{"id":186012,"date":"2017-04-02T08:26:50","date_gmt":"2017-04-02T12:26:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/is-patheos-catholic-liberal-patheos-blog\/"},"modified":"2017-04-02T08:26:50","modified_gmt":"2017-04-02T12:26:50","slug":"is-patheos-catholic-liberal-patheos-blog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/liberal\/is-patheos-catholic-liberal-patheos-blog\/","title":{"rendered":"Is Patheos Catholic Liberal? &#8211; Patheos (blog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>      Description      English: Illustration featuring Donald Trump and Hillary      Clinton with ribbon banners that say Republicans and      Democrats, along the republican elephant and democrat      donkey.      Date 29 July 2016      Source Own work      Author VectorOpenStock      (CC BY-SA 4.0)    <\/p>\n<p>    Lent    1 April 2017    The Edge of Elfland    Hudson, New Hampshire  <\/p>\n<p>    Dear Readers,  <\/p>\n<p>        My letter the other day about writing for Patheos Catholic has    opened up some interesting lines of dialogue. Im certainly    glad to have dispelled some rumors and gotten people paying    attention, at least a little bit, to whats going on here at    Patheos Catholic. Sadly, it seems that there are still more    problems to air out. Chief among them is whether or not Patheos    Catholic as a whole is liberal.  <\/p>\n<p>    One of my favorite comments, which is on my post on the Patheos    Catholic Facebook page, is:  <\/p>\n<p>      No, your [sic] in it (my opinion) for Communism Patheos.You      and your communist agenda!Shame on you..Why dont you go      live in El Salvador.And disappear for while!    <\/p>\n<p>    Now, the other commenters who are concerned about the    liberalism of Patheos Catholic were not so  enthusiastic. But    they nevertheless feel there is a strong liberal bias on the    channel. One commenter suggests that there are only about 20%    of our bloggers who, are traditional conservative Catholics.    That same commenter goes on to say, The other 80% are very    liberal. Half of the time their columns have nothing to do with    Catholicism or religion. These columns are just liberal rants    that could be found on any secular leftwing site. He goes even    further, suggesting, there is nothing Catholic (capital C)    about many of posts. So this, I believe, is a prevailing    opinion amongst a certain subset of Catholics concerning    Patheos Catholic. They view the channel as 80% (or more)    liberal\/communist and non-Catholic, maybe even anti-Catholic.    As a new Catholic myself, however, I just dont see it.  <\/p>\n<p>    There are 59 blogs hosted on the Patheos Catholic Channel. If    the one commenters estimations are correct, that means 47(.2)    of the blogs are liberal and might at times be    indistinguishable from an atheist or non-Catholic blog. Leaving    only 12 (11.8) who are considered traditional, conservative    Catholics. I asked for examples, but since the commenter has    stopped reading most Patheos blogs none were forthcoming    (though he has graciously offered to show one to me the next    time he sees one). Now, I cant claim intimate knowledge with    all 59 blogs and their writers at Patheos Catholic. But here    are some with whom I am well acquainted:  <\/p>\n<p>    Two key points about this list before I actually dig into what    I think it means: 1. This is not, necessarily, a list of the    best blogs on the channel. 2. It is simply a list of the blogs    which I have personally read and\/or whose authors I know to    some extent. Now, what I can definitively say about this list    is three things: 1. This list covers just over 42% of the blogs    hosted by Patheos Catholic. 2. There is not a blog on this list    that I think lacks a Catholic identity or whose content could    easily appear on a non- or anti-Catholic blog without    warranting any changes. 3. Every single one of these blogs is    different. Some of them focus on politics or economics, others    on apologetics (whether against atheists or anti-Catholic    Christians), still others on what it means to be Catholic. Some    are written by and about being Catholic converts while others    still are written by cradle Catholics. Some talk about what it    means to be gay and Catholic and others like to talk about    literature and\/or pop culture. Many, including my own, are some    alma gam of many of these topics.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, with my insider knowledge (also known as my ability to    read and to have read these blogs) that leads me to believe    none of them is anti-Catholic or that their content is    essentially aCatholic, what is it that makes readers think the    majority of us at Patheos Catholic are liberal? I can    honestly only come up with one, maybe two, answersthough I    think theyre likely related: Many of the authors who write    about politics at Patheos Catholic do not come from a    politically conservative point of view. What I think this    largely means is that when Patheos Catholic writers do write    about politics they dont write enough about abortion or they    say things like: abortion isnt the only pro-life concern.    Theres probably more to it than this. There are probably some    who think Patheos Catholic is liberal because of many of our    writers really like Pope Francis. And others dont think that    the Latin Mass is the ultimate form of the liturgy (our    Byzantine friends certainly find it funny when we Roman Rite    Catholics talk about the traditional Latin Mass, as though we    forgot the liturgy was first in Greek and Aramaic).  <\/p>\n<p>    So, do many of us write about issues such as the Dakota Access    Pipeline, the problems with Donald Trumps presidency, or why    we ought to take in refugees? Sure. Is any of this non- or    anti-Catholic? No. Is it even liberal? I would again say no.    Catholicism defies the political lines of liberal and    conservative. For Goodness sake, we have the corporal works of    mercy, the preferential treatment of the poor alongside the    belief that all life is sacred from conception to natural    death. And while you may find the occasional card-carrying    communist, youll also find card-carrying capitalists and if my    time reading texts such as Rerum novarum has taught me    anything, its that the fullness of Catholic Social Thought    cannot be found in its entirety in either system.  <\/p>\n<p>    Ill say this, too. If youre going to claim that were being    liberal, then you need to back it up (and to remember that we    are not a homogenous whole, as I pointed out in my previous    letter). But dont use that we dont agree politically as an    excuse to simply write us off as non-Catholics who ought to    just be writing for atheist, liberal blogs. Were Catholics.    Full stop.  <\/p>\n<p>    Sincerely,    David  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Originally posted here:<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/elflandletters\/2017\/04\/01\/patheos-catholic-liberal\/\" title=\"Is Patheos Catholic Liberal? - Patheos (blog)\">Is Patheos Catholic Liberal? - Patheos (blog)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Description English: Illustration featuring Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton with ribbon banners that say Republicans and Democrats, along the republican elephant and democrat donkey. Date 29 July 2016 Source Own work Author VectorOpenStock (CC BY-SA 4.0) Lent 1 April 2017 The Edge of Elfland Hudson, New Hampshire Dear Readers, My letter the other day about writing for Patheos Catholic has opened up some interesting lines of dialogue. Im certainly glad to have dispelled some rumors and gotten people paying attention, at least a little bit, to whats going on here at Patheos Catholic <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/liberal\/is-patheos-catholic-liberal-patheos-blog\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187824],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-186012","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liberal"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186012"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=186012"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/186012\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=186012"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=186012"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=186012"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}