{"id":185561,"date":"2017-03-31T06:49:26","date_gmt":"2017-03-31T10:49:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/christian-atheism-wikipedia\/"},"modified":"2017-03-31T06:49:26","modified_gmt":"2017-03-31T10:49:26","slug":"christian-atheism-wikipedia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/atheism\/christian-atheism-wikipedia\/","title":{"rendered":"Christian atheism &#8211; Wikipedia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Christian atheism is a system of ethics which draws its    beliefs and practices from the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, as recorded in the Gospels    of the New    Testament and other sources, while rejecting the supernatural    claims of Christianity at large. Christian Atheism    takes many forms - some Christian Atheists take a theological position, in    which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist    God is rejected or absent in favor of    finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer), while others    follow Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton).    Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thomas Ogletree, Frederick Marquand Professor of Ethics and    Religious Studies at Yale Divinity School, lists    these four common beliefs:[1][2]  <\/p>\n<p>    According to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word    God itself is \"either meaningless or misleading\".[2] He contends that it is    impossible to think about God. Van Buren says that  <\/p>\n<p>      \"We cannot identify anything which will count for or against      the truth of our statements concerning      'God'\".[2]    <\/p>\n<p>    The inference from these claims to the \"either meaningless or    misleading\" conclusion is implicitly premised on the verificationist    theory of meaning. Most Christian atheists believe that God    never existed, but there are a few who believe in the death of    God literally.[3]Thomas J. J. Altizer is a well-known    Christian atheist who is known for his literal approach to the    death of God. He often speaks of God's death as a redemptive    event. In his book The Gospel of Christian Atheism he    speaks of how  <\/p>\n<p>      \"Every man today who is open to experience knows that God is      absent, but only the Christian knows that God is dead, that      the death of God is a final and irrevocable event, and that      God's death has actualized in our history a new and liberated      humanity\".[4]    <\/p>\n<p>    Theologians including Altizer and Lyas looked at the    scientific, empirical culture of today and tried to find    religion's place in it. In Altizer's words,  <\/p>\n<p>      \"No longer can faith and the world exist in mutual      isolationthe radical Christian condemns all forms of faith      that are disengaged with the world.\"[4]    <\/p>\n<p>    He goes on to say that our response to atheism should be one of    \"acceptance and affirmation\".[4]    Colin Lyas, a Philosophy lecturer at Lancaster University, stated that  <\/p>\n<p>      \"Christian atheists are united also in the belief that any      satisfactory answer to these problems must be an answer that      will make life tolerable in this world, here and now and      which will direct attention to the social and other problems      of this life.\"[3]    <\/p>\n<p>    Altizer has said that  <\/p>\n<p>      \"the radical Christian... believes that the ecclesiastical      tradition has ceased to be Christian\".[4]    <\/p>\n<p>    He believed that orthodox Christianity no longer had any    meaning to people because it did not discuss Christianity    within the context of contemporary theology. Christian atheists    want to be completely separated from most orthodox Christian    beliefs and biblical traditions.[5]    Altizer states that a faith will not be completely pure if it    is open to modern culture. This faith \"can never identify    itself with an ecclesiastical tradition or with a given    doctrinal or ritual form.\" He goes on to say that faith cannot    \"have any final assurance as to what it means to be a    Christian\".[4] Altizer    said, \"We must not, he says, seek for the sacred by saying 'no'    to the radical profanity of our age, but by saying 'yes' to    it\".[5] They see religions which    withdraw from the world as moving away from truth. This is part    of the reason why they see the existence of God as    counter-progressive. Altizer wrote of God as the enemy to man    because mankind could never reach its fullest potential while    God existed.[4] He went    on to state that \"to cling to the Christian God in our time is    to evade the human situation of our century and to renounce the    inevitable suffering which is its lot\".[4]  <\/p>\n<p>    Although Jesus is still a central feature of Christian atheism,    Hamilton said that to the Christian atheist, Jesus is not    really the foundation of faith; instead, he is a \"place to be,    a standpoint\".[5] Christian    atheists look to Jesus as an example of what a Christian should    be, but they do not see him as God.  <\/p>\n<p>    Hamilton wrote that following Jesus means being \"alongside the    neighbor, being for him\",[5] and that    to follow Jesus means to be human, to help other humans, and to    further humankind.  <\/p>\n<p>    Other Christian atheists such as Thomas Altizer preserve the    divinity of Jesus, arguing that through him God negates God's    transcendence of being.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the Netherlands, 42% of the members of the Protestant Church in the    Netherlands (PKN) are nontheists.[6] Non-belief among    clergymen is not always perceived as a problem. Some follow the    tradition of Christian non-realism, most famously expounded    in the UK by Don Cupitt in the 1980s, which holds that God is a    symbol or metaphor and that religious language is not matched    by a transcendent reality. According to an investigation of 860    pastors in seven Dutch Protestant denominations, 1 in 6 clergy    are either agnostic or atheist. In one of those denominations,    the Remonstrant Brotherhood, the number of doubters was 42    percent.[7][8] A    minister of the PKN, Klaas Hendrikse has described God as \"a    word for experience, or human experience\" and said that Jesus    may have never existed. Hendrikse gained    attention with his book published in November 2007, in which he    said that it was not necessary to believe in God's existence in    order to believe in 'God'. The Dutch title of the book    translates as, 'Believing in a God who does not exist:    manifesto of an atheist pastor'. Hendrikse writes in the book.    'God is for me not a being but a word for what can happen    between people. Someone says to you, for example, 'I will not    abandon you', and then makes those words come true. It would be    perfectly alright to call that [relationship] God.' A General    Synod found Klaas Hendrikse's views were widely    shared among both clergy and church members. The February 3,    2010 decision to allow Hendrikse to continue working as a    pastor followed the advice of a regional supervisory panel that    the statements by Hendrikse, are not of sufficient weight to    damage the foundations of the Church. The ideas of Hendrikse    are theologically not new, and are in keeping with the liberal    tradition that is an integral part of our church, the special    panel concluded.[7]  <\/p>\n<p>    A Harris Interactive survey from 2003    found that 90% of self-identified Protestants in the United States    believe in God, and about 4% of American Protestants believe    there is no God.[9]  <\/p>\n<p>    Catholic atheism is a belief in which the culture, traditions, rituals,    and norms of Catholicism are accepted, but the existence    of God is rejected. It is illustrated in Miguel de    Unamuno's novel San Manuel Bueno, Mrtir    (1930). According to research in 2007, only 27% of Catholics in    the Netherlands considered themselves theist, while 55% were    ietsist or agnostic deist, and 17% were    agnostic or atheist. Many Dutch people    still affiliate with the term \"Catholic\", and use it within    certain traditions as a basis of their cultural identity,    rather than as a religious identity. The vast majority of the    Catholic population in the Netherlands is now largely    irreligious in practice.[6]  <\/p>\n<p>    In his book Mere Christianity, the apologist C. S. Lewis would object to Hamilton's    version of Christian Atheism and the claim that Jesus was    merely a moral guide:  <\/p>\n<p>      \"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish      thing that people often say about Him: 'I'm ready to accept      Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept his claim      to be God.' That is the one thing we must not say. A man who      was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would      not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunaticon      the level with the man who says he is a poached eggor else      he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice.      Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman      or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can      spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his      feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any      patronising nonsense about his being a great human teacher.      He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to. ...      Now it seems to me obvious that He was neither a lunatic nor      a fiend: and consequently, however strange or terrifying or      unlikely it may seem, I have to accept the view that He was      and is God.\"    <\/p>\n<p>    Lewis's argument, now known as Lewis's Trilemma, has been criticized    for, among other things, constituting a false trilemma. As philosopher John    Beversluis argues, Lewis \"deprives his readers of numerous    alternate interpretations of Jesus that carry with them no such    odious implications.\"[10]  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Visit link:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Christian_atheism\" title=\"Christian atheism - Wikipedia\">Christian atheism - Wikipedia<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Christian atheism is a system of ethics which draws its beliefs and practices from the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, as recorded in the Gospels of the New Testament and other sources, while rejecting the supernatural claims of Christianity at large. Christian Atheism takes many forms - some Christian Atheists take a theological position, in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. 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