{"id":188140,"date":"2017-04-17T12:37:09","date_gmt":"2017-04-17T16:37:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/who-designed-the-designer-common-sense-atheism\/"},"modified":"2017-04-17T12:37:09","modified_gmt":"2017-04-17T16:37:09","slug":"who-designed-the-designer-common-sense-atheism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/atheism\/who-designed-the-designer-common-sense-atheism\/","title":{"rendered":"Who Designed the Designer? &#8211; Common Sense Atheism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Redated from Jan. 13, 2010.    <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    Today I want to kill one of atheisms sacred cows. I want to    kill one of atheisms most popular and resilient retorts.  <\/p>\n<p>    One of atheisms sacred cows is the Who designed the    designer? response.Heres how it works:  <\/p>\n<p>      THEIST: There is so much complexity in the world, it must      have been designed by an Intelligent Designer. The best      explanation for our world is an Intelligent Designer.    <\/p>\n<p>      ATHEIST: But then who designed the Designer?    <\/p>\n<p>      THEIST: Nobody. (Or perhaps: I dont know.)    <\/p>\n<p>      ATHEIST: Well then you have explained nothing.    <\/p>\n<p>    This is a highly popular objection. For example, heres    Christopher Hitchens:  <\/p>\n<p>      the postulate of a designer or creator only raises the      unanswerable question of who designed the designer or created      the creator. Religion and theology have consistently failed      to overcome this objection.    <\/p>\n<p>    Or, philosopher     Rebecca Goldstein:  <\/p>\n<p>      Who caused God? [Theists offer] a prime example of the      Fallacy of Passing the Buck: invoking God to solve some      problem, but then leaving unanswered that very same problem      when applied to God himself.    <\/p>\n<p>    So this is fatal to theism, right?  <\/p>\n<p>    No. Wrong. The atheist has not offered a strong objection.  <\/p>\n<p>    Let me be clear. I agree that God did it is    generally a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad explanation    for complexity or, well, pretty much anything. God did it    does generally fail as an explanation.  <\/p>\n<p>    But it does not fail merely because the theist has no    explanation for his explanation (God). That is not the    problem with offering God did it as an explanation.  <\/p>\n<p>    The problem with offering God did it as an explanation is    that such an explanation has low plausibility, is not testable,    has poor consistency with background knowledge, comes from a    tradition (supernaturalism) with extreme explanatory failure,    lacks simplicity, offers no predictive novelty, and has poor    explanatory scope. It fails to provide almost everything    philosophers and scientists look for in a successful    explanation. That is why God did it is generally a    horrible explanation, not because it leaves the    explanation itself (God) unexplained.  <\/p>\n<p>    Let us ask ourselves what would happen if we required that a    successful explanation must itself be explained.  <\/p>\n<p>    This would lead immediately to an infinite regress of    explanations. We would need to have an explanation of the    explanation, and an explanation of the explanation of the    explanation, and an explanation of the explanation of the    explanation of the explanation on into infinity. And thus, we    would never be able to explain anything.  <\/p>\n<p>    Moreover, this is not how science works. Examples from physics    are the most obvious. In order to explain certain quantum    phenomena, scientists have posited the existence of dozens of    invisible particles with very particular properties that yield    predictable results. These have been some of the most    successful explanations in all of scientific history, yielding    the most accurate experimental results we have ever    achieved. And yet we have no explanations whatsoever    for the particles that we have offered as explanations for the    quantum phenomena.  <\/p>\n<p>    The reason that the details of the Standard Model of    Particle Physics are accepted as good explanations for    quantum phenomena is because these explanations are plausible,    they are extremely testable, they have strong consistency with    background knowledge, they come from a tradition (natural    science) with great explanatory success, they are relatively    simple, they offer much predictive novelty, and they have    strong explanatory scope. It doesnt matter that we    have no explanation whatsoever for the explanations themselves.  <\/p>\n<p>    One more example. Ludwig    Boltzmann explained heat by positing tiny, unobserved    particles (which we now call atoms). Boltzmanns theory was    superior to earlier phenomenological theories of heat, even    though his explanation (a mess of tiny particles) was itself    totally unexplained.  <\/p>\n<p>    So the problem with the atheist sacred cow of Who designed the    designer? is that it misses the point. God did it    is a horrible explanation, but not because    theists cant tell us what the explanation for the designer is.    There are other reasons why God did it is generally    a horrible explanation, and that is what atheists    should be trying to communicate.  <\/p>\n<p>    Despite repeated attempts to explain all this to my atheist    readers, many still insist that successful explanations must    themselves be explained. At this point, I dont know what else    to do except to quote some scholars in an attempt to bludgeon    my fellow atheists into accepting this basic principle in    philosophy of science. \ud83d\ude42  <\/p>\n<p>    Heres atheist philosopher of science Peter Lipton:  <\/p>\n<p>      The why-regress is a feature of the logic of explanation that      many of us discovered as children, to our parents cost. I      vividly recall the moment it dawned on me that, whatever my      mothers answer to my latest why-question, I could simply      retort by asking Why? of the answer itself, until my mother      ran out of answers or patience    <\/p>\n<p>      [But] explanations need not themselves be understood. A      drought may explain a poor crop, even if we dont understand      why there was a drought; I understand why you didnt come to      the party if you explain you had a bad headache, even if I      have no idea why you had a headache; the big bang explains      the background radiation, even if the big bang is itself      inexplicable, and so on    <\/p>\n<p>      the [why-regress] argument brings out the important facts      that explanations can be chained, and that what explains need      not itself be understood    <\/p>\n<p>    Or consider atheist philosopher of scienceMichael    Friedman. Notice that he assumes our explanations may not    themselves be explained, but that explanations succeed in    increasing our understanding of the world:  <\/p>\n<p>      [Consider] the old argument that science is incapable of      explaining anything because the basic phenomena to which      others are reduced are themselves neither explained nor      understood. According to this argument, science merely      transfers our puzzlement from one phenomenon to another The      answer, as I see it, is that.. we dont simply replace one      phenomenon with another. We replace one phenomenon with      amore comprehensive phenomenon, and thereby      genuinely increase our understanding of the world.    <\/p>\n<p>    And heres atheist philosopher of religion Gregory    Dawes:  <\/p>\n<p>      Richard Dawkins, for instance, writes that to explain the      machinery of life by invoking a supernatural Designer is to      explain precisely nothing. Why? Because it leaves      unexplained the origin of the designer.    <\/p>\n<p>      [Dawkins' idea is] that religious explanations are      unacceptable because they leave unexplained the existence of      their explanans (God). Dawkins apparently assumes      that every successful explanation should also explain its own      explanans. But this is an unreasonable demand. Many      of our most successful explanations raise new puzzles and      present us with new questions to be answered.    <\/p>\n<p>    Finally, atheist philosopher of metaphysics John Post:  <\/p>\n<p>      there cannot be an infinite regress of explanations Again      the reasons are not practical, such as the finiteness of our      faculties, but logic or conceptual, entailed by the very      notions of explanations involved. Even for an infinite      intellect, regresses of such explanations must end.    <\/p>\n<p>    Why do I want to kill this sacred cow of atheism?  <\/p>\n<p>    First, because I am not loyal to atheism per se, but    to truth and reason.  <\/p>\n<p>    Second, because I want atheists to stop giving arguments and    objections that are so easily rebutted.  <\/p>\n<p>    Third, because I want atheists to focus on objections that    really matter. When a believer offers God did it as    the best explanation for something, our question should    not be Well then who designed the designer? but    instead Why is God the best explanation for that? Will    you explain, please?  <\/p>\n<p>    The theist has a good answer to the first question. He    wont have a good answer for the second one. Not if    youre prepared:  <\/p>\n<p>      This great book shows why God is a poor explanation for      anything.    <\/p>\n<p>      Previous post: News      Bits    <\/p>\n<p>      Next post: Hitler the Atheist    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/commonsenseatheism.com\/?p=6113\" title=\"Who Designed the Designer? - Common Sense Atheism\">Who Designed the Designer? - Common Sense Atheism<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Redated from Jan.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/atheism\/who-designed-the-designer-common-sense-atheism\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[162381],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-188140","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-atheism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/188140"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=188140"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/188140\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=188140"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=188140"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=188140"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}