{"id":208066,"date":"2017-07-26T16:17:37","date_gmt":"2017-07-26T20:17:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/the-pro-trump-media-is-full-of-offensive-memes-and-trolls-but-is-it-a-hate-group-buzzfeed-news\/"},"modified":"2017-07-26T16:17:37","modified_gmt":"2017-07-26T20:17:37","slug":"the-pro-trump-media-is-full-of-offensive-memes-and-trolls-but-is-it-a-hate-group-buzzfeed-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/memetics\/the-pro-trump-media-is-full-of-offensive-memes-and-trolls-but-is-it-a-hate-group-buzzfeed-news\/","title":{"rendered":"The Pro-Trump Media Is Full Of Offensive Memes And Trolls, But Is It A Hate Group? &#8211; BuzzFeed News"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    On July 19, the Anti-Defamation League kicked the pro-Trump    media hornets nest with the publication of a new report    cataloging the factions of the alt-right and their key voices.    It also prompted the question: How do you classify a hate group    in 2017?  <\/p>\n<p>    Titled From Alt Right to Alt Lite: Naming The Hate,\" the ADL    report attempts to define those movements, noting the    meaningful differences between the two and listing 36    personalities closely associated with them. For example, the    moniker alt-lite was coined by the alt-right in order to    differentiate itself from those in the pro-Trump world who    denounce white supremacist ideology.<\/p>\n<p>    The report's publication sparked near-immediate outrage from    some of those who were included. New Right personality Mike    Cernovich lambasted the ADLs report as a hit list of    political opponents,\" alleging that by including him on a list    of hate leaders, the organization had made him and his family    targets of an intolerant and violent left that murder[s] those    the ADL disagrees with politically.\" Jack Posobiec, a pro-Trump    Twitter personality, took an equally combative stance. On    vacation in Poland, he tweeted a short video from Auschwitz.    \"It would be wise of the ADL to remember the history of what    happened the last time people started going around making lists    of undesirables,\" he said, panning the camera across the    concentration camp.  <\/p>\n<p>    Over the next few days, the controversy gathered considerable    momentum on Twitter. Cernovichs followers tweeted prayers for    the safety of him and his family, and condemned the ADL.    Gateway Pundit founder Jim Hoft called the organizations    report a death list, while his White House reporter, Lucian    Wintrich, decried the ADL as a liberal terrorist    organization. Rebel Medias Gavin McInnes  named on the list    along with Wintrich  threatened to sue the living shit out of    everyone even remotely involved. The hashtag #ADLterror    trended for a few hours. Last week, Republican Senate candidate    and Ohio Treasurer Josh Mandel jumped into the controversy,        siding with Cernovich and chastising the ADL.  <\/p>\n<p>    But beneath all the murk and outrage and alt-right\/alt-lite\/New    Right semantics was a reasonable question: In the Trump era,    where is the line between hate speech and the extremist, often    outlandish, conspiracy-propagating messaging of those    movements?  <\/p>\n<p>    For Cernovich  who played a role in the Twitter propagation of    the #Pizzagate conspiracy and has a history of tweeting    incendiary opinions from everything from date rape and    immigration (much of which he has argued was clear satire)     the line doesn't fall anywhere near him. He argues that, while    his statements might not be politically correct or always in    good taste, they aren't hate speech, and certainly dont make    him a member of a hate group.  <\/p>\n<p>    What does the ADL have on me? Some satirical tweets, hell,    even some mean tweets and stuff I'm not proud of? Cernovich    told BuzzFeed News in response to the report. I have a lot of    liberal friends. Many of them in high places. They think I'm an    asshole, but 'hate group' has them livid.  <\/p>\n<p>    Cernovich insists hes being unfairly targeted for his    pro-Trump views. \"This tweet mining bullshit is only used on    the right,\" he argued. In his view, the New Right is a movement    defined not by discrimination or hateful rhetoric, but by    pugnacious political commentary and debate. It is nothing, he    says, like the alt-right of Richard Spencer, which hews toward    a race-based white nationalism. As with Trump himself, the New    Rights true ideology isnt always clear, and the group tends    to behave more as a pro-Trump media arm than as an ideological    group. Its main target isnt a protected race or religion, but    the mainstream media. It doesnt behave quite like any    traditional hate group. So can it be called one?  <\/p>\n<p>    In an interview with BuzzFeed News, the ADL argued that it most    certainly can. I don't think irony and self-promotion is an    excuse for bigotry of any kind, whether its misogyny or any    other form of bigotry, said Oren Segal, who runs the ADL's    Center on Extremism. Doing it in a way that's more modern or    tech-y doesn't make it OK  nor does it make it any less    difficult for those who've been impacted.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"I don't think irony and self-promotion is an excuse for    bigotry of any kind.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Segal noted that the alt-lite or New Right  while not    particularly well-defined as a movement  includes individuals    with extremist views. \"These are people who are on the record    with anti-Muslim bigotry and hatred and misogyny  people who    support trolling, he said in defense of the ADLs report.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jeff Giesea, an entrepreneur and consultant who     helped organize the pro-Trump DeploraBall  an inaugural    ball to celebrate the work of the pro-Trump internet  sees the    ADLs decision to categorize the New Right as hate group    personalities as a bridge too far. Based on the ADL's logic,    all 63 million Americans who voted for Trump should be on their    hate list. If everyone is an extremist, no one is, he told    BuzzFeed News.  <\/p>\n<p>    Giesea argues that, historically, Cernovichs views are quite    moderate. Perhaps more importantly, he contends that the New    Rights strategy  to promote a pro-Trump agenda via an    ongoing, meme-fueled assault on the mainstream media  is a new    kind of political discourse.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"By being so quick to label something 'bigotry,' the ADL is    getting in the way of the healthy exchange of ideas, Giesea    said. It pushes people further right by pathologizing common    sense. It is a mode of social control that simply doesn't work    in the age of social media.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Based on the ADL's logic, all 63 million Americans who voted    for Trump should be on their hate list.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Since the beginning of the 2016 election our political    discourse has become increasingly fraught, muddied by    misinformation and trolling from the fringes of both sides of    the aisle. And within this morass, a reflex has emerged on both    sides to reflexively label political disagreements as signs of    hate. Back in April, the internet     erupted over Cernovich and another pro-Trump reporter    flashing the \"OK\" sign at the podium in the White House    Briefing Room. A number of news outlets misidentified the sign    as a white power symbol, falling for a trap laid by pro-Trump    trolls who had been trying to trick the media into thinking the    meaningless symbol had nefarious origins. The incident sparked    a defamation lawsuit filed by one of the pro-Trump reporters,    as well as an existential argument around when exactly a symbol    morphs from an ironic troll to a real sign of hate.  <\/p>\n<p>    Giesea has run this over in his mind frequently, and argues    that theres more nuance and craft to the pro-Trump movements    tactics. \"Memetics is a form of art,\" he said. Shock and    controversy is what makes memes effective. They push moral    boundaries. Sometimes this is healthy and can challenge certain    narratives, other times it can feel toxic and juvenile. Think    about it - what memes would Voltaire share?\" Giesea concedes    that there are moral considerations to social media behavior,    but suggests that the ADL list feels like an act of political    warfare, rather than a good faith attempt to discuss these    issues.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Ultimately, the problem appears to be definitional. For Heidi    Beirich, the director of the Southern Poverty Law Centers    Intelligence Project, the alt-right and alt-lite movements may    be fluid, but the definition of hate is not. Beirich says the    SPLC follows roughly the same standards for defining hate    groups as the     FBI uses for hate crimes. In a recent     op-ed for Huffington Post, SPLC President Richard Cohen    defined a hate group as those that have beliefs or practices    that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for    their immutable characteristics.  <\/p>\n<p>    We don't care as much about the pro-Trump stuff, Beirich told    BuzzFeed News. It's the specific policies we're worried about     whether it's anti-Muslim or anti-immigrant. For example, she    noted that despite articles with anti-immigrant sentiment,    we're not going to list a publication like Breitbart as a hate    group unless they publish much more stuff thats much further    over the line.  <\/p>\n<p>    In trying to categorize the Cernoviches and Posobiecs of the    world, Beirich said its best to categorize them on a    case-by-case basis, remembering that hate speech isn't    necessarily the only (or most) relevant category. Take    Pizzagate, she said. We've written about anti-government    conspiracy theorists since the 1990s and that's a different    thing than our hate lists  it doesnt excuse the behavior, but    its different.  <\/p>\n<p>    The ADL sees no such difference and, on its Naming the Hate    report, is standing its ground. To Segal, the fact that the    behavior of the New Right doesnt follow the established    patterns of other fringe movements is reason enough to worry    about its evolution and growth. In a sense this rhetoric is    potentially more harmful because it's not so clearly being    promoted as hate, he told BuzzFeed News. I think we can see    through that. If they call it a joke, we're not laughing.  <\/p>\n<p>      Charlie Warzel is a senior writer for BuzzFeed News and is      based in New York. Warzel reports on and writes about the      intersection of tech and culture.    <\/p>\n<p>      Contact Charlie Warzel at <a href=\"mailto:charlie.warzel@buzzfeed.com\">charlie.warzel@buzzfeed.com<\/a>.    <\/p>\n<p>    Got a confidential tip? Submit it here.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to read the rest:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzfeed.com\/charliewarzel\/the-pro-trump-media-is-full-of-offensive-memes-and-trolls\" title=\"The Pro-Trump Media Is Full Of Offensive Memes And Trolls, But Is It A Hate Group? - BuzzFeed News\">The Pro-Trump Media Is Full Of Offensive Memes And Trolls, But Is It A Hate Group? - BuzzFeed News<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> On July 19, the Anti-Defamation League kicked the pro-Trump media hornets nest with the publication of a new report cataloging the factions of the alt-right and their key voices. It also prompted the question: How do you classify a hate group in 2017? Titled From Alt Right to Alt Lite: Naming The Hate,\" the ADL report attempts to define those movements, noting the meaningful differences between the two and listing 36 personalities closely associated with them.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/memetics\/the-pro-trump-media-is-full-of-offensive-memes-and-trolls-but-is-it-a-hate-group-buzzfeed-news\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187741],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-208066","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-memetics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208066"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=208066"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208066\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=208066"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=208066"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=208066"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}