{"id":190202,"date":"2017-04-30T21:56:36","date_gmt":"2017-05-01T01:56:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/why-are-there-no-libertarian-countries-nolan-chart-llc\/"},"modified":"2017-04-30T21:56:36","modified_gmt":"2017-05-01T01:56:36","slug":"why-are-there-no-libertarian-countries-nolan-chart-llc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/libertarianism\/why-are-there-no-libertarian-countries-nolan-chart-llc\/","title":{"rendered":"Why are there no libertarian countries? &#8211; Nolan Chart LLC"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Libertarians and anarchists often get challenged with an    annoying question, Warren Redlich, theCEO of Independent    Political Report and a former Libertarian Party candidate,    recently wrote: Iflibertarianism is so great, why hasnt    any country tried it?[1]  <\/p>\n<p>    There is no doubt that the question has been asked often,    andthat it is meant to be annoying.Consider the    source: Michael Lind. Lind, for those who have never heard of    him, is a writer for theNew America Foundation who has    achieved some online notoriety as a professional    anti-libertarian. (Agoogle search on Lind    libertarianism turns up more than 100,000 hits.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Lind first came to myattention when he proclaimed the    collapse of libertarianism as a political force back    inNovember 2007  just in time for the birth of the Ron    Paul Revolution.[2] In fact, though, he    washeralding the utter and final defeat of  the    libertarian counter-revolution. before    that,[3]and he has continued to do so    since: most recently in 2015, when he pontificated that    thelibertarian moment [Rand Paul] symbolized is    over.[4] (To be fair, he also pontificated    inhis2015 article that There was never a    libertarian moment in the United States  which gets    onewondering just what keeps collapsing.)  <\/p>\n<p>    But constantly    heralding the end of something that never existed in the first    place must getboring after a while; so in 2013 Lind came    up with a new angle: the above question, smugly packaged    asThe Question Libertarians Just Cant    Answer.[5] That had such a great reception    thatLind followed it up within days with two more    articles with equally-revealing titles, Why    Libertariansare Basically Cult    Members[6] and Grow Up,    Libertarians![7]  <\/p>\n<p>    Given this genesis, there is no wonder that anti-libertarians    ask the question often, and thatthey do so mainly to    annoy libertarians. But there is really nothing annoying about    the questionitself. The absence of libertarian countries    is a phenomenon in need of an explanation, andtrying to    provide one could shed some light on little-explored areas of    political theory. So itis worth attempting an answer.  <\/p>\n<p>    It also worth looking at Linds answers; for indeed, he gives    us not one but two. Hisfirst answer is not explicitly    stated, but implicity smuggled into the way he phrases and    rephrases his question. In his article he asks that question    five times. The first instance is purely neutral:    Whyare there no libertarian countries?  but    not so his reiterations:  <\/p>\n<p>    If libertarians are correct in claiming that they    understand how best to organize a modernsociety, how is    it that not a single country in the world in the early    twenty-first century isorganized along libertarian    lines? If libertarianism was a good idea, wouldnt at least    onecountry have tried it? Why isnt libertarianism    discredited by the absence of any libertarianregimes in    the real world? If libertarianism is not only appealing but    plausible, why hasntany country anywhere in the world    ever tried it?[8]  <\/p>\n<p>    Such formulations seem designed to suggest their own answers:    There are no libertarian countriesbecause libertarianism    is not plausible  it is discredited  it is not a good    idea  andlibertarians just do not understand how to    organize a modern society.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, Lind cannot just keep repeating and rephrasing the    same question. Some people may be tooobtuse to grasp    those implications, no matter how often he makes them. Still    others may beintelligent enough to see logical problems    with the implications themselves:  <\/p>\n<p>    Obviously, this is a silly, fallacious pattern of argument.    Every good idea was at one pointuntried. A hypothesis    that has not been tested is neither confirmed nor disconfirmed.    One mayreasonably complain that a hypothesis is    unfalsifiable. But it is simply bizarre to maintain    thata hypothesis might be discredited because it has yet    to be tested, because it is so far neitherfalsified nor    confirmed. Such a principle would entail the absurdity that all    hypotheses werediscredited at the dawn of    time.[9]  <\/p>\n<p>    So Lind also needs to provide a substantive answer to his own    question. Which indeed he does: Onhis account, there is a    significant trade-off between less government and more    nationalinsecurity, more crime, more illiteracy and more    infant and maternal mortality, among otherthings.    Those other things including human survival itself:    Economic liberty comes at a pricein human survival,    it would seem. There must be no libertarian countries,    then, because nocountry wants to pay that price in human    survival.  <\/p>\n<p>    But if there are no libertarian countries, what is Linds    evidence that one would come with allthis nastiness?    Fortunately for his research project, the free-market    right has been rankingcountries according to    economic freedom for years. Using one such ranking     the 2013 one fromthe Heritage    Foundation[10]  Lind attempts to prove his    trade-off theory.  <\/p>\n<p>    His technique is to compare two points on the list. On the one    hand, he looks atthe mature, well-established    industrial democracies, with the U.S. as representative.    But none of these countries, includingthe U.S., is    anywhere near a libertarian paradise. Considering how    often Lind points out the lack oflibertarian paradises,    that does not exactly come as a surprise.  <\/p>\n<p>    And then there is Mauritius. According to the Heritage    Foundation, the U.S. has less economicfreedom than    Mauritius, another small island country, this one off the    southeast coast of Africa.At number 8, Mauritius is two    rungs above the U.S., at number 10 in the global index of    economicliberty  at least Mauritius is economically    free!  <\/p>\n<p>    Comparing the U.S. and Mauritius, Lind illustrates his    purported trade-offs: the U.S. has aliteracy rate of    99 percent, compared to only 88.5 percent in economically-freer    Mauritius.Infant mortality? In economically-more-free    Mauritius there are about 11 deaths per 1,000 livebirths     compared to 5.9 in the economically-less-free U.S. Maternal    mortality in Mauritius is at60 deaths per 100,000 live    births, compared to 21 in the U.S.  <\/p>\n<p>    Never mind that back in 1980 (when it ranked only 68 on the    Heritage list) Mauritius had aninfant mortality rate 3    times higher.[11] For Lind, the U.S.-Mauritius    comparison is clear proofthat more economic freedom means    more infant mortality (not to mention more maternal    mortalityand less literacy).  <\/p>\n<p>    There are five problems for his proof method, though: the five    countries at the top of his list Hong Kong, Singapore,    Australia, New Zealand, and Switzerland  the only countries    the HeritageFoundation ranks as economically free.    (Both the U.S. and Mauritius are ranked almost    free).Using Google searches, I was able to find    comparable statistics for all five; and what I foundwas    indeed shocking:  <\/p>\n<p>    The last four have literacy rates ranging from 97% to 99%:    below the U.S., but well ahead ofMauritius. Their infant    mortality rates (per thousand) range from 4.5 deaths (for    Switzerland) to2 (for Singapore), and their maternal    mortality rates (per thousand) from 11 (for New Zealand)    to5 (for Switzerland)  well ahead of both the less-free    U.S. and less-free Mauritius. No evidenceof any    significant trade-off there.  <\/p>\n<p>    And then there is Hong Kong, at the top of the Heritage list.    If Linds theory is correct, thenliteracy should be way    down in Hong Kong, and both infant and maternal morality way    up. Literacyis in fact down (though still above    Mauritius), at 93%; but so are infant mortality (at 1.5    per1,000 births) and maternal mortality (1.6 per 1,000).    No sign of any significant trade-offthere, either.  <\/p>\n<p>    Lind deals with these apparent counter-examples by claiming    that they should not count,because the Heritage    Foundation rankings  the very ones he relies on  are    biased. Hong Kong andSingapore do not count because    they have small geographic areas  the first is a    city and thesecond a city-state  yet    Mauritius does, though it is only 2000 km in size. Australia    andNew Zealand do not count because they are    low-population countries  yet Mauritius    does,although its population is slightly above 1 million.    Furthermore, four out of the top five weresmall    British overseas colonies (so was Mauritius) that    depended for protection first on theBritish empire    and now on the United States (as does Mauritius, home of    the Diego Garciaairbase).  <\/p>\n<p>    And what of Switzerland, to which none of the above objections    apply? According to Lind, it shouldnot count either,    because  wait for it  Switzerland might not have    maintained its independencefor long if Nazi Germany had    won World War II. Really.  <\/p>\n<p>    Despite Linds attempt to rule out all the evidence against    histrade-off theory, it isreasonable to conclude    that he has not proved it, and that the examples he picked to    prove it were in factcherry-picked. But if his    trade-off theory is unproved, it makes no sense to think that    anynation (much less every nation) subscribes to it, and    that that explains why none of them arelibertarian. So we    should look elsewhere for an answer.  <\/p>\n<p>    So why are there no libertarian countries? A libertarian might    say it is because:  <\/p>\n<p>    (1) Contrary to Linds initial assumption (which he puts in the    mouth of libertarians), no oneactually organizes a    modern society. Great societies are what Hayek calls    spontaneous or polycentric orders  not unplanned, but not    conforming to any one plan, either; insteadsubject to a    myriad of conflicting plans, by a myriad of different interest    groups. Some of thosegroups goals can be libertarian,    some the opposite (let us label those    totalitarian).Consequently, one would expect any    existing political system to contain a mixture of    bothlibertarian and totalitarian elements.  <\/p>\n<p>    (2) The most influential interest groups would be the most    powerful, or, in otherwords, those that benefit most from    the existing system; which means that each would have    abuilt-in conservative bias  conservative not in the    sense of wanting less government, but in the senseof    wanting to preserve the status quo  and that the political    system would reflect this bias. Changes ineither a    libertarian or totalitarian direction would, then, happen    slowly and incrementally, atthe margins.  <\/p>\n<p>    (3) Political change is implemented by governments, and can be    effected only through governmentpower. Libertarianism has    an understandable bias against those who use government power    for theirown ends, and vice versa. A government might    adopt certain libertarian policies for its owninterests     such as cutting tax rates to increase tax revenue, or repealing    a universally-detested law for the sake of civil order  but it    is unreasonable to imagine any government    reducingitspower just for the sake of doing so.    Besides the already-noted conservative bias, then, one    wouldexpect political systems to have a built-in    totalitarian bias.  <\/p>\n<p>    (4) The notable counter-examples to (2)  radical changes in a    society  are those imposed bymilitary force; and, in    light of (3), it strains belief to imagine a libertarian    society beingimposed that way. While waging a war may    accomplish some libertarian ends  ending slavery in    theU.S. is an example  the very act of fighting one    serves only to accentuate the already-notedtotalitarian    bias.  <\/p>\n<p>    In light of the above, one would expect to find no pure    libertarian political systems. Then again, in light of the    first two points, one would expect to find few, if any, pure    ideologicalsystems of any kind  and that expectation    would be correct.  <\/p>\n<p>    The Scandinavian role models ofsocial    democracy that Lind invokes, for example, are hardly exemplars    of pure socialism: whilegovernments share of GDP is    higher there than in the Heritage Foundations economically    freecountries, it comes nowhere near 100%. One of those    role models, Denmark, actually ranks higherthan the U.S.    (and just behind Mauritius) on the very Heritage Foundation    list that Lind relies on; something that he either did not    notice or did not see fit to mention.  <\/p>\n<p>    Besides, one cannot help adding, Scandinavia might not have    maintained its independence for longif Nazi Germany had    won World War II.  <\/p>\n<p>    What one would expect to see  and what one does see, all over    the world  are mixed systems:countries with a mixture of    libertarian and totalitarian policies, some more libertarian,    somemore totalitarian, most probably more totalitarian    than libertarian, but never purely one or theother.  <\/p>\n<p>    There is, though, one notable counter-example to my last    statement: totalitarian communism. There certainly have been    totalitarian communist regimes in the real world. Most of    those, too, asLind concedes, have been imperfect    models, but somehave comevery close indeed    tototalitarian perfection: Stalinist Russia,China    under the Red Guard, Pol Pots Cambodia, and NorthKorea.  <\/p>\n<p>    While Lind claims that the pro-communist left has been    discredited by the failure of theMarxist-Leninist    countries, (presumably referring to the non-existence of    most of those regimes today),the reality is that at least    one of them, North Korea, is still going strong in the 21st    century.  <\/p>\n<p>    Like it or hate it, North Korea does look like an example of    pure totalitarianism: a political system inwhich    libertarian elementsare completely absent. In which case,    any theory attempting to explainthe absence of    libertarian regimes in todays world should also be able to    account for thepresence of totalitarian regimes. That    proves no insuperable problem for my theory  North    Koreais an example of (4), a regime imposed and    maintained solely by military force  but it does seemto    do so for Linds.  <\/p>\n<p>    For one thing, North Korea gives precious little evidence to    support his trade-off theory.North Korea, as expected,    ranks last on the Heritage Foundation list, meaning that by    Linds theory literacyshould be high there, and infant    and maternal morality low. The country does boastan    incredibly high 100% literacy rate  not one illiterate in the    entire country. But its infant and maternalmortality    rates (22 and 82 deaths per 1,000 births, respectively) are    higher even than those ofLinds cherry-picked paradigm of    economic freedom, Mauritius.  <\/p>\n<p>    For another, the example of a purely totalitarian regime in the    21st century also poses a problemfor Linds implicit    answer to his question (the one smuggled into itsvarious    iterations). Forif the criterion of an ideologys    correctness, goodness, plausibility, etc., is whether or not    itis adopted in the real world, one would have to count    totalitarian communism a ringing success onall counts.  <\/p>\n<p>    So let us rephrase Linds questions, and ask them right back at    him in turn:  <\/p>\n<p>    If totalitarian communists are wrong in claiming that they    understand how best to organize amodern society, how is    it that a country in the world in the early twenty-first    century isorganized along totalitarian communist lines?    If totalitarian communism was not a good idea,wouldnt    there be no countries that ever tried it (much less continue to    try it)? Why isnttotalitarian communism vindicated by    the presence of totalitarian communist regimes in the    realworld? If totalitarian communism is not only    implausible but unappealing, why are countriestrying it?  <\/p>\n<p>    I have no doubt that Lind will be able to answer those    questions, though not without changing hiscriterion of    what makes a political ideology correct, good, plausible, and    appealing. So I lookforward to seeing his answers.  <\/p>\n<p>    Photo  Michael Lind in 2015. Photo by D.W.    Taylor. Courtesy Wikimedia Commons.  <\/p>\n<p>    [1] Warren Redlich, Was America Ever    Libertarian?, Independent Political Report, April    25,2017. <a href=\"http:\/\/independentpoliticalreport.com\/2017\/04\/was-america-ever-libertarian\/#comment-1589317\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/independentpoliticalreport.com\/2017\/04\/was-america-ever-libertarian\/#comment-1589317<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [2] Michael Lind (2007), The Centre-Grounds    Shift to the Left, Financial Times, November 27,2007.    <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/4afdfafe-9cf7-11dc-af03-0000779fd2ac\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/4afdfafe-9cf7-11dc-af03-0000779fd2ac<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [3] Lind (2006), The Unmourned End of    Libertarian Politics, Financial Times, August 16, 2006.    <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/2333b794-2d4e-11db-851d-0000779e2340\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/2333b794-2d4e-11db-851d-0000779e2340<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [4] Lind (2015), The False Rise and    Fall of Rand Paul, Politico, October 20, 2015. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/magazine\/story\/2015\/10\/rand-paul-2016-libertarianism-213265\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.politico.com\/magazine\/story\/2015\/10\/rand-paul-2016-libertarianism-213265<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [5] Lind (2013a), The Question    libertarians Just Cant Answer. Salon, June 4, 2013.    <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2013\/06\/04\/the_question_libertarians_just_cant_answer\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2013\/06\/04\/the_question_libertarians_just_cant_answer\/<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [6] Lind (2013b), Why Libertarians    are Basically Cult Members, AlterNet, June 11, 2013.    <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alternet.org\/economy\/libertarians-are-cult-members?akid=10559.113011.rcc3cH&#038;rd=1&#038;src=newsletter853683&#038;t=9\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.alternet.org\/economy\/libertarians-are-cult-members?akid=10559.113011.rcc3cH&#038;rd=1&#038;src=newsletter853683&#038;t=9<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [7] Lind (2013c), Grow Up,    Libertarians!, Salon, June 13, 2013. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2013\/06\/13\/grow_up_libertarians\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.salon.com\/2013\/06\/13\/grow_up_libertarians\/<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [8] Quotations in italics are from Lind    (2013a).  <\/p>\n<p>    [9] Will Wilkinson, Michael Linds bad    argument against anything, The Economist, June 6, 2013.    <a href=\"http:\/\/www.economist.com\/blogs\/democracyinamerica\/2013\/06\/libertarianism-and-experiment\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.economist.com\/blogs\/democracyinamerica\/2013\/06\/libertarianism-and-experiment<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [10] Index of Economic Freedom, Wikipedia,    April 11, 2017. <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Index_of_Economic_Freedom\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Index_of_Economic_Freedom<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>    [11] Ronald Bailey, Michael Linds Obtuse    Attack on Liberty and Libertarianism, Reason, June    7,2013. <a href=\"http:\/\/reason.com\/archives\/2013\/06\/07\/michael-linds-obtuse-attack-on-liberty-a\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/reason.com\/archives\/2013\/06\/07\/michael-linds-obtuse-attack-on-liberty-a<\/a>  <\/p>\n<p>            The Question Libertarians CAN Answer!    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nolanchart.com\/why-are-there-no-libertarian-countries\" title=\"Why are there no libertarian countries? - Nolan Chart LLC\">Why are there no libertarian countries? - Nolan Chart LLC<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Libertarians and anarchists often get challenged with an annoying question, Warren Redlich, theCEO of Independent Political Report and a former Libertarian Party candidate, recently wrote: Iflibertarianism is so great, why hasnt any country tried it?[1] There is no doubt that the question has been asked often, andthat it is meant to be annoying.Consider the source: Michael Lind. Lind, for those who have never heard of him, is a writer for theNew America Foundation who has achieved some online notoriety as a professional anti-libertarian. (Agoogle search on Lind libertarianism turns up more than 100,000 hits.) Lind first came to myattention when he proclaimed the collapse of libertarianism as a political force back inNovember 2007 just in time for the birth of the Ron Paul Revolution.[2] In fact, though, he washeralding the utter and final defeat of the libertarian counter-revolution.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/libertarianism\/why-are-there-no-libertarian-countries-nolan-chart-llc\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-190202","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-libertarianism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/190202"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=190202"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/190202\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=190202"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=190202"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=190202"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}