{"id":187114,"date":"2017-04-10T03:11:26","date_gmt":"2017-04-10T07:11:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/is-liberty-worth-fighting-for-rethinking-libertarian-foreign-policy-being-libertarian-satire\/"},"modified":"2017-04-10T03:11:26","modified_gmt":"2017-04-10T07:11:26","slug":"is-liberty-worth-fighting-for-rethinking-libertarian-foreign-policy-being-libertarian-satire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/libertarian\/is-liberty-worth-fighting-for-rethinking-libertarian-foreign-policy-being-libertarian-satire\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Liberty Worth Fighting For? Rethinking Libertarian Foreign Policy &#8211; Being Libertarian (satire)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Editors note: The following article was submitted before    the Trump administrations decision to attack Syrian military    targets.  <\/p>\n<p>    Libertarians are, as we all know, anti-war. And for very good    reasons, even the good wars can have terrible consequences    such as the Japanese-American internment camps during WWII. War    has long been an excuse by governments to clamp down on the    rights of its citizens, or even to remove     political opponents outright. And then you have the horrors    of actual combat: countless soldiers killed in conflicts they    dont understand, countries destroyed, displaced nations of    people and ruined economies. Anything short of an extreme    aversion to starting wars is outright    irresponsibility.  <\/p>\n<p>    But not everyone cares about those consequences. North Korea    invaded South Korea, and dictators use machine guns on    protestors. Time and again, the enemies of liberty have proven    more than willing to resort to violence to gain and keep power.  <\/p>\n<p>    And yet, how do most libertarians respond to Bashar al-Assads    atrocities, such as     massacring 13,000 of his own people in a single prison? The    better of us say not my problem. The worst of us hope he    succeeds, and criticize Western governments supporting Syrians    trying to oust him. After all, they say, hes better than ISIS    right? That the various factions in Syria are currently    fighting over ISISs corpse shows that assessment is    also so, so wrong.  <\/p>\n<p>    To me, the libertarian debate about Syria should be do we    support the FSA or SDF more? I should never have had to make a    case against a murderous authoritarian dictator to    libertarians. It was this issue which first got me    questioning the libertarian perspective on foreign policy.    After a while, I realized that we are in fact more anti-war    than pro-liberty. Ive already made the case for why we    should be anti-war, but then we are also anti-taxes.    Very few of us support actually abolishing taxation (despite it    being theft, of course). We simply have a very healthy    skepticism about it; I propose the same response to war.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hearing libertarians talk about why we shouldnt be fighting    for liberty abroad (or supporting freedom fighters), I get the    vibe of A single American life or dollar is too high a cost to    pay in a conflict that doesnt directly affect us. It is often    heavy with implication that the liberty of people in our nation    is worth more, much more, than the liberty of those abroad. If    that sounds familiar its because weve heard this before.  <\/p>\n<p>    Libertarians and nationalists have the exact same foreign    policy for nearly identical reasons. If thats not raising    alarm bells for you, it should. We are    completely opposed to them. Nationalists are, I firmly    believe, one of the greatest threats to liberty that we    currently face. Ignoring the cause of liberty abroad is    distinctly un-libertarian because it is anti-liberty and        a better libertarian case can be made for globalism (and global    thinking) than isolationism or America-Firstism.  <\/p>\n<p>    Something else I hear rather frequently is that our    interventions dont work. I believe this is mistaken, or at    least relatively so. For those who lament that the Middle    Eastern countries weve intervened in are not yet democratic    paradises, I implore you to look at South Korea. After the US    and UN fought and bled to keep it free, going up against the    massive Chinese army and sometimes the Soviet air force, it    took a long time to see a return on that investment. The    country was even a dictatorship for some time, and the economy    took decades to significantly improve. Now, the Korean    peninsula is a testament to the superiority of capitalism and        the recently impeached president is proof of how strong its    democracy is.  <\/p>\n<p>    I often hear people talk about the disaster that the Libyan    intervention was, but I believe this is a poor assessment.    Handily, we have a perfect example of what would be happening    right now if Gaddafi hadnt been deposed early on: Syria.    Endless parallels exist: largely non-ideological authoritarian    dictators, countries drawn up with arbitrary lines, the exact    same pro-democracy\/liberal\/libertarian movement demanding    reformsI could go on for ages. Libya isnt in great shape; the    situation there is volatile and precarious. But Islamists have    been almost eradicated militarily, whereas in Syria they are    well established within both regime and rebel forces. There are    also the death toll and humanitarian situation, which is many    times worse in Syria. If it werent for the intervention, Libya    would be what Syria is now and with an intervention, the    current situation in Syria could have been avoided.  <\/p>\n<p>    It is for these reasons that I believe we libertarians need to    craft our own foreign policy. We need a departure from the    anti-liberty policies of isolationist nationalists, but nowhere    near the war hawkishness of the neocons. So, what should this    foreign policy look like? I have a few ideas.  <\/p>\n<p>    There is no weapon or wall that is more powerful for American    security than America being envied, imitated and admired around    the world.      Garry Kasparov  <\/p>\n<p>    Ive focused fairly heavily so far on war and conflict, but    foreign policy encompasses so much more than that. Another area    where we should depart from the nationalists is our approach to    intergovernmental organizations such as the UN and NATO. As    libertarians, we need to be wary about them gaining too much    power, but without ignoring the immense good they can do. The    UN does a lot of fantastic humanitarian work, and both    organizations are very useful for reducing or averting conflict    amongst their members, and, in NATOs case, deterring Putins    imperialism.  <\/p>\n<p>    Another area of use is foreign aid, be it financial, arms,    supplies etc. With the exception of humanitarian aid, only    giving them to non-authoritarian countries incentivizes    peaceful reforms. During the latter part of the Obama    administration, he tried to provide support to some of the    remaining Communist countries in Southwest Asia, to turn them    into allies against China. I propose doing the opposite,    supporting capitalist and democratic countries in the Pacific    region. Spurning countries that compromise our values gives    people in oppressive countries something to strive for. Despite    obviously not being an-cap friendly, these strategies can help    reduce war and improve global liberty at relatively little    cost.  <\/p>\n<p>    As I have stated, war can only be a last resort. At present,    one of my greatest concerns is the potential for a war with    Iran. While Iran is a brutally authoritarian theocracy, I    believe peaceful reform is possible, and the mere existence of    an authoritarian government is not justification for starting a    war. Iraq is a superb example. The US invasion was completely    unjustified, and care needs to be taken to ensure that the    mistake is not repeated. Despite Saddam Hussein being a    ruthless dictator with a penchant for invading other countries    as well as crimes    against humanity, that simply wasnt enough in and of    itself to warrant foreigners starting a war.  <\/p>\n<p>    Almost ten years after the Iraq invasion, the Arab Spring    occurred and added a layer of complexity to the dynamic of the    Middle East which libertarians have abjectly failed to address.    We saw Western bombs and arms used in wars against Arab    dictators, and sure enough, there were similarities to Iraq.    But the Arab Spring wasnt an unprovoked invasion motivated by,    at best, incompetence; it was a grassroots, peaceful,    pro-democracy, even libertarian, movement demanding    reforms from dictatorial regimes across the Arab world. We    libertarians should have been as proud and happy about this    movement as unsurprised when the governments responded to the    protestors with machine guns instead of reforms. Instead, when    the people returned with weapons of their own to fight for    their rights and liberties, we completely turned against them.    The only concept more foreign to us than liberty or death is    helping them achieve liberty and avoid death. Some even talk    about how these tyrants are the best hope for    stability in the region and that overthrowing them is    that last thing we should want.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, what should we have supported doing in    response to these wars? I would like to refer back to the    American Revolution, one of the most celebrated historical    events by American libertarians. Like the Arab Spring, it    started with a largely peaceful and political libertarian    movement, and spiraled into war when the government cracked    down. It had a grassroots movement, political support, and    former military personnel like Washington. However, what is    often overlooked is the American Revolution would have been a    failure if not for large quantities of French arms, money, and    the direct assistance of their navy. This is exactly what I    propose. No starting wars, avoiding boots on the ground at all    cost. But should it come to war, and a popular movement tries    to depose an authoritarian government, providing support would    be remarkably easy and cheap for us and makes all of the    difference for them. This includes providing arms, air support,    logistics and supplies. Doing our utmost to screen the    recipients of arms is also incredibly important. Just as I am    adamant that supporting authoritarian regimes to fight    terrorism is not worth it, the inverse in true as well.  <\/p>\n<p>    Tyranny or terrorism? Neither, always neither. If you    condone, excuse, or normalize either, then you are NOT a voice    for liberation.      Iyad el-Baghdadi, self-proclaimed Islamic Libertarian and    Arab Spring activist.  <\/p>\n<p>    * Caleb Horner is a college student and a    relatively new member of the liberty movement. He loves to    explore history, politics, philosophy and economics in his    spare time.  <\/p>\n<p>      Like Loading...    <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>The rest is here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/beinglibertarian.com\/liberty-worth-fighting-rethinking-libertarian-foreign-policy\/\" title=\"Is Liberty Worth Fighting For? Rethinking Libertarian Foreign Policy - Being Libertarian (satire)\">Is Liberty Worth Fighting For? 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