{"id":205055,"date":"2017-07-11T22:38:00","date_gmt":"2017-07-12T02:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/turnbull-is-right-to-link-the-liberals-with-the-centre-but-is-the-centre-where-it-used-to-be-the-conversation-au\/"},"modified":"2017-07-11T22:38:00","modified_gmt":"2017-07-12T02:38:00","slug":"turnbull-is-right-to-link-the-liberals-with-the-centre-but-is-the-centre-where-it-used-to-be-the-conversation-au","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/liberal\/turnbull-is-right-to-link-the-liberals-with-the-centre-but-is-the-centre-where-it-used-to-be-the-conversation-au\/","title":{"rendered":"Turnbull is right to link the Liberals with the centre  but is the centre where it used to be? &#8211; The Conversation AU"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>  Malcolm Turnbulls speech reminded his Liberal colleagues that he  has not stolen the party and his leadership is legitimately  Liberal.<\/p>\n<p>    It is a sign of how serious the divisions have become in the    Liberal Party that speaking the truth about Robert Menzies is        now depicted as making a provocative attack on the Liberal    right.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet that is the situation in which Malcolm Turnbull found    himself after giving his     Disraeli Prize speech in London. As Turnbull pointed out in    that speech, Menzies intentionally avoided calling the new    party conservative in case that gave rise to misconceptions.    Rather, Turnbull     cites Menzies statement that they:  <\/p>\n<p>       took the name Liberal because we were determined to be a      progressive party, willing to make experiments, in no sense      reactionary but believing in the individual, his right and      his enterprise, and rejecting the socialist panacea.    <\/p>\n<p>    As the leading academic expert on Robert Menzies,     Judith Brett, has pointed out, Menzies recognised when the    party was founded in 1944 that there was a strong public    sentiment in favour of building a progressive, new post-war    society that was far better than the old.  <\/p>\n<p>    In other words, it was a party that pledged to reject    socialism, but wouldnt necessarily stand in the path of social    progress.  <\/p>\n<p>    In short, Turnbull is attempting to reclaim both Menzies and    the Liberal Party he played a key role in founding, for a    centrist rather than reactionary position. He is gently taking    issue with Tony Abbott and those     conservatives in the party who have focused on undermining,    rather than working with him, regardless of     the damage this might do to the partys electoral    prospects.  <\/p>\n<p>    I say gently because, as even the arch-conservative Eric Abetz        acknowledges, Turnbull also cites Tony Abbotts earlier    phrase that the     sensible centre is the place to be. Nonetheless, Turnbull    is reminding such conservatives that he has not stolen the    party, and his leadership is legitimately Liberal.  <\/p>\n<p>    There is a long tradition of attempting to appeal to the centre    in Australian politics, not least in the hope that centrist    politicians will be able to harvest votes from both major    parties. Turnbull can legitimately argue that many of the    small-l liberal positions he is associated with (despite his    more recent     concessions to the right) are in line with popular opinion.        Same-sex marriage is an obvious case in point.  <\/p>\n<p>    There was also a     vibrant small-l liberal tradition on issues such as    homosexuality in the party in the 1970s, prior to John Howards    conservative ascendancy.  <\/p>\n<p>    Nonetheless, there were some elephants in the room in London    when Turnbull gave his speech.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is open to debate what a modern Menzian position would be    in regard to issues such as same-sex marriage or racial    equality. After all, Menzies, like Labor prime ministers John    Curtin and Ben Chifley before him, continued to support the        White Australia Policy. Male homosexuality was illegal    under state law for all of Menzies prime ministership.  <\/p>\n<p>    Turnbull     refers to Menzies forgotten people. However, the famous    speech in    which Menzies articulated that concept assumed (as Curtin and    Chifley also did) that employees would continue to be    predominantly male, and women would largely be in the home.  <\/p>\n<p>    Turnbull clearly assumes that a modern sensible centre    position would have kept pace with changing social attitudes.    But at least on some issues, other Liberals will disagree.  <\/p>\n<p>    The bigger elephant in the room is the issue of Menzies    economic beliefs at the time the Liberal Party was founded, and    what a modern day centrist position on economic policy would    be. After all, contemporary Australian voters seem to be    concerned about their economic futures, the power of big    business, and cuts to     social services.  <\/p>\n<p>    Turnbull does briefly     acknowledge in his speech that, by modern standards,    Menzies:  <\/p>\n<p>       was hardly an economic liberal. He believed in a highly      regulated economy with high tariffs, a fixed exchange rate,      centralised wage fixing and generally much more Government      involvement in the economy than we would be comfortable with.    <\/p>\n<p>    Indeed, Menzies was more of a Keynesian    economically, not a market liberal like Turnbull.  <\/p>\n<p>    Furthermore, Menzies characterised    the middle class as the forgotten people partly because he    believed that unskilled workers were not forgotten but were    already well-protected by unions and had their wages and    conditions safeguarded by popular law. Meanwhile, the rich    were able to protect themselves.  <\/p>\n<p>    While strongly supporting individual endeavour, he argued    that the new politics should not return to the old and selfish    notions of laissez-faire. Rather, our social and industrial    laws will be increased. There will be more law, not less; more    control, not less.  <\/p>\n<p>    Menzies was strongly anti-communist and anti-socialist, but he    was not a     neoliberal.  <\/p>\n<p>    Voters could be forgiven for thinking that at least some of    Menzies words sound more like those of the contemporary Labor    Party than the modern-day Liberal Party. The Liberal Party    itself acknowledges that    a belief in social equality was one of the principles on    which the party was founded.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, despite some concessions in this years budget,    Turnbull may have his work cut out trying to convince centrist    voters that his economic liberalism can adequately address    todays scourge of     rising inequality.     Keynesian-influenced solutions are on the rise again in the    wake of the global financial crisis.  <\/p>\n<p>    Turnbull     argued in his speech that the terms left and right had    begun to lose all meaning. However, there is another, more    unpalatable truth that he may need to face. It may be more that    left and right are moving conceptually, because the    centre has shifted too.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>More here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/theconversation.com\/turnbull-is-right-to-link-the-liberals-with-the-centre-but-is-the-centre-where-it-used-to-be-80799\" title=\"Turnbull is right to link the Liberals with the centre  but is the centre where it used to be? - The Conversation AU\">Turnbull is right to link the Liberals with the centre  but is the centre where it used to be? - The Conversation AU<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Malcolm Turnbulls speech reminded his Liberal colleagues that he has not stolen the party and his leadership is legitimately Liberal. It is a sign of how serious the divisions have become in the Liberal Party that speaking the truth about Robert Menzies is now depicted as making a provocative attack on the Liberal right <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/liberal\/turnbull-is-right-to-link-the-liberals-with-the-centre-but-is-the-centre-where-it-used-to-be-the-conversation-au\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187824],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-205055","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liberal"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/205055"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=205055"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/205055\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=205055"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=205055"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=205055"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}