{"id":187455,"date":"2017-04-12T09:06:11","date_gmt":"2017-04-12T13:06:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/idaho-libertarian-conservatives-furious-about-otters-vetoes-of-licensing-civil-forfeiture-pacific-northwest-inlander-blog\/"},"modified":"2017-04-12T09:06:11","modified_gmt":"2017-04-12T13:06:11","slug":"idaho-libertarian-conservatives-furious-about-otters-vetoes-of-licensing-civil-forfeiture-pacific-northwest-inlander-blog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/libertarian\/idaho-libertarian-conservatives-furious-about-otters-vetoes-of-licensing-civil-forfeiture-pacific-northwest-inlander-blog\/","title":{"rendered":"Idaho libertarian conservatives furious about Otter&#8217;s vetoes of licensing, civil forfeiture &#8211; Pacific Northwest Inlander (blog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    \"He had a real opportunity to demonstrate that he is on the    side of liberty,\" says Wayne Hoffman, director of the Idaho    Freedom Foundation. \"He failed miserably.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    The most recent outrage: Otter's vetoes of a cosmetology    licensure bill and a civil forfeiture bill. Both are key issues    for libertarians, who argue that requiring licenses for jobs    like \"barber\" or \"makeup artist\" end up punishing entrepreneurs    and newcomers, in order to artificially shield established    businesses from would-be competition.  <\/p>\n<p>    Meanwhile, when they look at civil forfeiture where police can seize    cash and other personal property without a conviction if they    suspect it may be connected to certain crimes  they see    serious due-process violations.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Idaho Governor Flips Off Libertarians With Both Hands, Vetoes    Asset Forfeiture AND Licensing Reforms,\" reads a headline at    the libertarian Reason magazine. The    subhead reads: \"Is he trying to make libertarians angry, or is    he just a puppet of special interests?\"  <\/p>\n<p>    North Idaho Rep. Vito Barbieri is not exactly a libertarian.    (Here he is expounding on Islama couple of years ago, for    example.) But a recent Facebook post showed just how little    respect some conservatives have for the Republican governor.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Governor Otter hasn't a Republican bone in his body, acting    more like a public school teacher bent on growing the    Administrative State over public interests, than a Statesman    with character, guts, and vision,\" Barbieri writes.    \"[Republicans in Name Only] like Otter put State needs first,    Administrative bureaucrats second, and taxpayers last. It's too    bad we have to wait two more years to put this self-proclaimed    libertarian cowboy out to pasture.\"    Compared to some attempted civil forfeiture reforms, like those    that require a guilty verdict before any property is taken, the    Idaho bill was modest. It would require more evidence that    property had been associated with a crime than simply    proximity. And it would require law enforcement agencies to    start tracking how much civil forfeiture money is being    collected, and what it's being spent on.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"We ask law enforcement to explain how they utilize civil asset    forfeiture,\" Hoffman says. \"They dont have an answer. They    cant really find out.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    The bill was popular in the legislature. Nobody in the Idaho    Senate voted against it, and only a handful of state    representatives, including Coeur d'Alene Reps. Luke Malek and    Paul Amador, voted against it in the House.  <\/p>\n<p>    But in Otter's veto message, he called the bill a solution in    search of a problem.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"There have been no allegations that Idaho law enforcement    officers are illegally or inappropriately seizing property from    alleged drug traffickers,\" he says in a statement.  <\/p>\n<p>    The accuracy of that statement depends on the definition of    \"inappropriate.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    An investigation in the Twin Falls Times-News revealed    a case in 2010, when Twin Falls County Sheriffs deputies    raided the home of a couple they suspected were selling drugs.    Theynetted a small baggie of marijuana and$12,010    in cash. The couple was never charged with anything, but the    sheriff returned only $3,000.  <\/p>\n<p>    Then there's an anecdote shared by theDKT Liberty    Project, which alleges that Idaho State Police pulled over a    35-year-old driver and searched his car when they were alerted    by drug-sniffing dogs.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Although they didnt find any drugs, they did find $4,200 in    cash, which the man had set aside to pay for his divorce    lawyer,\" writes AC Bushnell, program director for the Liberty    Project. The state patrol refused to repay the money.  <\/p>\n<p>    Otter argues that if you're selling drugs, you should be    afraid of losing your property.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"It is my view that it is right and proper for drug dealers to    have a healthy fear of losing their personal assets if they are    caught breaking the law,\" Otter continues. \"But while seeking    to ease those fears, this legislation goes even further by    placing an annual reporting requirement on law enforcement.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Reason writer Eric Boehm responds with snark.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Who needs accountability from the police?\" he writes.    \"Certainly not Otter, who seems willing to believe anything the    law enforcement special interests' lobbyists tell him.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    The cosmetology bill, meanwhile, was a little more    controversial, but still received broad support. It would have combined the    barber and cosmetology boards, reduced the hours required for a    license, and exempted some stylists  like wedding makeup    artists or people demonstrating hair curlers at malls  from    the licensure requirements.  <\/p>\n<p>    Otter's biggest objection was to an amendment that allowed the    board to retroactively reinstate an expired license.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"I will not allow the State of Idaho to be subjected to legal    liability for falsely representing the licensure status of    those seeking federal student loans for their training,\" Otter    writes in his veto statement.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"That is clear and complete horseshit,\" Hoffman says. He cites    an example of a person who ran a cosmetology college in Twin    Falls and ended up losing accreditation because his licensing    agreement had lapsed.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"A libertarian governor would say, 'Oh my gosh, we drove him    out of business!'\" Hoffman says. \"What can we do to save this    businessman in Twin Falls from having to go under?\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Earlier this year, Hoffman and Reason also took aim at    Otter's vetoof a bill allowing the use of    Cannabidiol oils.   <\/p>\n<p>    As for Barbieri? Here's Vito on the vetoes:<\/p>\n<p>      Otter's Veto stamp proves once and for all RINO's have a      perfect example from which to emulate their talk of citizen      liberty while acting to empower bureaucrats.    <\/p>\n<p>      Tax food? No problem. It's a steady source of Revenue for the      Bureaucratic State.    <\/p>\n<p>      Protect licensing Boards, limit competition, and regulate      dangerous occupations like sign language and hair cutters?      Certainly! Gotta consider those self-serving 'stakeholders'!    <\/p>\n<p>      Two of Otter's recent Veto's have the same ideological base      as his Veto seven years ago of the State Nullification      effort: They ALL protect the status quo with the effect of      limiting legislative power to represent the taxpayers of      Idaho.    <\/p>\n<p>      RINO's like Otter put State needs first, Administrative      bureaucrats second, and taxpayers last.    <\/p>\n<p>      It's too bad we have to wait two more years to put this      self-proclaimed libertarian cowboy out to pasture.    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to read the rest: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.inlander.com\/Bloglander\/archives\/2017\/04\/10\/idaho-libertarian-conservatives-furious-about-otters-veto-of-licensing-civil-forfeiture\" title=\"Idaho libertarian conservatives furious about Otter's vetoes of licensing, civil forfeiture - Pacific Northwest Inlander (blog)\">Idaho libertarian conservatives furious about Otter's vetoes of licensing, civil forfeiture - Pacific Northwest Inlander (blog)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> \"He had a real opportunity to demonstrate that he is on the side of liberty,\" says Wayne Hoffman, director of the Idaho Freedom Foundation. \"He failed miserably.\" The most recent outrage: Otter's vetoes of a cosmetology licensure bill and a civil forfeiture bill. 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