{"id":195679,"date":"2017-05-30T14:42:37","date_gmt":"2017-05-30T18:42:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/where-does-the-body-of-christ-go-after-the-ascension-patheos-blog\/"},"modified":"2017-05-30T14:42:37","modified_gmt":"2017-05-30T18:42:37","slug":"where-does-the-body-of-christ-go-after-the-ascension-patheos-blog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/ascension\/where-does-the-body-of-christ-go-after-the-ascension-patheos-blog\/","title":{"rendered":"Where Does the Body of Christ Go After the Ascension? &#8211; Patheos (blog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      (Giotto, Ascension, Scrovegni Chapel, 14th c; Wikimedia,      PD-Old-100).    <\/p>\n<p>    Jean-Luc Marion (dont missthe Cosmosexclusive interview) argues for a more    profound and mundane post-Ascension destination than classical    paintings, which usually show Christ taking an invisible    elevator ride into the sky, leavingthe    sublunarworld behind.  <\/p>\n<p>    But what about us? Where does that leave us?  <\/p>\n<p>    Jean-Luc Marions Prolegomena to Charity, his most    accessible work, is where he unpacks some of the central    paradoxes of Christianity.  <\/p>\n<p>    Prolegomena to Charityargues    that thedisappearance of the Ascension    paradoxicallymakes possiblea hitherto unknown    presence and intimacy with God. One step back for our    perception, two steps forward in Christs shoes.  <\/p>\n<p>    Note the mix of modern and ancient sources:  <\/p>\n<p>      If Christ goes up to heaven in order to return from      there, from this moment on the vision of John is realized: I      saw heaven opened (Rev. 19:11). This means that with the      opening of heaven, God himself opens a two-way passage, God      himself opens himself with the withdrawal of Jesus: There is      no more closed heaven. Christ is in heaven, which implies      that God is accessible to man (Joseph Ratzinger, Eschatology: Death and Eternal      Life). The Ascension does not signify the      disappearance of Christ into the closed heavens, but the      opening of heaven by a retreat that remains a mode of return.      This paradox constitutesever since the beginningthe very      mystery of Ascension: It is therefore at this moment that      the Son of man was known more excellently and more      righteously as the Son of God; for having withdrawn in the      glory of the paternal majesty, he began, in an ineffable way,      to be more present through his divinity, he who had become      more distant by his humanity. When I will have gone up to my      Father, you will touch me more perfectly and more truly (Leo      the Great, Sermons, Sermo LXII).The      withdrawal of Christ does not make him less present, but more      present than his physical body permitted. Or rather, the new      mode of his bodily presence (as the Eucharist) assures us in      the very withdrawal of his former body, a more insistent      presence.    <\/p>\n<p>    Thus, the Eucharist leads to our deification, which both    manifests and obscures (in ways besides sin)the Father:  <\/p>\n<p>      . . . the withdrawal of the Ascension makes the      disciples come unto a perfect, though, paradoxical presence      in Christ. Paradoxically for this presence no longer      admits any sensible support and, for outside observers,      reduces to pure and simple absence. Perfect, precisely      because this presence no longer consists in seeing another,      even the Christ, loving, dying and returning to life, but      oneself, like him, in him, according to him, actually loving,      dying, and returning to life. Presence: not to find      oneself in the presence of Christ, but to become present to      him (to declare oneself present, available) in order to      receive from him the present (the gift) of the Spirit who      makes us, here and now (in the present), bless him like he      blesses the Fatheruntil and in order that he return.      The highest presence of Christ lies in the Spirits action of      making us, with him and in him, bless the Father.    <\/p>\n<p>    The Athanasian dictum thatSon of    God became man, so thatman might become God is something    to remember on Ascension as it leans toward that most material    of feasts,Corpus Christi. In saying this Jean-Luc Marion    isnt saying anything different than the Tradition.    Phenomenology, like all of philosophy, is about tearing away    old opinions with new language thatmanifests the living    fountains gushing out of the old.  <\/p>\n<p>    The unique contribution of phenomenologythis is something I    learned indirectlyfrom Anne M. Carpenters (see: her Patheos blog) Theo-Poetics: Hans Urs von Balthasar and    the Risk of Art and Beingis that it recapitulates and    magnifiesthe importance of the subjective pole of human    experience in ways that were present in nuce in the    objectively-oriented Scholastic tradition, but forgotten in modernitys appropriation of    it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Going back to the Eucharistic site of Ascension, we should also    recallKarl Rahners words from the Investigations:  <\/p>\n<p>      The Ascension is a festival of the future of the world. The      flesh is redeemed and glorified, for The Lord has risen for      ever. We Christians are, therefore, the most sublime of      materialists.    <\/p>\n<p>    The answer to the title question is therefore, right here.  <\/p>\n<p>    The shock of this realization might be due to the loss of the    ancient tradition ofunderstanding theChristian call as a call to become other    Christs (alter Christi).  <\/p>\n<p>    The materialist points made by Rahner and Marion also have some    interesting implications for a reading of the Book of    Revelation, which posits the afterlife as being one where there    is a New Heaven and a New Earth (same, yet different), and    where the saints reside in a New Jerusalem. There is a    continuity there with the present world, which is thereby    affirmed not superseded.  <\/p>\n<p>    If anything the whole visible sublunar world, not just    Christ, not just us, takes that invisibleelevator ride    too.  <\/p>\n<p>    For more on Marion, this time in a more phenomenological mode,    see:Jean-Luc Marion: Does Silencing Love Mean    Philosophy is a Misnomer?, but alsoour recent    interview with him where he argues you    should be Catholic because its (serious) fun.  <\/p>\n<p>    If you know nothing about phenomenology, then read Derrida and Theology + Phenomenology as    Catholic Philosophy = The French Theological Turn  <\/p>\n<p>    If you like what youve read please make a donation to this    blog through the button on the upper right side of this page to    help keep it going.  <\/p>\n<p>    Stay in touch! 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