{"id":192063,"date":"2017-05-09T15:49:49","date_gmt":"2017-05-09T19:49:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/offshore-wind-jobs-or-cheap-power-experts-say-us-cant-have-both-ee-news\/"},"modified":"2017-05-09T15:49:49","modified_gmt":"2017-05-09T19:49:49","slug":"offshore-wind-jobs-or-cheap-power-experts-say-us-cant-have-both-ee-news","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/offshore\/offshore-wind-jobs-or-cheap-power-experts-say-us-cant-have-both-ee-news\/","title":{"rendered":"OFFSHORE WIND Jobs or cheap power? Experts say US can&#8217;t have both &#8211; E&#038;E News"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Advertisement  <\/p>\n<p>    Saqib Rahim, E&E News    reporter  <\/p>\n<p>    HAUPPAUGE, N.Y.  States advancing offshore wind want    everything they've seen in Europe: cheap, low-carbon power and    the jobs that come with it.  <\/p>\n<p>    They may soon find themselves having to choose between those    aims, a panel of European industry executives said here    yesterday.  <\/p>\n<p>    Jonathan Cole, a managing director with renewables giant    Iberdrola SA, said European countries did.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"What do they want in this sector? Do they want the cheapest    unit cost of electricity? If so, consider the Dutch model,\"    Cole said at the U.S. Offshore Wind conference. \"Do they    actually want to build a long-term sustainable industry? If so,    they need to think, certainly for the first few units, about    something different.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Cole said the Netherlands focused its policies on building the    cheapest turbines, but that meant it had to import the units.    Germany and the United Kingdom were less price-sensitive, but    that drew more technological innovation to their shores.  <\/p>\n<p>    Advertisement  <\/p>\n<p>    The remarks frame the dilemma before Maryland, Massachusetts    and New York, as well as other states hoping to make offshore    wind a contributor on the scale of nuclear and coal plants.  <\/p>\n<p>    These states want zero-carbon electrons but also hope to jolt    manufacturing. And they'd prefer not to be blamed for raising    utility bills.  <\/p>\n<p>    European companies say if states want to see that, they need to    make firm promises measured in gigawatts.  <\/p>\n<p>    Europe has built about 3,600 turbines, and the industry says    it's reaching new economies of scale that are driving costs    down. In April, the world's largest developer, Denmark-based    Dong Energy, won an auction with two projects that were    economical without any subsidy.  <\/p>\n<p>    The industry says it can wring out more cost from economies of    scale and larger turbines that harness more wind. One informal    goal: getting costs under 10 cents per kilowatt-hour.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"The two fundamental drivers in the end are scale and    competition,\" said Sven Utermhlen, chief operating officer at    E.ON Climate & Renewables.  <\/p>\n<p>    Northeast states are grappling with how that looks in America.  <\/p>\n<p>    Smaller offshore wind projects have come in around 20    cents\/kWh, said Willett Kempton, a professor at the University    of Delaware.  <\/p>\n<p>    On a grid fueled by nuclear, natural gas and onshore wind, 20    cents is well above market. So New Jersey and Maryland have    offered special subsidies for offshore wind projects that can    show economic benefits, whether in the form of jobs or local    content.  <\/p>\n<p>    New York is touting the size of its offshore wind resource,    which it pegs around 1 gigawatt, and the promise of scale.    Massachusetts has emphasized cost reduction: Each round of bids    has to be cheaper than the last.  <\/p>\n<p>    Several factors came together in Europe to drive down costs,    the panel said.  <\/p>\n<p>    One was heavy competition among manufacturers. The market    consolidated around three main turbine builders  Siemens AG,    General Electric Co. and MHI Vestas Offshore Wind  that are    now locked in fierce competition.  <\/p>\n<p>    Another was the long-term policy commitment to growing offshore    wind, the panel said. Europe has installed around 12.6 GW of    offshore wind. U.S. commitments amount to 4-5 GW.  <\/p>\n<p>    Cole said that's nowhere near enough to get a factory for    nacelles and blades, which are the most valuable parts of the    turbines. To get factories for those, he estimated, the United    States would have to build 3-4 GW a year.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"There are many reasons this will come, but it will not start    with the nacelle. Nacelles will be the last component,\" said    Kempton.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"There is plenty of other stuff which I think makes absolutely    no sense to be manufactured outside the U.S., if we want to    have a U.S. offshore wind business,\" said Utermhlen. \"Cables.    Foundations. Vessels. I think there's plenty of opportunity    there.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Advertisement  <\/p>\n<p>    Advertisement  <\/p>\n<p>      The essential news for energy & environment professionals    <\/p>\n<p>       1996-2017 Environment & Energy Publishing,      LLCPrivacy      PolicySite      Map    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Continued here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.eenews.net\/energywire\/stories\/1060054243\" title=\"OFFSHORE WIND Jobs or cheap power? Experts say US can't have both - E&E News\">OFFSHORE WIND Jobs or cheap power? 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