{"id":185584,"date":"2017-03-31T06:55:33","date_gmt":"2017-03-31T10:55:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/existential-nihilism-atheism\/"},"modified":"2017-03-31T06:55:33","modified_gmt":"2017-03-31T10:55:33","slug":"existential-nihilism-atheism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/nihilism\/existential-nihilism-atheism\/","title":{"rendered":"Existential Nihilism &amp; Atheism&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>                          <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Existential_nihilism\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Existential_nihilism<\/a>                        <\/p>\n<p>                \"He rages most of all at the                thought that eternity might get it into its head to                take his misery from him!\"                Kierkegaard              <\/p>\n<p>                    The TL;DR is that meaning and purpose are                    ascribed to things by intelligent and conscious                    beings, and that we as human beings find                    meaning and purpose in all sorts of things - in                    relationships, in marriages, in friendships, in                    children, in our jobs, etc. Those meanings and                    purposes have all the value that we give to                    them quite aside from whether there is any God                    or not. Adding God only means there is one more                    sentient being who can have meanings and                    purposes and in that sense is no more relevant                    or important than adding one additional human.                  <\/p>\n<p>                            Doesn't existential nihilism follow                            naturally from atheism? That mankind,                            ultimately, is insignificant with no                            intrinsic meaning or purpose? If not,                            why not?                          <\/p>\n<p>                    I, personally, might be considered an                    existential nihilist, insofar as I don't                    believe \"meaning\" is something which CAN be                    objective-- it seems like an inherently                    subjective concept, to me.                  <\/p>\n<p>                  --Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c.                  1325)                <\/p>\n<p>        Post Thanks \/ Like - 1 Amen      <\/p>\n<p>                          I explained it                          The TL;DR is that meaning and purpose are                          ascribed to things by intelligent and                          conscious beings, and that we as human                          beings find meaning and purpose in all                          sorts of things - in relationships, in                          marriages, in friendships, in children,                          in our jobs, etc. Those meanings and                          purposes have all the value that we give                          to them quite aside from whether there is                          any God or not. Adding God only means                          there is one more sentient being who can                          have meanings and purposes and in that                          sense is no more relevant or important                          than adding one additional human.                        <\/p>\n<p>                    If our species went extinct tomorrow how would                    effect anything for the worse?                  <\/p>\n<p>                \"He rages most of all at the                thought that eternity might get it into its head to                take his misery from him!\"                Kierkegaard              <\/p>\n<p>        Post Thanks \/ Like - 1 Amen      <\/p>\n<p>                          Not necessarily. There are atheists                          who believe that mankind has intrinsic                          purpose even among philosophical                          naturalists, let alone                          supernaturalist atheists.                        <\/p>\n<p>                \"He rages most of all at the                thought that eternity might get it into its head to                take his misery from him!\"                Kierkegaard              <\/p>\n<p>                          And what would that intrinsic purpose be?                          Exactly.                        <\/p>\n<p>                  --Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c.                  1325)                <\/p>\n<p>                          The answers to that question vary, just                          as they do among theists. A humanist                          might answer that the intrinsic purpose                          of mankind is to help as much and to harm                          as little as possible. A Zen Buddhist                          might say that the intrinsic purpose of                          mankind is to discover the enlightenment                          latent in one's soul. A particularly                          morbid atheist might say that mankind's                          purpose is to die. Et cetera, et cetera.                        <\/p>\n<p>                \"He rages most of all at the                thought that eternity might get it into its head to                take his misery from him!\"                Kierkegaard              <\/p>\n<p>                          Well I don't know about the Buddhist                          thing, but I think your atheist point                          lines up with nihilism. As far as the                          humanist - where would he ever get the                          idea of intrinsic purpose? Not from                          nature. Do they just assert intrinsic                          purpose without a rational?                        <\/p>\n<p>                  --Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c.                  1325)                <\/p>\n<p>                            Doesn't existential nihilism follow                            naturally from atheism? That mankind,                            ultimately, is insignificant with no                            intrinsic meaning or purpose? If not,                            why not?                          <\/p>\n<p>        Post Thanks \/ Like - 2 Amen      <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read this article: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.theologyweb.com\/campus\/showthread.php?14011-Existential-Nihilism-amp-Atheism\" title=\"Existential Nihilism &amp; Atheism...\">Existential Nihilism &amp; Atheism...<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Existential_nihilism\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Existential_nihilism<\/a> \"He rages most of all at the thought that eternity might get it into its head to take his misery from him!\" Kierkegaard The TL;DR is that meaning and purpose are ascribed to things by intelligent and conscious beings, and that we as human beings find meaning and purpose in all sorts of things - in relationships, in marriages, in friendships, in children, in our jobs, etc.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/nihilism\/existential-nihilism-atheism\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":9,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187716],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-185584","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-nihilism"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185584"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/9"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=185584"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/185584\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=185584"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=185584"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=185584"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}