{"id":198059,"date":"2017-06-11T16:55:01","date_gmt":"2017-06-11T20:55:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/the-nsa-says-it-has-to-spy-on-you-to-find-out-if-its-spying-on-you-motherboard\/"},"modified":"2017-06-11T16:55:01","modified_gmt":"2017-06-11T20:55:01","slug":"the-nsa-says-it-has-to-spy-on-you-to-find-out-if-its-spying-on-you-motherboard","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/nsa-2\/the-nsa-says-it-has-to-spy-on-you-to-find-out-if-its-spying-on-you-motherboard\/","title":{"rendered":"The NSA Says It Has to Spy on You to Find Out If It&#8217;s Spying On You &#8211; Motherboard"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The lovely catch 22 of living in the age of mass surveillance    is that the NSA isn't even sure when it's illegally spying on    you. To determine whether its activities are illegal, the NSA    would have to conduct additional, also illegal surveillance.    And so Americans are being illegally spied on, but no one knows    how often this happens, why it happens, or how it happens.  <\/p>\n<p>    Under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act,    the US is allowed to conduct surveillance on foreign nationals,    but surveillance of \"American persons\" (citizens and Green Card    holders) is illegal. The Snowden revelations showed that    communications by Americans were regularly swept up regardless,    and a     court opinion from earlier this year confirmed that much of    this collection was illegal and inappropriate.  <\/p>\n<p>    For years, groups like the American Civil Liberties Union have    demanded that the NSA produce figures about the number of    Americans whose communications are inappropriately swept up in    the NSA's bulk surveillance programs, and Congress has recently    begun asking for similar figures. Don't expect to ever get    them.  <\/p>\n<p>    Wednesday, Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats told    the Senate Intelligence Committee that the NSA believes it is    impossible to determine how often it is breaking the law.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"The NSA has made herculean, extensive efforts to devise a    counting strategy that would be accurate and would respond to    the question [about surveillance of US persons],\" Coats said.    \"It remains infeasible to generate an exact, accurate,    meaningful, and responsive methodology that can count how often    a US person's communications may be collected under 702.\"  <\/p>\n<p>      Image: Getty Images    <\/p>\n<p>    Coats said the reason it is so difficult is that, in order to    determine if the NSA illegally spied on you, the NSA would have    to illegally spy on you.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"To determine if communicants are US persons, NSA would be    required to conduct significant further research trying to    determine whether individuals who may be of no foreign    intelligence interest are US persons,\" he said. \"I would be    asking trained NSA analysts to conduct intense identity    verification research on potential US persons who are not    targets of an investigation. From a privacy and civil liberties    perspective I find this unpalatable.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Because Section 702 surveillance programs deal with vast    amounts of data from many people all over the world, Coats is    suggesting that identifying who shouldn't have been spied on    would require drilling down to more granular data setsan even    more invasive spying than the original bulk surveillance.  <\/p>\n<p>    This all means that the NSA has put itself between a rock and a    hard place and is content to stay pinned there forever so long    as its toys aren't taken away: Coats was testifying, after all,    to urge Congress to reauthorize Section 702 without scaling it    back.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the rest here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/motherboard.vice.com\/en_us\/article\/the-nsa-says-it-has-to-spy-on-you-to-find-out-if-its-spying-on-you\" title=\"The NSA Says It Has to Spy on You to Find Out If It's Spying On You - Motherboard\">The NSA Says It Has to Spy on You to Find Out If It's Spying On You - Motherboard<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The lovely catch 22 of living in the age of mass surveillance is that the NSA isn't even sure when it's illegally spying on you. 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