{"id":189521,"date":"2017-04-25T05:32:28","date_gmt":"2017-04-25T09:32:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/the-chiefs-thoughts-cutting-through-the-nonsense-on-borders-being-libertarian\/"},"modified":"2017-04-25T05:32:28","modified_gmt":"2017-04-25T09:32:28","slug":"the-chiefs-thoughts-cutting-through-the-nonsense-on-borders-being-libertarian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/libertarian\/the-chiefs-thoughts-cutting-through-the-nonsense-on-borders-being-libertarian\/","title":{"rendered":"The Chief&#8217;s Thoughts: Cutting Through the Nonsense on Borders &#8211; Being Libertarian"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    I am an open-borders libertarian.  <\/p>\n<p>    That is bound to trigger a substantial amount of readers,    because upon reading that statement various preconceptions may    arise in their minds. I am a cuck who wants to see our    values be raped by foreigners; and I am a left-libertarian who    naively believe in tolerance when authoritarian Muslims will    never reciprocate.  <\/p>\n<p>    Except, neither of these things are true.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the contrary, I firmly identify myself with    right-libertarian values. Murray RothbardsThe Ethics    of Libertyis what I consider to be a libertarian    bible of sorts, and I subscribe to Hans-Hermann Hoppes    argumentation ethics in principle. I regard Western values as    vastly and unquestionably superior to anything else available,    and I regard Islamism and Islamic law as one of the    greatest threats to human freedom.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, I regard several other things as greater threats to    human freedom than even Islamism and Islamic law. Full    disclosure: I am a South African. South Africans do not have    the luxury of debating the petty differences between the    major parties who propose to increase taxes. In various parts    of Africa, the choice is between Ultimate Marxism, Advanced    Marxism, and Lite Marxism. Classical liberalism or even    American liberal Keynesianism are not even on the menu. And    if there was any doubt: This Marxism is the very same Marxism    which was thought up, developed, and exported from Europe.    Marxism is a Western ideology. And Marxism, not Islamism, is    what is actively leading to South Africas imminent economic    and social collapse.  <\/p>\n<p>    Socialism and all its branches and associates, which in the    United States and Europe, arecomingfrom    within, is the biggest threat to the continued survival of    Western civilization and Western freedom. Subtract mass    immigration or refugee intakes, and this problem remains    unchanged. In Europe, especially, it does not even matter who    immigrants vote for: Socialism has been part of the European    politicalfabric for centuries to greater and lesser    extents.  <\/p>\n<p>    Closed-borders libertarians propose to focus much time and    effort on a minor itch when there is a massive, gushing wound    which deserves more attention. But we oppose both! is the    inevitable answer  except, this is largely false. Individuals    like Donald Trump, Geert Wilders, and Marine Le Pen, despite    their blatantly-obvious socialist, or welfarist at least,    credentials, received widespread moral, if not practical    support from closed-borders libertarians. That is to say, these    individuals purposefully made the gushing wound bigger in order    to try and solve the itch. This, in America, while they were    actively condemning Rand Paul and Gary Johnson for    relatively superficial (but not unimportant)    imperfections.  <\/p>\n<p>    Do not get me wrong: I    agreewholeheartedlythat refugees should    not benefit in the slightest from welfare. In fact, I dont    think anyone should benefit from welfare. I have in discussions    proposed that instead of telling individuals fleeing for their    lives to fuck off, perhaps support very strict legal barriers    to them receiving welfare. But in these discussions, my    opponents inevitably move on to absurd positions like They use    our roads! Taxpayers  not refugees  paid for those roads! At    this stage, it becomes astoundingly clear that there is a    reasonableness deficit, for even when I point out that the    absolute poor citizens of a nation also often do not contribute    tax revenue to the maintenance of roads, they are still,    according to closed-borders libertarians, entitled to use the    roads. It is obvious from that stage onward that the concern is    not about the ethical principles of private property, whereby    those who do not contribute must not benefit, but rather about    a primitive nativism which is wholly unrelated to libertarian    theory.  <\/p>\n<p>    All this is to say that we need to ensure that we are not    talking past each other on the debate about borders.    Fundamentally  hopefully  both open and closed-borders    libertarians are on the same side, and differences are to be    expected. The problem arises when malicious strawmen are    erected whereby open-borders libertarians are accused of    enabling communism, supporting the death of Western    civilization, or, the most common strawman, that we oppose any    and all kinds of vetting. Open-borders libertarians almost    unanimously agree on what Austin Petersen would call the Ellis    Island model of immigration: a criminal background check and a    health check. What open-borders libertarians do oppose,    however, is when government has the audacity as a fundamentally    anti-economic institution, to tell an immigrant that their    skills arent needed or some other lame reason which    government has no right to rely upon.  <\/p>\n<p>    The borders debate has led to much unnecessary tension in the    libertarian movement, but has led to necessary debate. My    concern is that both sides are talking past each other and, if    the strawmen can be set aside, we might be able to discuss the    topic with some more understanding. We do, after all, believe    in the very same principles.  <\/p>\n<p>      This post was written by Martin van Staden.    <\/p>\n<p>      The views expressed here belong to the author and do not      necessarily reflect our views and opinions.    <\/p>\n<p>            Martin van Staden is the Editor in Chief of Being            Libertarian, the Legal Researcher at the Free Market            Foundation, a co-founder of the RationalStandard.com,            and the Southern African Academic Programs Director at            Students For Liberty. The views expressed in his            articles are his own and do not represent any of the            aforementioned organizations.          <\/p>\n<p>      Like Loading...    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Excerpt from:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/beinglibertarian.com\/chiefs-thoughts-cutting-nonsense-borders\/\" title=\"The Chief's Thoughts: Cutting Through the Nonsense on Borders - Being Libertarian\">The Chief's Thoughts: Cutting Through the Nonsense on Borders - Being Libertarian<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> I am an open-borders libertarian. That is bound to trigger a substantial amount of readers, because upon reading that statement various preconceptions may arise in their minds. 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