{"id":190614,"date":"2017-05-02T22:42:18","date_gmt":"2017-05-03T02:42:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment-trouble-brewing-chicago-daily-law-bulletin\/"},"modified":"2017-05-02T22:42:18","modified_gmt":"2017-05-03T02:42:18","slug":"fourth-amendment-trouble-brewing-chicago-daily-law-bulletin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/fourth-amendment-trouble-brewing-chicago-daily-law-bulletin\/","title":{"rendered":"Fourth Amendment trouble brewing &#8211; Chicago Daily Law Bulletin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>        PostedMay 1, 2017 10:04 AM      <\/p>\n<p>        UpdatedMay 1, 2017 11:30 AM      <\/p>\n<p>      ByTimothy P. ONeill    <\/p>\n<p>    Pretend you are taking the SAT exam. Here is a fill-in-blank    question from the verbal section:  <\/p>\n<p>    A man is walking alone on a sidewalk in a high-crime    neighborhood. Two police officers are in a car approaching from    the opposite direction. The car stops. One officer rolls down    the window and begins to speak to the man: Come here, the    officer _______.  <\/p>\n<p>    Which word best completes the sentence?  <\/p>\n<p>    A. commands  <\/p>\n<p>    B. orders  <\/p>\n<p>    C. asks  <\/p>\n<p>    If you answered either A or B, you are still in the running for    that college scholarship you are after.  <\/p>\n<p>    If you answered C, you have probably just blown your chance for    a perfect score on the verbal section. But you may have just    secured yourself a seat on the Illinois Appellate Court. To    understand why, take a look at People v. Ramsey    Qurash, 2017 IL App (1st) 143412 (decided March 16, 2017).  <\/p>\n<p>    The facts of the case match our SAT question above. Chicago    police officer Stephen Gregory testified that after he said    Come here, Qurash dropped a large white bottle into the snow.    Gregory got out of the car, picked up the bottle and saw it    contained a leafy substance that appeared to be marijuana. He    arrested Qurash and found more contraband on his person. Qurash    was charged with several drug offenses.  <\/p>\n<p>    The majority opinion characterizes the issue in the case as    [D]eceptively simple: [A]s a matter of law, do the words come    here, uttered by a police officer to a citizen, result in a    seizure. If it does result in a seizure, then the drugs must    all be suppressed since Officer Gregory lacked either probable    cause or reasonable suspicion at the moment he said those two    words. The [1]st District decided the issue by characterizing    Come here as a mere request that did not result in a seizure,    and thus affirmed the conviction.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, Justice David Ellis filed a dissent contending that no    reasonable person would have interpreted Come here as a mere    offer he could refuse. Qurash did not consent to an officers    request; rather, he acquiesced to the officers command. And    because the officer lacked any suspicion whatsoever when he    issued that command, the seizure violated the Fourth Amendment    and the conviction must be reversed.  <\/p>\n<p>    Preliminarily, both the majority and the dissent agree that the    trial courts holding that the officers words did not    constitute a seizure was a question of fact deserving    deferential review.  <\/p>\n<p>    I am not so sure. True, the trial courts finding that the    officer said Come here is a question of historical fact that    deserves deferential review. And whether or not a defendant has    voluntarily consented to an officers request for a search or    seizure is an issue reviewed deferentially in Illinois.    People v. West, 2017 ILL. App. (3d) 130802.  <\/p>\n<p>    But the issue of whether a seizure has occurred is a question    of law that merits de novo review. In fact, as noted above, the    majority even began its analysis by describing the issue in the    case as a matter of law. (Slip, 5) A seizure occurs when a    reasonable person would believe he is not free to leave.    U.S. v Mendenhall, 446 U.S. 544 (1980) (opinion of    Stewart, J.).  <\/p>\n<p>    Deciding how a reasonable person would react to Come here is    an objective test resulting in a finding of law that merits de    novo review.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet even under a deferential standard, I believe the dissent is    correct that a seizure occurred when the officer said Come    here and that the trial court was clearly erroneous in holding    otherwise.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is worth quoting Ellis at length: Those two words, alone,    are not a request. Nor could they plausibly be construed as a    question (Come here?) To a man walking down the street, alone    at night, in a high-crime neighborhood, when two officers    stopped their car in the middle of the street and one of them    said, Come here, any reasonable person would believe that he    was required to comply with that directive that he was not free    to leave.  <\/p>\n<p>    The dissent does something else worth noting. It exhibits an    awareness that an appellate court decision is not a one-off;    it does not exist in a vacuum. An appellate decision in a    common-law system must of necessity be Janus-faced: It must    decide the case that has already occurred in the past with the    realization that its decision will have impact on people in the    future.  <\/p>\n<p>    This leads Ellis to say I fear that the majoritys holding    will have the unintended effect of encouraging individuals not    to comply with a police officers request, or order, to come    here. Under the majoritys reasoning, the best way for    citizens to protect their [F]ourth [A]mendment rights is to    ignore the police in that context because if they complied even    though not required to do so, they would be consenting to    police questioning without any [F]ourth [A]mendment protections    at all.  <\/p>\n<p>    And Ellis goes on to note the dilemma the court has created for    a pedestrian in the future. For if she refuses to comply and    simply continues walking and if the officer continues to say    Come here a person could find herself accused of resisting or    obstructing a lawful order of the police. Ellis cites    People v Synnott for the proposition that merely    refusing a police officers lawful order to move can constitute    interference with the officer in the discharge of his or her    duty. 349 Ill. App. 3d 223, 229 (2004).  <\/p>\n<p>    Elliss dissent makes this case worth a second look. For, as he    notes, Come here is not a question. Come here is not a    request. 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