{"id":198811,"date":"2017-06-15T06:54:10","date_gmt":"2017-06-15T10:54:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/more-on-the-first-amendment-and-realdonaldtrump-the-washington-post\/"},"modified":"2017-06-15T06:54:10","modified_gmt":"2017-06-15T10:54:10","slug":"more-on-the-first-amendment-and-realdonaldtrump-the-washington-post","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/more-on-the-first-amendment-and-realdonaldtrump-the-washington-post\/","title":{"rendered":"More on the First Amendment and @RealDonaldTrump &#8211; The &#8230; &#8211; Washington Post"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Last week, I     blogged about whether the First Amendment restricts    President Trumps ability to block users from his    @RealDonaldTrump Twitter account. The Knight First Amendment    Institute said yes. I said probably not, because I thought    Trumps actions with regard to @RealDonaldTrump  an account    that (unlike @POTUS) precedes the Trump presidency and that    conveys Trumps individual voice  would likely be viewed as    not government action but rather his own individual decisions    and thus not bound by the First Amendment. I said (and still    think) that its a close call, but I noted that some cases had    suggested that even speech on government matters by high    government officials may be seen as their own speech, rather    than the governments, and I thought this was so here.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jameel Jaffer from the Knight Institute was kind enough to    respond. Ill quote his entire response and then offer a few    thoughts of my own. (Amanda    Shanor (Take Care) and     Robert Loeb (Lawfare) have posted analyses that are similar    to the Knight Institutes, though more detailed and worth    reading.)  <\/p>\n<p>    First, Jaffers thought:  <\/p>\n<p>      Does the First Amendment Restrict Trump on Twitter?    <\/p>\n<p>      The First Amendment binds President Trump when he acts in his      official capacity. How do we know, though, when hes acting      in his official capacity, rather than his personal one?    <\/p>\n<p>      Earlier this week, the Knight Institute sent President Trump      a letter on behalf of people whom President Trump had      blocked from his most-followed Twitter account,      @realDonaldTrump. We argued that the account constitutes a      designated public forum under the First Amendment and that      consequently President Trump is barred from blocking people      from it simply because they ridiculed or disagreed with him.      But why does the First Amendment apply at all, one might ask,      to @realDonaldTrump, an account that Trump opened long before      he became president and that could be understood as the      personal counterpart to @POTUS, the official presidential      account?    <\/p>\n<p>      Professor Volokh argues (tentatively) that @realDonaldTrump      is the megaphone of Trump-the-man, not      Trumpthe-president. Government officials, he points out,      can operate in two different capacities  on behalf of the      government and expressing their own views. He writes that      Trump opened @realDonaldTrump before he became president,      that the account is understood as expressing [Trumps] own      views  apparently in his own words and with his own typos,      and that the account does not express the institutional      position[s] of the executive branch. He distinguishes      @realDonaldTrump from @POTUS, which has a handle more      focused on the presidents governmental role. He states that      the question falls near a borderline that hasnt been mapped      in detail, but he concludes (again, tentatively) that      @realDonaldTrump is not a public forum.    <\/p>\n<p>      Its of course true that public officials sometimes act in      their personal capacities. A president probably has less      latitude to act in a personal capacity than, say, a city      councilor does, but even a presidents statements will      sometimes be attributable to the president-as-citizen rather      than the president-as-president. If President Trump      established a private Facebook page to communicate with      business acquaintances about golf, no one would contend that      the First Amendment barred him from excluding people from the      group based on their views.    <\/p>\n<p>      But wherever the line between personal accounts and officials      ones, @realDonaldTrump must be on the official side of it.      Here are the facts, as I understand them:    <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>      If these are the facts, as I think they are, I dont think      @realDonaldTrump can fairly be characterized as a project of      Trump-the-man, even if it began as his project. Whatever the      account once was, its now an important channel through which      Trump-the-president communicates with Americans about his      presidency. Its not a personal account; its an official one       and consequently its an account to which the First      Amendment applies.    <\/p>\n<p>    Heres my thinking:  <\/p>\n<p>    1. That Trump is talking about government-related matters to    the public, including what he is doing and what he will do,    doesnt make it government speech. As I mentioned in my earlier    post, when an incumbent running for reelection gives a campaign    speech, he is not acting on behalf of the government. Likewise,    even Supreme Court justices who believe that the    government may not endorse religion think that its fine    for government officials to express religious views in    their speeches  here, for instance, is the view of Justices    John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg in     Van Orden v. Perry:  <\/p>\n<p>      Our leaders, when delivering public addresses, often express      their blessings simultaneously in the service of God and      their constituents. Thus, when public officials deliver      public speeches, we recognize that their words are not      exclusively a transmission from the government because      those oratories have embedded within them the inherently      personal views of the speaker as an individual member of the      polity.    <\/p>\n<p>    When I put up posts, or moderate comments, Im not acting on    behalf of the state of California (even though blogging is part    of my job, for which I get some modest credit in my job    evaluations, much as professors who write op-eds are given some    credit for such service to the public); likewise for Trump.    To be sure, my powers stemming from my government job are    small, and Trumps powers are vast. But the principle strikes    me as quite similar.  <\/p>\n<p>    For whatever its worth, the only case that has closely dealt    with this,     Davison v. Plowman, took the view that a government    official may be speaking as a citizen and not as the    government, even when he is mak[ing] public statements though    social media to constituents  though I should acknowledge    that this is just a federal trial court case and not a binding    precedent.  <\/p>\n<p>    2. Sean Spicers statement that @RealDonaldTrump tweets are    official statements doesnt count for much here, I think  I    dont think that a press secretary can bind the president, the    executive branch or the judiciary on a legal question such as    this.  <\/p>\n<p>    3. That courts have given the presidents tweets weight in    determining his motivations is not, I think, relevant: Indeed,        the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuits decision,    cited by the Knight Institute, cited a tweet from when Trump    was a candidate  that certainly couldnt have been    government speech. The theory behind the 4th Circuits use of    the tweet is that Trumps motivations were relevant to whether    he had a discriminatory intent at the time he created the    policy, and for that the 4th Circuit didnt care whether the    tweet was an official statement or just his views in 2015 as a    private citizen.  <\/p>\n<p>    4. To the extent that the presidents aides regularly write    tweets in his name (not certain, and the cited source is from    the time when the president was just a candidate), the matter    might be different, though that is not entirely clear.  <\/p>\n<p>    * * *  <\/p>\n<p>    While Im talking about this, let me briefly note one other    post about this, from     Noah Feldman (Bloomberg). Feldman focuses on the fact that    Twitter is a privately owned platform and concludes that its    highly likely that there is no state action when blocking the    followers takes place on such a private platform.  <\/p>\n<p>    I dont think thats quite the right inquiry, though: If, for    instance, a government agency rents space in a privately owned    building to hold a public meeting and then lets citizens speak    during a public comment portion of the meeting, it has created    a limited public forum in which it cant discriminate based on    viewpoint.  <\/p>\n<p>    The same is true if a government agency (and not just a single    politician) runs a Facebook page and allows citizens to comment    there  that would indeed be a limited public forum, because    its government-run even if it uses private property. (See the        Davison cases cited in my original post.) Likewise    with Twitter, the question is whether Trump is acting as    Trump-the-man and not Trump-the-government-official in running    the Twitter feed, not whether Twitter is a state actor.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to read the rest:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/volokh-conspiracy\/wp\/2017\/06\/14\/more-on-the-first-amendment-and-realdonaldtrump\/\" title=\"More on the First Amendment and @RealDonaldTrump - The ... - Washington Post\">More on the First Amendment and @RealDonaldTrump - The ... - Washington Post<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Last week, I blogged about whether the First Amendment restricts President Trumps ability to block users from his @RealDonaldTrump Twitter account. 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