{"id":185321,"date":"2017-03-29T11:26:10","date_gmt":"2017-03-29T15:26:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/dinosaur-phylogeny-gets-a-radical-shakeup-requiring-convergent-evolution-discovery-institute\/"},"modified":"2017-03-29T11:26:10","modified_gmt":"2017-03-29T15:26:10","slug":"dinosaur-phylogeny-gets-a-radical-shakeup-requiring-convergent-evolution-discovery-institute","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/evolution\/dinosaur-phylogeny-gets-a-radical-shakeup-requiring-convergent-evolution-discovery-institute\/","title":{"rendered":"Dinosaur Phylogeny Gets a Radical Shakeup, Requiring Convergent Evolution &#8211; Discovery Institute"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    A paper in Nature, A    new hypothesis of dinosaur relationships and early dinosaur    evolution, presents fresh ideas about dinosaur    relationships that reveal the extent to which dinosaur traits    are not distributed in a treelike pattern. One news article        calls this a radical shakeup of the dinosaur family tree    because it would overturn a century of evolutionary thinking    about dinosaurs:  <\/p>\n<p>      The analysis, which has already sparked controversy in the      academic world, suggests that the two basic groups into which      dinosaurs have been classified for more than a century need a      fundamental rethink. If proved correct, the revised version      of the family tree would overthrow some of the most basic      assumptions about this chapter of evolutionary history,      including what the common ancestor of all dinosaurs looked      like and where it came from.    <\/p>\n<p>    The basic issue is this: For the past hundred years, dinosaurs    were classified into two primary groupings. Dinosaurs within    Ornithischia, which have hips like a bird, and dinosuars within    Saurischia, with hips like a lizard. Before you read any    further, dont presume that these old divisions foreshadow the    now-popular theory that birds evolved from dinosaurs: the    theropod dinosaurs, the group from which birds supposedly    evolved, belong to the lizard-hipped Saurischia and are not    bird-hipped! This obviously bothered some proponents of the    bird-to-dino hypothesis.  <\/p>\n<p>    The new scheme aims to fix this annoying problem. Under the new    classification, theropods are now grouped with dinos that used    to be within the bird-hipped Ornithischia, such as    Stegosaurus and Triceratops. This new    designation, Ornithoscelida, is supposed to create a    fundamental group of dinosaurs that is less hostile to the    dino-to-bird theory.  <\/p>\n<p>    The grouping of course pleases longtime dino-to-bird advocates    like Kevin Padian, president of the National Center for Science    Education. He defends the classification in a     News & Views article in Nature, stating that    their results cannot be dismissed as simply a different    opinion or speculation.  <\/p>\n<p>    Indeed, The Guardian     reports that people are already using this new    classification scheme to imagine feathered dinosaurs where they    dont exist  on totally non-feathered types of dinosaurs like    Stegosaurus and Triceratops! Consider these    comments by the studys lead author, Cambridge University    graduate student Matthew Baron:  <\/p>\n<p>      The findings also support the possibility that dinosaurs such      as Stegosaurus and Triceratops,      traditionally portrayed as tank-like armoured beasts, may      have been feathered.    <\/p>\n<p>      []    <\/p>\n<p>      Maybe we did have fluffy Triceratops and fluffy      Stegosaurus, said Baron. It could be that the      feathers would have been poking out between the scales, it      could have been a beautiful fluffy colourful plumage  or      scales covered in downy feathers. Its possible.    <\/p>\n<p>    Such unwarranted speculation hints at what agendas may truly be    driving this new classification scheme.  <\/p>\n<p>    In any case, the official reason for the new view of dinosaurs    is that it better explains the distribution of traits among    various dinosaur species. For example, the technical paper    explains that the old Ornithischia\/Saurischia division required    convergent evolution to clarify the hand anatomy of early    dinosaurs  a problem the authors claim to solve:  <\/p>\n<p>      Recent studies have led to a general consensus that the      earliest dinosaurs were relatively small and bipedal, and      this idea finds further support within our hypothesis, as      both basal sauropodomorphs and basal ornithoscelidans are      small bipeds. Manus anatomy in many early dinosaurs also      appears to be very similar, with supinated,      non-weight-bearing, grasping hands appearing in basal      saurischians such as Herrerasaurus and basal ornithoscelidans      such as Heterodontosaurus and Eoraptor. As pointed out in      several previous studies, these similarities were often      considered to represent convergences given the supposedly      distant relationship between taxa such as Heterodontosaurus      and Herrerasaurus. Within our new framework, the supinated,      grasping hands seen in some early taxa are interpreted as the      primitive dinosaurian condition.    <\/p>\n<p>    But solving one problem sometimescreates another, and it    does so here. By reorganizing major parts of the dinosaur tree,    evolutionary paleontologists are now confronted with the    prospect of rampant convergent evolution among traits found in    various carnivorous dinosaurs as required by their new    phylogeny. The technical paper in Nature explains these    difficulties:  <\/p>\n<p>      This new tree topology requires redefinition and rediagnosis      of Dinosauria and the subsidiary dinosaurian clades. In      addition, it forces re-evaluations of early dinosaur      cladogenesis and character evolution, suggests that      hypercarnivory was acquired independently in herrerasaurids      and theropods, and offers an explanation for many of the      anatomical features previously regarded as notable      convergences between theropods and early ornithischians.       Herrerasauridae is recovered as the sister clade to      Sauropodomorpha, suggesting that some of the theropod-like      features of their anatomy have evolved independently of those      found in theropods. This is most likely a direct result of      their fully carnivorous feeding strategy; in our hypothesis a      fully carnivorous feeding strategy is not recovered as the      plesiomorphic condition for Dinosauria and we are forced to      interpret some of the anatomical similarities between      herrerasaurids and theropods as convergences. The convergent      evolution of hypercarnivore morphology within Dinosauria      raises interesting questions about the drivers of early      dinosaur evolution. For example, did a dentition composed      exclusively of sharp, recurved and serrated teeth, such as      those that are present in representatives from both of these      clades, evolve independently of each other? The earliest      representatives of each of the major dinosaur clades often      possess at least some recurved, serrated teeth, most commonly      as part of a heterodont dentition. However, no known members      of Sauropodomorpha or Ornithischia exhibit dentitions that      are exclusively composed of recurved, serrated teeth, nor      does the early theropod Eoraptor. Hence, it seems      probable, within our new framework, that at least some of the      recurved, serrated teeth that make up the dentition of      derived theropods and herrerasaurids have convergently      adopted this morphology. Furthermore, the rostral extension      of the dentary tooth row appears also to be convergent      between theropods and herrerasaurids; in members of both      clades, the dentary tooth row extends to the rostral tip of      the dentary.    <\/p>\n<p>    And then of course there is the fact that lizard-hipped    dinosaurs are now separated into two different groups.    Presumably that also would require convergent evolution.  <\/p>\n<p>    Convergent evolution is a problem for Darwinian evolution    because it means that biological similarity does not    necessarily result from inheritance from a common ancestor.    This undermines the basic logic used to construct phylogenetic    trees, and casts into doubt the entire project of    tree-construction.  <\/p>\n<p>    The reality is that no matter what classification scheme you    use, a dinosaur tree is going to require convergent evolution.    This is because key dinosaur traits are not distributed in a    tree-like manner.  <\/p>\n<p>    Because of the convergent evolution it requires, the new    hypothesis has already proven controversial. As Nature    Newsreports:  <\/p>\n<p>      Hans-Dieter Sues, a vertebrate palaeontologist at the      Smithsonian Institutions National Museum of Natural History      in Washington DC, says the study should stoke discussion.      But I caution against totally reorganizing the dinosaur      family tree just yet, he says. For one thing,      palaeontologists analyses of relations among species are      keenly sensitive to which species are considered, as well as      which and how many anatomical features are included, he says.    <\/p>\n<p>      The discovery of new dinosaur species or more complete      specimens of those already known might also drive future      analyses back toward more currently accepted arrangements of      dinosaur lineages, Sues says.    <\/p>\n<p>    Whats fascinating is that this whole kerfuffle was started by    the discovery of a new species of dinosaur named Saltopus    elginensis. But when you consider the poor quality of this    fossil, it casts more doubt on the proposal, as The    Guardian, again,     explains:  <\/p>\n<p>      Langer argues that, while Saltopus might be statistically a      good candidate for a common ancestor, given the patchy nature      of the fossil it is a poor choice. Rather than attempting to      identify the true ancestor of all dinosaurs  which can never      be known  scientists aim is to find an animal that is a      decent approximation of the general form and traits displayed      by that ancestor we know must have existed.    <\/p>\n<p>      The fossil, found in a Lossiemouth quarry, comprises a pair      of legs, some hip bones, and vertebrae, all of which have      been badly squashed.    <\/p>\n<p>      It looks like a chicken carcass after a Sunday roast, Baron      acknowledges.    <\/p>\n<p>    The Guardian     finds scientists who are skeptical of the new proposal:  <\/p>\n<p>      As anticipated, the conclusions have been met with robust      criticism from some rival scientists, including Max Langer, a      respected palaeontologist at the University of So Paulo in      Brazil.    <\/p>\n<p>      Theres nothing special about this guy, he said. Saltopus      is the right place in terms of evolution but you have much      better fossils that would be better candidates for such a      dinosaur precursor.    <\/p>\n<p>      []    <\/p>\n<p>      Vinther, whose background is in mollusc research, said that      unlike most dinosaur scientists he was not invested in any      particular result, but added: Ive heard a bit of murmuring      already from people who are not too thrilled about this      hypothesis.    <\/p>\n<p>    Given the controversy thats already brewing, it seems likely    that over time critics will adduce further reasons to doubt    this new dinosaur classification scheme.  <\/p>\n<p>    Photo: Triceratops,Houston Museum of Natural Science,    by Agsftw (Own work) [CC BY-SA    3.0],     via Wikimedia Commons.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Continue reading here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.evolutionnews.org\/2017\/03\/radical-shakeup-of-dinosaur-phylogeny-requires-convergent-evolution\/\" title=\"Dinosaur Phylogeny Gets a Radical Shakeup, Requiring Convergent Evolution - Discovery Institute\">Dinosaur Phylogeny Gets a Radical Shakeup, Requiring Convergent Evolution - Discovery Institute<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> A paper in Nature, A new hypothesis of dinosaur relationships and early dinosaur evolution, presents fresh ideas about dinosaur relationships that reveal the extent to which dinosaur traits are not distributed in a treelike pattern. 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