{"id":204707,"date":"2017-07-10T19:59:35","date_gmt":"2017-07-10T23:59:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/empiricism-versus-rationalism\/"},"modified":"2017-07-10T19:59:35","modified_gmt":"2017-07-10T23:59:35","slug":"empiricism-versus-rationalism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/rationalism\/empiricism-versus-rationalism\/","title":{"rendered":"Empiricism versus Rationalism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Empiricism v. rationalism  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    THE    EMPIRICISTS: Empiricists    share the view that there is no such thing as innate knowledge,    and that instead knowledge is derived from experience (either    sensed via the five senses or reasoned via the brain or    mind). Locke, Berkeley, and Hume are    empiricists (though they have very different views about    metaphysics).  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    The    rationalists:    Rationalists share the view that there is innate    knowledge; they differ in that they choose different objects of    innate knowledge. Plato is a rationalist    because he thinks that we have innate knowledge of the Forms    [mathematical objects and concepts (triangles, equality,    largeness), moral concepts (goodness, beauty, virtue, piety),    and possibly color  he doesnt ever explicitly state that    there are Forms of colors]; Descartes thinks that    the idea of God, or perfection and infinity, and knowledge of    my own existence is innate; G.W. Leibniz thinks that logical    principles are innate; and Noam Chomsky thinks that the ability    to use language (e.g., language rules) is innate.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Empiricism (In favor of Empiricism, against    Rationalism):  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    1.    Empiricism is Simpler: Compared to    Empiricism, Rationalism has one more entity that    exists: Innate knowledge.    According to the Empiricist, the innate knowledge is    unobservable and inefficacious; that is, it does not do    anything. The knowledge may sit there, never    being used. Using Ockhams Razor (= when deciding between    competing theories that explain the same phenomena, the simpler    theory is better),1 Empiricism is the better    theory.  <\/p>\n<p>    2.    Colors:    How would you know what the color blue looks like if you    were born blind? The only way to come to    have the idea of blue is to experience it with your senses.    (This objection only works possibly against Plato; see the    introduction above again to see why this objection would not    faze Descartes, Leibniz, or Chomsky.)      <\/p>\n<p>    3.    Imagination and    Experience: How can we get    the idea of perfect triangularity?    We can extrapolate from our experience with crooked,    sensible triangles and use our imagination to straighten out    what is crooked and see what perfect triangularity    is.   <\/p>\n<p>    4.    Rationalists have been Wrong about Their Innate    Knowledge: Some medieval    rationalists claimed that the notion of a vacuum was rationally    absurd and hence it was impossible for one to    exist. However, we have shown that it is    possible.2 Reason is not the only    way to discover the truth about a matter.       <\/p>\n<p>    5.    The Advance of    Science: Much    of science is founded on empiricist principles, and would not    have advanced without it. If we base our    conclusions about the world on empiricism, we can change our    theories and improve upon them and see our    mistakes. A rationalist seems to have to say    that weve discovered innate knowledge and then be embarrassed    if he or she is ever wrong (see examples such as the vacuum,    above).   <\/p>\n<p>    6.    All Rationalists do Not Agree about Innate    Knowledge: Rationalists    claim that there is innate knowledge that gives us fundamental    truths about reality, but even among rationalists (e.g., Plato,    who believes in reincarnation and Forms and Descartes, who does    not believe in either but does believe in a soul), there    is disagreement about the nature of reality, the self,    etc. How can this be, if there is innate    knowledge of these things?  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Rationalism (In favor of Rationalism, against    Empiricism):  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    1.    Math and Logic are    Innate: Doesnt it seem    that mathematical and logical truths are true not because of    our five senses, but because of reasons ability to connect    ideas?  <\/p>\n<p>    2.    Morality is    Innate: How do we get a    sense of what right and wrong are with our five    senses? Since we cannot experience things    like justice, human rights, moral duties, moral good and evil    with our five senses, what can the empiricists ethical theory    like? Hume (an empiricist) says morality is    based solely on emotions; Locke says experience can provide us    with data to show what is morally right and wrong, but does it    seem that way to you?  <\/p>\n<p>    3.    Verifying    Empiricism: Locke (an    empiricist) says that our experiences tell us about the nature    of reality, but how can we ever check our experience with what    reality really is, in order to know that?    Rationalists do not think we can, so we have to rely on    reason.  <\/p>\n<p>    4.    Poverty of Stimulus    Problem: Three year olds    use language in ways that they are not explicitly    taught. For example, they form original    sentences from words that they havent heard put together in    precisely that way before. Also, they start    to understand grammatical rules before they even know what a    noun or a verb is. If we can only say what    weve heard said by others, how can three year olds speak as    well as they do? This is known as the    poverty of stimulus problem. You may think    that Rationalism is strange, but it does a better job of    explaining this problem than Empiricism. One    way of choosing which of two theories is better (in addition to    or instead of Ockhams Razor  see    Empiricism point #1 above) is asking, Which theory explains    the phenomena better?1      <\/p>\n<p>    5.    Empiricism Undermines    Creativity?    According to Empiricism, you can combine things, separate them,    and nothing else. With Rationalism, we come    to experience with ready-made tools for    creativity. E.g., Plato would say that were    in touch with abstract, immutable realities, which provide lots    of material with which to create.  <\/p>\n<p>    6.    Controllable    Humans? According to    Empiricism, human beings can be controlled and    manipulated    exceptionally    easily. If we are nothing other than what we    experience, then we should be able to be made to do whatever    were taught. Rationalism has it that there    is an invariable core (call it human nature) that refuses to    be manipulated, which is what makes us unique.      <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Notes:  <\/p>\n<p>        1 I hasten to add that Ockham's Razor is simply a    rule of thumb, and that I would recommend that the reader track    down an excellent paper by Elliot Sober, entitled, \"Let's Razor    Ockham's Razor,\" wherein he demonstrates that if one uses    Ockham's razor in a certain case of evolutionary biology, one    will choose the wrong theory to explain the phenomena, because    the situation is more complex than it may seem. I am persuaded    by this argument and think we should not use Ockham's razor; I    have it here because people seem to like using it, but    hopefully they will be persuaded by Dr. Sober's argument as I    am.    2 I have recently seen an episode of \"Through the    Wormhole\" with God, I mean, Morgan Freeman, and scientists have    apparently discovered that, even in a vaccum, there are some    sort of subatomic particles there, so there is no such thing as    nothing, or that even nothing is something.<\/p>\n<p>     2013 by David J. 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Locke, Berkeley, and Hume are empiricists (though they have very different views about metaphysics).  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/rationalism\/empiricism-versus-rationalism\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187714],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-204707","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-rationalism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/204707"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=204707"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/204707\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=204707"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=204707"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=204707"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}