{"id":199766,"date":"2017-06-19T18:42:48","date_gmt":"2017-06-19T22:42:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/toward-immortality-the-social-burden-of-longer-lives\/"},"modified":"2017-06-19T18:42:48","modified_gmt":"2017-06-19T22:42:48","slug":"toward-immortality-the-social-burden-of-longer-lives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/immortality-medicine\/toward-immortality-the-social-burden-of-longer-lives\/","title":{"rendered":"Toward Immortality: The Social Burden of Longer Lives"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Adam and Eve lost it, alchemists tried to brew it and, if you    believe the legends, Spanish conquistador Juan Ponce de Leon    was searching for it when he discovered Florida.  <\/p>\n<p>    To live forever while preserving health and retaining the    semblance and vigor of youth is one of humanity's oldest and    most elusive goals.  <\/p>\n<p>    Now, after countless false starts and disappointments, some    scientists say we could finally be close to achieving lifetimes    that are, if not endless, at least several decades longer. This    modern miracle, they say, will come not from drinking    revitalizing waters or from transmuted substances, but from a    scientific understanding of how aging affects our bodies at    thecellular    and molecular levels.  <\/p>\n<p>    Whether through genetic tinkering or technology that mimics the    effects of     caloric restrictionstrategies that have successfully    extended the lives of flies, worms and micea growing number of    scientists now think that humans could one day routinely live    to 140 years of age or more.  <\/p>\n<p>    Extreme optimists such asAubrey    de Gray think the maximum human lifespan could be    extended indefinitely, but such visions of immortality are    dismissed by most scientists as little more than science    fiction.  <\/p>\n<p>    While scientists go back and forth on the feasibility of    slowing, halting or even reversing the aging process, ethicists    and policymakers have quietly been engaged in a separate debate    about whether it is wise to actually do so.  <\/p>\n<p>    A doubled lifespan  <\/p>\n<p>    If scientists could create a pill that let you live twice as    long while remaining free of infirmities, would you take it?  <\/p>\n<p>    If one considers only the personal benefits that longer life    would bring, the answer might seem like a no-brainer: People    could spend more quality time with loved ones; watch future    generations grow up; learn new languages; master new musical    instruments; try different careers or travel the world.  <\/p>\n<p>    But what about society as a whole? Would it be better off if    life spans were doubled? The question is one of growing    relevance, and serious debate about it goes back at least a few    years to the Kronos Conference on Longevity Health Sciences in    Arizona.  <\/p>\n<p>    Gregory Stock, director of the Program on Medicine, Technology,    and Society at UCLAs School of Public Health, answered the    question with an emphatic \"Yes.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    A doubled lifespan, Stock said, would \"give us a chance to    recover from our mistakes, lead us towards longer-term thinking    and reduce healthcare costs by delaying the onset of expensive    diseases of aging. It would also raise productivity by adding    to our prime years.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Bioethicist Daniel Callahan, a cofounder of the Hastings Center    in New York, didn't share Stocks enthusiasm. Callahans    objections were practical ones. For one thing, he said,    doubling life spans wont solve any of our current social    problems.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"We have war, poverty, all sorts of issues around, and I don't    think any of them would be at all helped by having people live    longer,\" Callahan said in a recent telephone interview. \"The    question is, 'What will we get as a society?' I suspect it    won't be a better society.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Others point out that a doubling of the human lifespan will    affect society at every level. Notions about marriage, family    and work will change in fundamental ways, they say, as will    attitudes toward the young and the old.  <\/p>\n<p>    Marriage and family  <\/p>\n<p>    Richard Kalish, a psychologist who considered the social    effects of life extension technologies, thinks a longer    lifespan will radically change how we view marriage.  <\/p>\n<p>    In todays world, for example, a couple in their 60s who are    stuck in a loveless but tolerable marriage might decide to stay    together for the remaining 15 to 20 years of their lives out of    inertia or familiarity. But if that same couple knew they might    have to suffer each other's company for another 60 or 80 years,    their choice might be different.  <\/p>\n<p>    Kalish predicted that as life spans increase, there will be a    shift in emphasis from marriage as a lifelong union to marriage    as a long-term commitment. Multiple, brief marriages could    become common.  <\/p>\n<p>    A doubled lifespan will reshape notions of family life in other    ways, too, says Chris Hackler, head of the Division of Medical    Humanities at the University of Arkansas.  <\/p>\n<p>    If multiple marriages become the norm as Kalish predicts, and    each marriage produces children, then half-siblings will become    more common, Hackler points out. And if couples continue the    current trend of having children beginning in their 20s and    30s, then eight or even 10 generations might be alive    simultaneously, Hackler said.  <\/p>\n<p>    Furthermore, if life extension also increases a woman's period    of fertility, siblings could be born 40 or 50 years apart. Such    a large age difference would radically change the way siblings    or parents and their children interact with one other.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"If we were 100 years younger than our parents or 60 years    apart from our siblings, that would certainly create a    different set of social relationships,\" Hackler told    LiveScience.  <\/p>\n<p>    The workplace  <\/p>\n<p>    For most people, living longer will inevitably mean more time    spent working. Careers will necessarily become longer, and the    retirement age will have to bepushed    back , not only so individuals can support themselves, but    to avoid overtaxing a nations social security system.  <\/p>\n<p>    Advocates ofanti-aging    research say that working longer might not be such a    bad thing. With skilled workers remaining in the workforce    longer, economic productivity would go up. And if people got    bored with their jobs, they could switch careers.  <\/p>\n<p>    But such changes would carry their own set of dangers, critics    say.  <\/p>\n<p>    Competition for jobs would become fiercer as \"mid-life    re-trainees\" beginning new careers vie with young workers for a    limited number of entry-level positions.  <\/p>\n<p>    Especially worrisome is the problem of workplace mobility,    Callahan said.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"If you have people staying in their jobs for 100 years, that    is going to make it really tough for young people to move in    and get ahead,\" Callahan explained. \"If people like the idea of    delayed gratification, this is going to be a wonderful chance    to experience it.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Callahan also worries that corporations and universities could    become dominated by a few individuals if executives, managers    and tenured professors refuse to give up their posts. Without a    constant infusion of youthful talent and ideas, these    institutions could stagnate.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hackler points out that the same problem could apply to    politics. Many elected officials have term limits that prevent    them from amassing too much power. But what about federal    judges, who are appointed for life?  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Justices sitting on the bench for a hundred years would have a    powerful influence on the shape of social institutions,\"    Hackler writes.  <\/p>\n<p>    Time to act  <\/p>\n<p>    A 2003 staff working paper drawn up by the U.S. Presidents    Council of Bioethicsthen headed by Leon Kass, a longtime    critic of attempts to significantly extend the human    lifespanstated that anti-aging advances would redefine social    attitudes toward the young and the old, and not in good ways.  <\/p>\n<p>    The nation might commit less of its intellectual energy and    social resources to the cause of initiating the young, and more    to the cause of accommodating the old, the paper stated. Also,    quality of life might suffer. A world that truly belonged to    the living would be very different, and perhaps a much    diminished, world, focused too narrowly on maintaining life and    not sufficiently broadly on building the good life.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    While opinions differ wildly about what the ramifications for    society will be if the human lifespan is extended, most    ethicists agree that the issue should be discussed now, since    it might be impossible to stop or control the technology once    it's developed.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"If this could ever happen, then we'd better ask what kind of    society we want to get, Callahan said. We had better not go    anywhere near it until we have figured those problems out.\"  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the article here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.livescience.com\/10458-immortality-social-burden-longer-lives.html\" title=\"Toward Immortality: The Social Burden of Longer Lives\">Toward Immortality: The Social Burden of Longer Lives<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Adam and Eve lost it, alchemists tried to brew it and, if you believe the legends, Spanish conquistador Juan Ponce de Leon was searching for it when he discovered Florida. To live forever while preserving health and retaining the semblance and vigor of youth is one of humanity's oldest and most elusive goals. Now, after countless false starts and disappointments, some scientists say we could finally be close to achieving lifetimes that are, if not endless, at least several decades longer.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/immortality-medicine\/toward-immortality-the-social-burden-of-longer-lives\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-199766","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-immortality-medicine"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/199766"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=199766"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/199766\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=199766"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=199766"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=199766"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}