{"id":189319,"date":"2017-04-25T04:43:02","date_gmt":"2017-04-25T08:43:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/ann-coulter-berkeley-address-howard-deans-legal-argument-national-review\/"},"modified":"2017-04-25T04:43:02","modified_gmt":"2017-04-25T08:43:02","slug":"ann-coulter-berkeley-address-howard-deans-legal-argument-national-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/ann-coulter-berkeley-address-howard-deans-legal-argument-national-review\/","title":{"rendered":"Ann Coulter Berkeley Address: Howard Dean&#8217;s Legal Argument &#8230; &#8211; National Review"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    On MSNBC yesterday,    former Vermont Governor and DNC Chair Howard Dean elaborated on    his argument that Ann Coulters upcoming speech at Berkeley    does not have to occur because hate speech is not protected    by the First Amendment:  <\/p>\n<p>      Okay, several things to think about. One, the United States      has the most far-reaching protections on speech of any      country in the world. Two, its not absolute. Three, there      are three Supreme Court cases you need to know about. One,      the most recent, a John Roberts opinion, the Phelps people,      that church out in Kansas, had a right to picket horrible      offensive signs at military funerals. Well, two, in 2002, the      Supreme Court said cross burning was illegal because it could      incite violence. And three, Chaplinsky, the      Chaplinsky case in 1942 said that speech was not      permitted if it included fighting words that were likely to      incite violence.    <\/p>\n<p>      This is not a clear-cut carrying on the way the Right does.      The Right loves to be able to say anything they like, no      matter how offensive it is. Well, Ann Coulter has used words      that you cannot use on television to describe Jews, blacks,      gays, Muslims immigrants, and Hispanics. I think that theres      a case to be made that that invokes the Chaplinsky      decision, which is fighting words, likely to cause      violence. I think Berkeley is within its rights to make the      decision that it puts their campus in danger if they have her      there. Ill be the first to admit its a close call.    <\/p>\n<p>    Actually, its not a close call; Dean is making the wrong call    under the Constitution. Deans entire answer piles wrong    argument atop wrong argument until he completes a Dagwood    sandwich of wrong.  <\/p>\n<p>    Dean cites three court cases, and he mischaracterizes the    decisions in all of them. The first case he references,    Snyder v. Phelps, was an 8 to 1 decision in favor of    the Westboro Baptist Churchs freedom to chant the horrible    slogans and hold up the horrible banners it favors at a    military funeral. If the church is free to protest at a    military funeral, it makes no sense to argue that Ann Coulter    is not free to give a speech at Berkeley. Dean is perhaps    unknowingly citing a case that argues the reverse of his    position.  <\/p>\n<p>    The second case Dean cites, Virginia v. Black, struck    down a state law that deemed cross-burning a prima facie    attempt at intimidation. The decision was complicated, with    multiple justices concurring in part and dissenting in part,    but its upshot was that if prosecutors wanted to charge someone    with a crime for burning a cross, they had to prove that the    cross-burner intended his action as a threat.  <\/p>\n<p>    Criminal threats, intimidation and criminal harassment are    already crimes on the books in many states. If Ann Coulter    explicitly threatens an individual in her speech, she can be    charged with a crime for that. But whatever her flaws, Coulter    is unlikely to make an explicit incitement to violence in a    speech at Berkeley.  <\/p>\n<p>    The third case Dean cites, Chaplinsky v. New    Hampshire, has come up a bit more frequently    as of late.     Eugene Volokh points out that while the Chaplinsky    precedent hasnt yet been struck down, subsequent decisions    have drastically narrowed its definition of fighting words.    In 1971, the court ruled that a vulgar phrase on a jacket    didnt fall within said definition because it was unlikely that    any individual actually or likely to be present could    reasonably have regarded the words to be a direct personal    insult. In R.A.V.    v. City of St. Paul, the Court struck down a    hate-crime statute, decreeing that the state can restrict    speech to a certain time, place, or manner, but only if those    restrictions were justified without reference to the content    of the regulated speech. (I.e., the government can ban    flag-burning by, say, banning all outdoor fires in certain    areas, but not explicitly because it dishonors the U.S. flag.)  <\/p>\n<p>    Without knowing what Coulter would say in her speech, Dean    suggests that it would contain fighting words, given her    history of using words you cant say on television to    describe minorities. Given the words you cant say on    television have no bearing on the constitutionality of an    (as-yet-undelivered) speech at Berkeley, the one-time    front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination seems    to be insisting that just by being offensive, Coulters words    incite violence and must be restricted and banned. It is fair    to ask Dean and his ilk why they are so focused on restricting    and punishing speech that supposedly incites violence and    much less focused on punishing those who actually commit    violent acts.  <\/p>\n<p>    If Deans real desire is to ban speech that he doesnt like, he    should just say so.  <\/p>\n<p>     Jim Geraghty is    National Reviews senior political    correspondent.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Visit link:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/article\/446995\/ann-coulter-berkeley-speech-howard-dean-dubious-legal-argument-fighting-words\" title=\"Ann Coulter Berkeley Address: Howard Dean's Legal Argument ... - National Review\">Ann Coulter Berkeley Address: Howard Dean's Legal Argument ... - National Review<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> On MSNBC yesterday, former Vermont Governor and DNC Chair Howard Dean elaborated on his argument that Ann Coulters upcoming speech at Berkeley does not have to occur because hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment: Okay, several things to think about.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/first-amendment-2\/ann-coulter-berkeley-address-howard-deans-legal-argument-national-review\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94877],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-189319","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-first-amendment-2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/189319"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/7"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=189319"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/189319\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=189319"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=189319"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=189319"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}