can    identify them correctly.  <\/p>\n<p>    AI is a complex subject; it would be simplistic to look at it    as all bad or all good. But robots and AI taking away    middle-class, manufacturing jobs in the not-so-distant future    is a very real prospect that will have to be addressed by    governments sooner than they probably think. Then theres the    question of removing racial\/class\/gender bias from AI-driven    programmes  Microsoft was forced to shut down its chatbot Tay    within 16 hours of launching it in March 2016 after Tay quickly    learnt, and tweeted offensive material.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the other hand, research shows AI can help identify diseases    much better, faster, and be a boon to medical research.    Self-driven cars are already here  in fact, Elon Musks Tesla    cars have an Auto-Pilot mode, which is self-driven. Apple, Google, Microsoft,    Facebook, Samsung, all are    relying on AI in some form in their products. There is little    doubt that sooner or later, discussions about its impact on    humanity will move to public, legislative and policy making    fora.  <\/p>\n<p>    For all the latest Explained    News, download Indian Express App  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the article here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/indianexpress.com\/article\/explained\/ideas-mark-zuckerberg-vs-elon-musk-or-utopia-vs-dystopia-4779524\/\" title=\"Ideas: Mark vs Musk, or utopia vs dystopia - The Indian Express\">Ideas: Mark vs Musk, or utopia vs dystopia - The Indian Express<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Written by Shruti Dhapola | Updated: August 3, 2017 10:40 am The worst nightmare in this scenario is of the creation of a new-age Frankensteins monster, a super-intelligent entity that is beyond human control. 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