{"id":187675,"date":"2017-04-13T23:47:57","date_gmt":"2017-04-14T03:47:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/the-guardian-view-on-immortality-not-for-the-faint-hearted-the-guardian\/"},"modified":"2017-04-13T23:47:57","modified_gmt":"2017-04-14T03:47:57","slug":"the-guardian-view-on-immortality-not-for-the-faint-hearted-the-guardian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/immortality\/the-guardian-view-on-immortality-not-for-the-faint-hearted-the-guardian\/","title":{"rendered":"The Guardian view on immortality: not for the faint-hearted &#8211; The Guardian"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Good Friday seems a suitable    day to consider the fact that, in an era in which life    expectancy everywhere has almost doubled, humankind is more    confused than ever aboutdeath. Nearly half of the British population    supposes that death is complete annihilation; an almost equal    number still believes in some form of life after death, and,    for a subject notably lacking in eyewitness data, a    surprisingly small proportion, less than 10%, acknowledge they    do not know what happens. Meanwhile, in California but also    elsewhere, there are enormously rich men who believe that death    is a problem witha    technological solution which they hope to live to profit    from.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ideals of technological immortality come in two sorts. There    are those who hope that their bodies will be preserved or at least prolonged almost    indefinitely, usually by freezing. There is absolutely no    reason to suppose that the present    technology allows brains to be frozen and rethawed without    being reduced to a unworkable state. To hope that this will be    changed by some future breakthroughs is an act of faith at    least as remarkable as supposing that Jesus rose from the dead.    That belief was at least marked since its earliest appearance    by a saving ambiguity about what it might actually mean. Saint    Paul, for example, was absolutely certain it had happened but    nowhere managed to explain what it materially might have been.  <\/p>\n<p>    The second kind of technological immortality presumes an    immaterial soul  a pattern of electrical and chemical activity    that can be copied from brains into silicon and then    reactivated, either inside a computer or transferred back into    a conveniently available human brain. Possibly both: one    contemporary science fiction novel, Cory    Doctorows Walkaway, takes the idea of personalities as    computer programs to its logical consequence, and envisages    multiple copies of the same program  the same person  running    simultaneously on different networks. This is the closest    anyone will ever get to the fantasy of cloning identical human    beings.  <\/p>\n<p>    These approaches to the afterlife differ from most of the world    religions in that they have no moral aspect. Perhaps to the    believers it is a moral quality to be rich enough to afford    such fantasies, but to the rest of the world it looks like a    giant leap backwards. This amoral approach to immortality    reaches back to a world before the great proselytising world    religions. Christianity, Islam and Buddhism all have    conceptions of an afterlife which will make up for injustice    before death. This was an important novelty. Most other    religious systems, if they had any concept of an afterlife, had    one without justice. The twittering shades whom Odysseus fed    with blood were not being punished for anything except being    dead. The nearest that a ghost can come to justice is a craving    for revenge. Although belief in heaven and hell can gratify    that craving, so that a    Christian journalist, outraged by the slaughter of    Christians in Egypt this week, consoles himself that the    murderers will suffer a thousand times worse in hell, it has    also served to underpin a concept of justice wider than revenge    and capable of bringing an end to reprisals.  <\/p>\n<p>    A belief in heaven and hell tends to enforce social norms,    discouraging cheating on the one hand, but also holding the    potential to make this life pretty hellish for those who fall    outside the norms for any reason, including gay people. Social    liberalism often goes hand in hand with a rejection of the    afterlife, but so does destructive libertarianism. If this life    is all we have, success before death is the only kind worth    having. But who is to judge that success if not posterity? This    itself implies a kind of afterlife. To evoke posterity is to    weep on your own grave, as Robert Graves pointed out, and if you are    truly dead you cannot leave your grave to weep on it.  <\/p>\n<p>    Suppose, though, that the tech billionaires get their wish.    Would they be happy then? Theyd certainly be envied.    Immortality is after all a promise that people are prepared to    die for, whether in expectation of heaven, or of some earthly    miracle that will revive their frozen corpses. The possessors    would certainly be    prepared to kill to retain it. But once attained, at    whatever cost to the rest ofus, would it satisfy?  <\/p>\n<p>    The prospect of a    life infinitely prolonged becomes after some time the    prospect of infinite futility. Its often said that heaven    would be extremely boring because all the interesting people    end up in hell. But even the company of saints would be    preferable tothat of the disciples of Ayn Rand.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>The rest is here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/commentisfree\/2017\/apr\/13\/the-guardian-view-on-immortality-not-for-the-fainthearted\" title=\"The Guardian view on immortality: not for the faint-hearted - The Guardian\">The Guardian view on immortality: not for the faint-hearted - The Guardian<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Good Friday seems a suitable day to consider the fact that, in an era in which life expectancy everywhere has almost doubled, humankind is more confused than ever aboutdeath. Nearly half of the British population supposes that death is complete annihilation; an almost equal number still believes in some form of life after death, and, for a subject notably lacking in eyewitness data, a surprisingly small proportion, less than 10%, acknowledge they do not know what happens. Meanwhile, in California but also elsewhere, there are enormously rich men who believe that death is a problem witha technological solution which they hope to live to profit from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/immortality\/the-guardian-view-on-immortality-not-for-the-faint-hearted-the-guardian\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187740],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-187675","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-immortality"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187675"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=187675"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187675\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=187675"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=187675"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=187675"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}