{"id":199028,"date":"2017-06-15T20:45:27","date_gmt":"2017-06-16T00:45:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/john-robson-a-radical-future-isnt-just-coming-its-arriving-now-and-perhaps-we-should-give-some-thought-to-it-national-post\/"},"modified":"2017-06-15T20:45:27","modified_gmt":"2017-06-16T00:45:27","slug":"john-robson-a-radical-future-isnt-just-coming-its-arriving-now-and-perhaps-we-should-give-some-thought-to-it-national-post","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/immortality-medicine\/john-robson-a-radical-future-isnt-just-coming-its-arriving-now-and-perhaps-we-should-give-some-thought-to-it-national-post\/","title":{"rendered":"John Robson: A radical future isn&#8217;t just coming. It&#8217;s arriving, now, and perhaps we should give some thought to it? &#8211; National Post"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Oh dear. I have seen the future and I think it works. So if    were going to worry wed better get moving because it    certainly is.  <\/p>\n<p>    I say all this after my first day at Moses Znaimers    18th ideacity conference (you can watch the free    live stream at ideacity.ca,    and that is also where the talks will be archived), where it    was clear by lunch that many medical breakthroughs I thought    decades away are at the door or in the vestibule. As for lunch    itself, get ready for beef made from plants that you cant    tell from the real thing. I know. I ate some. Im telling you,    this stuff isnt just coming. Its here.  <\/p>\n<p>    We got a fascinating look at the rapid evolution of organ    transplants, including a machine wheeled out on stage with a    pig lung inside being aerated, irrigated and generally kept    alive. I never thought before about what the outside of a lung    looks like. Very cool, and very practical. But were not just    talking better lung transplants.  <\/p>\n<p>      In the near future it would not just be possible for two men      or women to have a biological child. One person could be both      father and mother    <\/p>\n<p>    Were talking titanium bones, designer children and artificial    wombs. And while I dont know that preventative repair medicine    will ever really let us live forever, barring accidents, one    presenter argued convincingly that in the near future it would    not just be possible for two men or women to have a biological    child. One person could be both father and mother, using a    sperm and an egg manufactured from their skin cells. But wait.    You also get   <\/p>\n<p>    Gene sequencing for that or any other child. Eliminating    genetic defects that cause inherited degenerative diseases is    hard to oppose. But why stop there? All sorts of things are    drawbacks in life, including being short. And we may soon be    able to edit them out with the new, astonishingly fast and    cheap CRISPR\/Cas9 method. Or its successors successor.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dont get me wrong. The conference has been thought-provoking,    rigorous yet accessible and highly relevant, including a    fascinating, high-spirited talk on the human digestive tract.    But its also been disquieting.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Presenter Andrew Stark did warn that living forever might bring    all the pains we associate with mortality without even any    prospect of an end to them. He said the problem isnt that we    die, its that we live in time. And if hes right, then doing    it longer, taller and sexier with custom earlobes wont help.    (The immortality that writers like C.S. Lewis and Russell Kirk    depict involves a radically different relationship to time that    no amount of technique can deliver.)  <\/p>\n<p>    A number of other speakers also touched on the need to debate    the ethical issues. I myself would prefer to debate the    morality but on the way to turning plants into meat and skin    into sperm, scientific technique evidently transformed that old    junk from the everyday concern of ordinary people to the arcane    preserve of experts who have, sadly, no fixed points by which    to navigate. Once we can choose what is right, in biology or    morality, we have no basis for preferring any particular    choice, which paradoxically gives us no place to stop and no    basis for proceeding either.  <\/p>\n<p>    To pick one example from the buffet, a presenter enthused    about, as he put it, producing beef, pork or chicken from    plants. But if were not stuck getting meat from a cow, why are    we stuck with cow meat? Why not bork or picken? Or something    radically new? To infinity and beyond!  <\/p>\n<p>      But if were not stuck getting meat from a cow, why are we      stuck with cow meat? Why not bork or picken? Or something      radically new? To infinity and beyond!    <\/p>\n<p>    If I were at the conference to cast my habitual pall of gloom    over such prospects I would caution that many of our current    problems stem from decades of exactly this blithe confidence    and blind determination to improve on nature through technique.    Food science, ingeniously combining heat, pressure and    chemicals to turn plants into things never before eaten, from    margarine to high fructose corn syrup, with flavours unknown to    nature, already gave us Jacked Ranch Dipped Hot Wings Doritos    that, Mark Schatzker notes in The Dorito Effect, have    34 ingredients. And it gave us an obesity crisis. How likely is    it that food that tastes, smells, and otherwise behaves even    less like what it is will make us healthy and happy next time?  <\/p>\n<p>    I would also note that the tone of ideacity is, unsurprisingly,    strongly environmentalist. Yet these projects are so stunningly    unnatural that one presenter concluded cheerfully with Its    Brave New World, possibly unaware that Huxleys novel was an    agonized cry of warning and protest. But Im not here to cast a    pall of gloom over such visions. Im here to cast a pall of    gloom over the UN on Friday.  <\/p>\n<p>    So for now Im a weatherman, whose main job is not to complain    that wind blows dust into your eyes. Its to say theres wind    coming, or a gale or even a hurricane. And the experts gathered    here already convinced me a radical future is blowing in hard.    And fast.  <\/p>\n<p>    National Post  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/news.nationalpost.com\/opinion\/john-robson-a-radical-future-isnt-just-coming-its-arriving-now-and-perhaps-we-should-give-some-thought-to-it\" title=\"John Robson: A radical future isn't just coming. It's arriving, now, and perhaps we should give some thought to it? - National Post\">John Robson: A radical future isn't just coming. It's arriving, now, and perhaps we should give some thought to it? - National Post<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Oh dear. I have seen the future and I think it works.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/immortality-medicine\/john-robson-a-radical-future-isnt-just-coming-its-arriving-now-and-perhaps-we-should-give-some-thought-to-it-national-post\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-199028","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-immortality-medicine"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/199028"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=199028"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/199028\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=199028"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=199028"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=199028"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}