{"id":203154,"date":"2017-07-03T08:00:29","date_gmt":"2017-07-03T12:00:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/freedom-of-speech-does-mean-freedom-from-consequences\/"},"modified":"2017-07-03T08:00:29","modified_gmt":"2017-07-03T12:00:29","slug":"freedom-of-speech-does-mean-freedom-from-consequences","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/freedom-of-speech\/freedom-of-speech-does-mean-freedom-from-consequences\/","title":{"rendered":"Freedom of speech does mean freedom from consequences &#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    A favorite retort from those who believe in policing the speech    of others is:  <\/p>\n<p>      Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.    <\/p>\n<p>    This has become a thought terminating cliche for many which    prevents deeper consideration of the ethics and morality    involved.  <\/p>\n<p>    Unless there is some way to make certain actions physically    impossible, the way to prevent people from performing these    actions is to inflict consequences on those who do so. We    cannot make murder impossible so, instead, we punish those who    murder. The idea is that the threat of punishment will make    people restrict their own behavior.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is exactly the same with speech. We cannot actually prevent    forbidden words and ideas from being uttered. Instead, speech    is restricted by inflicting consequences on those who utter    them. The intention is to make people self-censor, to restrict    their own speech in order to avoid punishment.  <\/p>\n<p>    This is how governments police speech. Yes, some have enough    control over the media to prevent things being published but,    even then, they are still not able to prevent individuals from    saying those things.  <\/p>\n<p>    When we talk about restrictions on speech we are talking about    applying consequences to speech. If saying certain words or    expressing certain ideas is punished then speech is not free,    restrictions have been applied. Therefore, freedom of speech    does mean freedom from consequences.  <\/p>\n<p>    Those who recite the idea that \"freedom of speech does not mean    freedom from consequences\" really mean \"freedom of speech    only means freedom from consequences    inflicted by the government.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    It's really just another way to say \"it's only censorship if    the government does it.\" This thinking is usually supported by    pointing to the US constitution and explaining that the first    amendment only says that the government cannot restrict speech.    However, this is only a specific protection of freedom of    speech, not a definition of the concept.  <\/p>\n<p>    The US constitution defines only the rules the US government    must operate under so naturally its protection of freedom of    speech is limited to attacks from the US government.  <\/p>\n<p>    If you justify restricting the speech of others with arguments    based on the limitations of the US constitution then you don't    actually believe in freedom of speech. You just believe in the    constitution.  <\/p>\n<p>    Freedom of speech is more than an amendment. It's a principle,    that those with power over us should not use that power to    restrict what we can say and, similarly, if we have power over    others, our power should not be used to restrict what they can    say.  <\/p>\n<p>    The government is not the only thing with power over us. If you    can inflict consequences, you have power. If you can pressure    someone's employer into firing them, you have power over them.  <\/p>\n<p>    Does this mean that we cannot respond to speech in ways which    might negatively affect the speaker? Of course not. If someone    says something you find distasteful then you have every right    to judge them for it and express and act on that judgement.    What crosses the line is action deliberately intended to punish    the speaker and make people afraid of repeating the speech.  <\/p>\n<p>    Obviously this only relates to speech in public. It's perfectly    reasonable to police speech in your home or business, although    even then the consequences should be limited in scope to your    home or business. If someone uses racist language in your    house, there's no issue with you telling them that they are no    longer welcome. What is not reasonable is calling their    employer to tell them what they said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yes there are grey areas. Is it reasonable to tell mutual    friends about their behavior and have them ostracized from the    group? Maybe. However, much of what internet activists are    doing is well outside of these grey areas.  <\/p>\n<p>    Am I saying that there should be laws preventing people from    punishing speech? Am I saying that there need to be punishments    for those who punish the speech of others? No. This is not    about legality. It is about ethnics and morality. It is about    what should not be done, not what must not be done.  <\/p>\n<p>    Those who point out that these internet activists are merely    exercising their own freedom of speech are right but that does    not mean what they are doing is not despicable. Someone who    uses racial epithets is exercising their freedom of speech but    their behavior is not morally defensible.  <\/p>\n<p>    Basically:  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the original post here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/FeMRADebates\/comments\/3zdmo2\/freedom_of_speech_does_mean_freedom_from\/\" title=\"Freedom of speech does mean freedom from consequences ...\">Freedom of speech does mean freedom from consequences ...<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> A favorite retort from those who believe in policing the speech of others is: Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. This has become a thought terminating cliche for many which prevents deeper consideration of the ethics and morality involved. 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