{"id":208119,"date":"2017-07-26T16:29:36","date_gmt":"2017-07-26T20:29:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/elon-musk-dismisses-mark-zuckerbergs-understanding-of-ai-threat-as-limited-the-verge\/"},"modified":"2017-07-26T16:29:36","modified_gmt":"2017-07-26T20:29:36","slug":"elon-musk-dismisses-mark-zuckerbergs-understanding-of-ai-threat-as-limited-the-verge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/superintelligence\/elon-musk-dismisses-mark-zuckerbergs-understanding-of-ai-threat-as-limited-the-verge\/","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk dismisses Mark Zuckerberg&#8217;s understanding of AI threat as &#8216;limited&#8217; &#8211; The Verge"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The war between AI and humanity may be a long way off, but the    war between tech billionaire and tech billionaire is only just    beginning. Today on Twitter, Elon Musk dismissed Mark    Zuckerbergs understanding of the threat posed by artificial    intelligence as limited,    after the Facebook founder disparaged comments Musk made on the    subject earlier this month.  <\/p>\n<p>    The beef (such as it is) goes back to a speech the SpaceX and    Tesla CEO made to     an assembly of US governors. Musk warned that there needed    to be regulation on AI development before its too late. I    keep sounding the alarm bell, but until people see robots going    down the street killing people, they dont know how to react,    because it seems so ethereal, he said, adding that the    technology represents a fundamental risk to the existence of    civilization.  <\/p>\n<p>    Are both Musk and Zuckerberg missing the point?  <\/p>\n<p>    Its a familiar refrain from Musk, and one that doesnt hold    much water within the AI community. Pedro Domingos, a machine    learning researcher and author of The Master    Algorithm, summed up the feelings of many with a one    word response on Twitter: Sigh. Later, Domingos expanded    on this in an interview with     Wired, saying: Many of us have    tried to educate [Musk] and others like him about real vs.    imaginary dangers of AI, but apparently none of it has made a    dent.  <\/p>\n<p>    Fast-forward to this Sunday, when Zuckerberg was running one of    his totally-normal-and-not-running-for-political-office        Facebook Live Q&As. At around 50 minutes in, a viewer    asks Zuckerberg: I watched a recent interview with Elon Musk    and his largest fear for the future was AI. What are your    thoughts on AI and how it could affect the world?  <\/p>\n<p>    Zuck responds: I have pretty strong opinions on this ... I    think you can build things and the world gets better, and with    AI especially, Im really optimistic. I think people who are    naysayers and try to drum up these doomsday scenarios are  I    just, I don't understand it. It's really negative and in some    ways I think it is pretty irresponsible.  <\/p>\n<p>    He goes on to predict that in the next five to 10 years AI will    deliver so many improvements in the quality of our lives, and    cites health care and self-driving cars as two major examples.    People who are arguing for slowing down the process of    building AI, I find that really questionable, Zuckerberg    concludes. If youre arguing against AI youre arguing against    safer cars that arent going to have accidents.  <\/p>\n<p>    Someone then posted a write-up of Zuckerbergs Q&A on    Twitter and tagged Musk, who jumped into the conversation with    the comment below. Musk also linked    approvingly to an article on the threat of superintelligent    AI by Tim Urban. (The article covers much of the same ground as    Nick Bostroms influential book Superintelligence: Paths,    Dangers, Strategies. Both discuss a number of ways    contemporary AI could develop into super-intelligence,    including through exponential growth in computing power     something Musk later    tweeted about.)  <\/p>\n<p>    But as fun as it is to watch two extremely rich people, who    probably wield more influence over your life than most    politicians, trade barbs online, its hard to shake the feeling    that both Musk and Zuckerberg are missing the point.  <\/p>\n<p>    While AI researchers dismiss Musks comments on AI as alarmist,    thats only in reference to the imagined threat of some    Skynet-style doomsday machine. The same experts frequently    point out that artificial intelligence poses many genuine    threats that already affect us today. These include how the    technology can     amplify racist and sexist prejudices; how it could     upend society by putting millions out of jobs; how it is    set to     increase inequality; and how it will be used as tool of    control by     authoritarian governments.  <\/p>\n<p>    These are real dangers that need real solutions, not just    sci-fi speculation.  <\/p>\n<p>    And while Zuckerbergs comments on the potential benefits of AI    in health care and road safety are heartening, focusing only on    the good that artificial intelligence can deliver is  in its    own way  as limited as focusing only on the threat. Really, we    need to combine both Musk and Zuckerbergs approaches, and    probably listen less to tech billionaires in the process.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the article here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2017\/7\/25\/16024444\/ai-safety-threat-elon-musk-mark-zuckerberg\" title=\"Elon Musk dismisses Mark Zuckerberg's understanding of AI threat as 'limited' - The Verge\">Elon Musk dismisses Mark Zuckerberg's understanding of AI threat as 'limited' - The Verge<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The war between AI and humanity may be a long way off, but the war between tech billionaire and tech billionaire is only just beginning. Today on Twitter, Elon Musk dismissed Mark Zuckerbergs understanding of the threat posed by artificial intelligence as limited, after the Facebook founder disparaged comments Musk made on the subject earlier this month. The beef (such as it is) goes back to a speech the SpaceX and Tesla CEO made to an assembly of US governors.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/superintelligence\/elon-musk-dismisses-mark-zuckerbergs-understanding-of-ai-threat-as-limited-the-verge\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187765],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-208119","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-superintelligence"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208119"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=208119"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208119\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=208119"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=208119"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=208119"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}