{"id":208588,"date":"2017-07-29T18:50:20","date_gmt":"2017-07-29T22:50:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/howard-marks-says-bitcoin-isnt-realand-we-can-all-blame-millennials-for-its-rise-marketwatch\/"},"modified":"2017-07-29T18:50:20","modified_gmt":"2017-07-29T22:50:20","slug":"howard-marks-says-bitcoin-isnt-realand-we-can-all-blame-millennials-for-its-rise-marketwatch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/bitcoin-2\/howard-marks-says-bitcoin-isnt-realand-we-can-all-blame-millennials-for-its-rise-marketwatch\/","title":{"rendered":"Howard Marks says bitcoin isn&#8217;t realand we can all blame millennials for its rise &#8211; MarketWatch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Howard Marks has some harsh words for the bitcoin community and    the rise of digital currencies, which have become all the rage    lately.  <\/p>\n<p>    Digital currencies are nothing but an unfounded fad, said the    co-chairman of Oaktree Capital Management, who was among the    first to sound the alarm on the 2008 financial crisis.  <\/p>\n<p>    Bitcoin BTCUSD, -1.02% is based on a    willingness to ascribe value to something that has little or    none beyond what people will pay for it, wrote Marks in his    latest memo to clients.  <\/p>\n<p>    Read: Bitcoin isnt real, and markets are darn hot,    warns Howard Marks  <\/p>\n<p>    The billionaire investor believes an increasing lack of faith    in fiat currencies on top of millennials love of all things    virtual have allowed cryptocurrencies to emerge as a potential    investment tool.  <\/p>\n<p>    Maybe Im just a dinosaur, too technologically backward to    appreciate the greatness of digital currency. But it is my firm    view that the ability of these things to gain acceptance is    just one more proof of the prevalence today of financial    naivet, willing risk-taking and wishful thinking, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Marks boasts a net worth of $2 billion, according to Forbes. His investing letters are    often parsed by market participants for insightful nuggets.  <\/p>\n<p>    He freely admits he is stumped by cryptocurrencies and says he    isnt alone among savvy Wall Street investors puzzled by its    rise.  <\/p>\n<p>    But they are not real!!!!! Nobody has been able to make sense    to me of these currencies, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    One of the biggest pitfalls of bitcoin and its digital peers,    according to Marks, is that they are mostly used to buy other    imaginary money or to invest in companies that will create    other new currencies.  <\/p>\n<p>    But regardless of whether bitcoin is real or not, the more    important question posed by Marks is whether the digital    currency is suitable for investment or if it should be treated    as just another tool for speculation.  <\/p>\n<p>    Serious investing consists of buying things because the price    is attractive relative to intrinsic value, explained Marks.    Speculation, on the other hand, occurs when people buy    something without any consideration of its underlying value or    the appropriateness of its price, solely because they think    others will pay more for it in the future.  <\/p>\n<p>    Related: What are ICOs and why is the SEC taking steps    to protect investors from them?  <\/p>\n<p>    Francisco Blanch, head of global commodities and derivatives    research at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, earlier this week    also stressed that for all the buzz generated by bitcoin, it    still has some ways to go before it can be considered a legal tender.  <\/p>\n<p>    Most regulated financial institutions allow their clients to    borrow against financial or physical assets, but we are not    aware of any major institution that takes cryptocurrency as    collateral at the moment. Thus, in our view, a key step for    bitcoin would be for it to become pledgeable collateral, he    said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said cracking down on illicit    activity in cybercurrencies is a focus of regulators. I share    your concerns about bitcoin and others and them being used for    illicit activity, said Mnuchin during congressional testimony    on Thursday, referring to the recent arrest of a Russian man    accused of laundering some $4 billion using bitcoins.  <\/p>\n<p>    Meanwhile, prominent financial adviser Josh Brown, who    proclaims to idolize Marks, had a bit of an existential take on the whole    cryptocurrency debate.  <\/p>\n<p>    He agrees with Marks that bitcoin isnt real and its value is    based on nothing.  <\/p>\n<p>    But so what? he asks. Nothing is real, in truth.  <\/p>\n<p>    He goes on to argue that anything that doesnt appear in nature    may not be realeven countries, religion, and currencies.  <\/p>\n<p>    Read: Bitcoin may have reached a tipping point, now    that Downtown Josh Brown just invested  <\/p>\n<p>    Things become real enough when people begin to believe and    agree that they are. The Declaration of Independence didnt    make America real, it made people believe that it could be real    and then will it into existence with their cooperation and    their actions, said Brown.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read more from the original source:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.marketwatch.com\/story\/howard-marks-says-bitcoin-isnt-realand-we-can-all-blame-millennials-for-its-rise-2017-07-27\" title=\"Howard Marks says bitcoin isn't realand we can all blame millennials for its rise - MarketWatch\">Howard Marks says bitcoin isn't realand we can all blame millennials for its rise - MarketWatch<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Howard Marks has some harsh words for the bitcoin community and the rise of digital currencies, which have become all the rage lately.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/bitcoin-2\/howard-marks-says-bitcoin-isnt-realand-we-can-all-blame-millennials-for-its-rise-marketwatch\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94873],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-208588","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bitcoin-2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208588"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=208588"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208588\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=208588"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=208588"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=208588"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}