{"id":203121,"date":"2017-07-03T07:42:13","date_gmt":"2017-07-03T11:42:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/living-to-125-and-beyond-scientists-dispute-theres-a-limit-to-our-lifespans-kfor-com\/"},"modified":"2017-07-03T07:42:13","modified_gmt":"2017-07-03T11:42:13","slug":"living-to-125-and-beyond-scientists-dispute-theres-a-limit-to-our-lifespans-kfor-com","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/immortality-medicine\/living-to-125-and-beyond-scientists-dispute-theres-a-limit-to-our-lifespans-kfor-com\/","title":{"rendered":"Living to 125 and beyond: Scientists dispute there&#8217;s a limit to our lifespans &#8211; kfor.com"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Dont mess with our collective dreams of immortality. A flurry    of new research vigorously opposes a study from last year that    dared to suggest there might be a ceiling to the human    lifespan.  <\/p>\n<p>    In one new paper, Dutch scientists predict, by 2070, our    lifespan may increase to 125 years while, beyond that, the sky    may be the limit. Their analysis was published Wednesday in        the journal Nature.  <\/p>\n<p>    The debate over     his original paper, published last October in Nature and    widely reported by     CNN and other media outlets, took Jan Vijg, senior author,    by surprise.  <\/p>\n<p>    For a biologist, a natural limit to the lifespan makes a lot    of sense, so thats why I never imagined the paper would stir    up so much comment, said Vijg, a professor at Albert Einstein    College of Medicine in New York.  <\/p>\n<p>    New analysis  <\/p>\n<p>    To prove a 125-year lifespan is possible, researchers from the    Netherlands Interdisciplinary Demographic Institute team began    their study by refuting the relationship between age and    immortality posed by     Benjamin Gompertz.  <\/p>\n<p>    This 19th-century mathematician pored over mortality data and    noticed young people have a very low chance of dying. Yet, in    middle age, the chance of dying increases and then rises again    dramatically in old age.  <\/p>\n<p>    This exponential increase in the rate of human mortality has    long been accepted wisdom, yet the Dutch researchers decided to    challenge it. Instead of basing their work on data derived from    the general population, they used data from a group of people    noted for their long lives  Japanese women.  <\/p>\n<p>    Using mathematical models, they claim mortality goes down in    old age and projected an astounding new human lifespan  125    years  will be achieved by 2070.  <\/p>\n<p>    Along with this theory, an additional four separate papers poke    holes in Vijgs work.     A Canadian team of scientists claims Vijgs original paper    is based on statistically noisy (or meaningless) data.    Meanwhile,     a research team from the University of Copenhagen argues    any inferences about lifespan potential are premature;     a team from the Max Planck Institute claims theres simply    no evidence of a looming limit; and     a team from the University of Groningen offers four    cohesive arguments contesting the conclusions drawn by Vijgs    team.  <\/p>\n<p>    What inspired this heated debate?  <\/p>\n<p>    Record-breakers  <\/p>\n<p>    In their paper, Vijg and his graduate students, Xiao Dong and    Brandon Milholland, analyzed aging trends in the United States,    the United Kingdom, France and Japan.  <\/p>\n<p>    Vijg explained their analysis was based not on some    mathematical model that projected future data but on actual    data of real human lives. They examined not one but two    different data sets, and what they observed was, despite life    expectancy being dramatically higher than it was 100 years ago,    the probability of anyone living for more than 125 years was    unlikely.  <\/p>\n<p>    Initially, you see this increase every year, and you see this    oldest record holder until the 1990s and then it stops, Vijg    said. Think about it, how strange it is.  <\/p>\n<p>    The number of healthy centenarians increased dramatically every    year. That being the case, Vijg theorized the supply is    certainly there to create more record-breakers, every year,    yet there were none.  <\/p>\n<p>    Vijg wondered How is that possible? A decades-long plateau    following years of new old-age records must mean humans have    reached the lifespan limit, he and his colleagues concluded.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is a rather logical conclusion for biologists, who have long    seen individual animal species each have a particular span of    time in which they are born, develop into maturity and then    die, Vijg explained.  <\/p>\n<p>    When Jeanne Calment    died, I really thought that this was the beginning of    something very dramatic, Vijg said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Calment died in 1997 at age 122, which remains the greatest    fully authenticated age to which any human has ever lived,    according to     Guinness World Records.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hearing about Calments long life, Vijg rebelled against the    accepted wisdom that lifespan must be fixed, it must be like a    ceiling.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet, testing the theory, Vijg and his co-authors found no fresh    old-age record breakers. Sure, the Canadian scientists who    created a mathematical model found random plateaus, some seven    years long  but still their research fails to explain a    plateau of decades, Vijg said.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Canadian scientists may believe their research disproves    his but, instead, it is a beautiful confirmation of what we    found, he said.  <\/p>\n<p>    They want us to be wrong, said Vijg, who with his colleagues    published     a rebuttal to all the criticism. I can see that its very    depressing when you find out that we can never get older than    115 years on average.  <\/p>\n<p>    Vijg, though, is not a depressed man.  <\/p>\n<p>    He said hes seen the tremendous strides made in all scientific    fields as well as technology and hopes someday the aging    process might be halted.  <\/p>\n<p>    We may be able to do that at some point, as I say, by the way,    at the end of my paper. But, if we are not able to do that    because aging turns out to be still very mysterious or a    process that we cannot really intervene with, then we are stuck    with a real maximum lifespan that fluctuates around 115, Vijg    said. Accept it.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to read the rest:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/kfor.com\/2017\/07\/02\/living-to-125-and-beyond-scientists-dispute-theres-a-limit-to-our-lifespans\/\" title=\"Living to 125 and beyond: Scientists dispute there's a limit to our lifespans - kfor.com\">Living to 125 and beyond: Scientists dispute there's a limit to our lifespans - kfor.com<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Dont mess with our collective dreams of immortality. A flurry of new research vigorously opposes a study from last year that dared to suggest there might be a ceiling to the human lifespan. In one new paper, Dutch scientists predict, by 2070, our lifespan may increase to 125 years while, beyond that, the sky may be the limit.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/immortality-medicine\/living-to-125-and-beyond-scientists-dispute-theres-a-limit-to-our-lifespans-kfor-com\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-203121","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-immortality-medicine"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/203121"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=203121"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/203121\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=203121"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=203121"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=203121"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}