{"id":199896,"date":"2017-06-19T19:15:45","date_gmt":"2017-06-19T23:15:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/the-four-immortality-stories-we-tell-ourselves-big-think-blog\/"},"modified":"2017-06-19T19:15:45","modified_gmt":"2017-06-19T23:15:45","slug":"the-four-immortality-stories-we-tell-ourselves-big-think-blog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/immortality\/the-four-immortality-stories-we-tell-ourselves-big-think-blog\/","title":{"rendered":"The Four Immortality Stories We Tell Ourselves &#8211; Big Think (blog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Since the moment humans became aware of their existence, they    have been haunted by the knowledge that it will inevitably come    to an end and the hope to change this unfortunate fate.  <\/p>\n<p>    This month, during Brain Bar Budapest  Europes leading    conference on the future  Stephen Cave talked about the four    immortality stories we tell ourselves and how they are changing    in the context of new scientific discoveries and technological    advancements. Stephen Cave spent a decadestudying and    teaching philosophy, and was awarded his PhD in metaphysics    from the University of Cambridge in 2001. He isExecutive    Director of theLeverhulme Centre for the Future of    Intelligenceand Senior Research Associate at the    University of Cambridge.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Stephen Cave \/ Credit: Speakerpedia  <\/p>\n<p>    Thinking about our own mortality has significant effects on the    mind. Studies show that when people are reminded that they are    going to die, those who are religious become more religious,    those who are patriotic, become more patriotic  whatever makes    up the core of their worldview, they defend it more    aggressively. They are also more likely to believe any kind of    story that tells them they may live forever.  <\/p>\n<p>    We need to tell ourselves stories that deny the reality of    death so that we can manage the paralyzing fear of death. In    social psychology this is called terror management theory (TMT)     where humans embrace stories, cultural values, and symbolic    systems to alleviate the fear of death. Stephen Cave points out    that civilization as a whole can be viewed as a collection of    life-extension technologies, the motivation for its existence    being again  immortality.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the age of unprecedented technological advancements, stories    about how new scientific discoveries will extend our lives    abound in our cultural narrative. As new as these may seem they    are nothing but upgrades of four basic narratives weve been    telling ourselves for.  <\/p>\n<p>    Immortality Story I: The Elixir Story  <\/p>\n<p>    Almost every culture has some version of the story of the    elixir of life or the fountain of youth. It is the most basic    form of immortality story - avoiding death physically by    staying young and healthy day after day and somehow managing to    keep it up forever. To some extent civilization has helped us    do that - our ancestors had a life expectancy of 30-40 years,    while ours has doubled. This longevity revolution is one of the    most important ones in human history and thanks to science and    technology perhaps we are on the verge of even another doubling    of life expectancy.  <\/p>\n<p>    To sober us, Cave reminds us that the ancient Egyptians    believed exactly the same thing 4000 years ago, and the ancient    Chinese believed it 2000 years ago  seeing their civilizations    as incredibly advanced and believing beating death must be just    around the corner. Cave urges us to be skeptical about these    stories. Perhaps in our lifetime we will live till 120 or even    150  an unprecedented technological marvel - but that is still    far from eternity.  <\/p>\n<p>    Physicist Geoffrey West explains why we don't live for more    than 100 years:  <\/p>\n<p>    Immortality Story II: The Resurrection Story  <\/p>\n<p>    If we are not able to extend our lives indefinitely, there is    the hope that even if we die, we could rise again and live    again. We see a symbolic resurrection in nature every year with    the changing of the seasons as well as a literal one in    Christianity. But even if you dont believe that an omnipotent    god could resurrect you, you can believe that omnipotent    scientists and doctors could do the same in the future.    As of May 2017, The Alcor Life    Extension Foundation, for example, has 151 patients in    cryopreservation  whole bodies or brains preserved in liquid    nitrogen, awaiting a moment in the future when they could be    brought back to life.  <\/p>\n<p>    Here, Cave reminds us of Mary Shellys Frankenstein  the    creature that rises from the dead but has no identity. The    resurrection story has a deep philosophical flaw  if a person    seizes to exist and is rebuilt again, it is impossible to know    if we are bringing the same person to life or we are creating a    copy.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    By Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley (Google books) [Public    domain] \/ Credit: Wikimedia Commons  <\/p>\n<p>    To save us from this philosophical flaw comesthe story of    the immaterial essence that lives on even after we die  the    soul.  <\/p>\n<p>    Immortality Story III: The Story of the Soul  <\/p>\n<p>    If we embrace the idea of the soul, we can give up on the body    altogether because our true essence becomes not a physical    organism but an immaterial thing. Many thinkers from Plato to    the Hindus have argued that the body is an obstacle to    immortality and the main goal in life is to become pure spirit.  <\/p>\n<p>    This story too is being reinvented by our technological age    with the idea of mind uploading and scientific fields like    Whole brain emulation (WBE). Organizations like Carboncopieshope to create accurate    computational models of neural tissue at the scale of complete    brains, as well as develop neuromorphic hardware to run    simulations of these models.  <\/p>\n<p>    According to Cave, as science progresses the idea of a separate    immaterial soul is becoming less and less plausible, as we    learn that the real \"you\" is dependent on your particular    brain. As bits of the brains are destroyed, bits of the    personality are destroyed as well. And it is not just the brain    itself that makes up who you are but also the millions of    chemical reactions that happen in the body to produce    sensations and emotions.  <\/p>\n<p>    Unable to save the body or the soul, we are left with the last    immortality story, which says that the real you is a bundle of    things, and as you die the bundle scatters but its elements can    live on.  <\/p>\n<p>    Immortality Story IV: The Legacy Story  <\/p>\n<p>    Here Cave reminds us of the story of Achilles who was given the    choice to go home and live a long and happy life or stay in    Troy, fight and die but be remembered forever asthe    greatest hero of all times. Many people have been inspired by    the pursuit of immortality through fame and cultural legacy.    Nowadays, technology gives everyone the means to instant fame,    enables us to build our own statues through tweets and    instagrams, and allows us to capture and preserve every moment    of our life.  <\/p>\n<p>    But many consider this route to immortality far too indirect.    Cave quotes Woody Allen who famously said:  <\/p>\n<p>      I don't want to live on in the hearts of my countrymen, I      want to live on in my apartment.    <\/p>\n<p>    ==  <\/p>\n<p>    Having run out of stories to keep us alive forever, in the end    of his talk, Cave urges us to embrace a fifth narrative. He    explains that the fear of death is based on a misconception,    and while it is natural, it is not rational. He reminds us of    the words of the Austrian philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein:  <\/p>\n<p>      Death is not an event in life: we do not live to experience      death. If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal      duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those      who live in the present. Our life has no end in just the way      in which our visual field has no limits.    <\/p>\n<p>    The fifth narrative is to look at life as if it was a book.    Just like a book is bounded by its covers, our life is bounded    by birth and death. However, even though a book is limited by a    beginning and end, the characters in it know no horizons.  <\/p>\n<p>      You can only know what happens inside the covers  these are      the moments of your life. It makes no sense for you to fear      what is outside of these covers  before your birth or after      your death. In fact, if you think how unlikely it is that the      book of your life should have ever come to be written  all      of the coincidences from the beginning of life that brought      you here - the proper attitude is not fear that it might come      to an end but gratitude that it should have been written at      all. So there is no room to complain how short life is - the      only thing that matters is that you try to make it a good      story.    <\/p>\n<p>    Bill Nye's has similar thoughts on immortality:  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Follow this link: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/bigthink.com\/design-for-good\/the-four-immortality-stories-we-tell-ourselves\" title=\"The Four Immortality Stories We Tell Ourselves - Big Think (blog)\">The Four Immortality Stories We Tell Ourselves - Big Think (blog)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Since the moment humans became aware of their existence, they have been haunted by the knowledge that it will inevitably come to an end and the hope to change this unfortunate fate. This month, during Brain Bar Budapest Europes leading conference on the future Stephen Cave talked about the four immortality stories we tell ourselves and how they are changing in the context of new scientific discoveries and technological advancements. 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