{"id":184203,"date":"2017-03-21T11:31:19","date_gmt":"2017-03-21T15:31:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/on-wednesday-the-supreme-court-will-hear-a-case-with-major-implications-for-the-second-and-fourth-amendments-washington-post\/"},"modified":"2017-03-21T11:31:19","modified_gmt":"2017-03-21T15:31:19","slug":"on-wednesday-the-supreme-court-will-hear-a-case-with-major-implications-for-the-second-and-fourth-amendments-washington-post","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/fourth-amendment\/on-wednesday-the-supreme-court-will-hear-a-case-with-major-implications-for-the-second-and-fourth-amendments-washington-post\/","title":{"rendered":"On Wednesday, the Supreme Court will hear a case with major implications for the Second and Fourth amendments &#8211; Washington Post"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    In Mondays     morning links, I noted the story of Andrew Scott, a Florida    man who was shot and killed by a police officer who came to his    home, pounded on his door and never identified himself as law    enforcement. Scott wasnt suspected of any crime and did    nothing illegalduring the altercation. What he    did do is grab his own gun, which he held pointed at    the floor after he was understandably startled by the banging    on the door to his apartment. Scott opened the door, saw a    figure with a gun and then attempted to closethe door.    The officer fired six shots, three of which struck Scott,    killing him. Last week, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th    Circuit     threw out the lawsuit filed by Scotts family, finding that    the officer who killed Scott is protected by     qualified immunity, the     court-invented doctrine that makes it nearly impossible to    sue police officers, even for egregiously over-the-top use of    force that ends in death.  <\/p>\n<p>        As Slates Mark Joseph Stern points out, this is something    that should worry not just Fourth Amendment advocates, but also    those who care about the Second Amendment. Citing the dissent    written by 4th Circuit appeals court Judge Beverly Martin,    Stern writes:  <\/p>\n<p>      The most fascinating part of Martins analysis centered      around Sylvesters insistence that the shooting was justified      because Scott opened the door while holding a firearm. This      conclusion that deadly force was reasonable here, Martin      noted, plainly infringes on the Second Amendment right to      keep and bear arms.  Citing the Supreme Courts decision      in D.C. v. Heller, which affirmed an      individual right to handgun ownership under the Second      Amendment, Martin wrote, If Mr. Scott was subject to being      shot and killed, simply because (as the District Court put      it) he made the fateful decision to answer a late-night      disturbance at the door to his house, and did so while      holding his firearm pointed safely at the ground, then the      Second Amendment (and Heller) had little effect.    <\/p>\n<p>      That seems exactly right to meand it raises an important      point: The 11thCircuit has now effectively      found an individuals FourthAmendment rights are      diminished whenever he chooses to exercise his      Second Amendment right to possess a firearm.      Unfortunately, the 4th Circuit reached the same      conclusion in a dreadful ruling handed down in January.      The Supreme Court should step in soon to remedy the      contradiction by clarifying that the exercise of one      constitutional right cannot diminish the protection of      another. This is an area where       liberals and conservatives should be in agreement.    <\/p>\n<p>    One would think. Over at National Review, David French     made a similar point.  <\/p>\n<p>    On Wednesday, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in        L.A. County v. Mendez, a case that could give them just    such anopportunity to address the issue. The case stems    from a 2010 confrontation between Angel and Jennifer Mendez and    L.A. County deputies Christopher Conley and Jennifer    Pedersonin the couples home.  <\/p>\n<p>    In October 2010, thetwo deputies were looking for a rogue    parolee. According to the deputies, a confidential    informanttold them that a man who fit the description of    the parolee had beenspotted riding a bicycle in front of    a house owned by a woman named Paula Hughes. Acting only on    that tip (note, the man wasnt spotted on a parked bike at the    house; he was seen ridingbyit), the    deputies searched the house  without a warrant. Before the    search, the deputies had also been told that Hugheshad    let a down-on-his-luck high school friend named Angel Mendez    and his pregnant wifebuild a little shack and live in her    back yard. After not finding their fugitive parolee in the    house, DeputyPedersonannounced that she was going    to clear the back yard. Conley joined her. They still hadnt    bothered trying to obtain a warrant.  <\/p>\n<p>    Knowing that the shack in the yard was a residence, the two    entered it without knocking or announcing themselves, as    theyre required to do by law. Angel Mendez kept a BB    gunnear his bed to shoot away pests. When the police    entered his home without knocking or announcing, he was    startled and reached for the gun. Deputies Conley and Pederson    then opened fire, sending 15 bullets toward Angel Mendez and    his wife. Jennifer Mendez was struck in the back. Angel Mendez    was hit in the back, right arm, right hip, right shin and left    foot. His right leg had to be amputated below the knee.  <\/p>\n<p>    The case turns on a long-standing problem created by the    consistently deferential way the courts treat police officers.    Absent clear evidence to the contrary, cops who violate laws or    constitutional rights are assumed to have done so    inadvertently. But what happens when those violations of law or    constitutional rights cause a suspect to take (also justified)    actions that then cause police officers to reasonably fear for    their lives  and to then use lethal force? In this case, the    deputies clearly violated the Fourth Amendment, several times    over. But after they did so, Mendez reached for what    probablylooked like a real gun. Under the law, once he    did, the deputies were justified in using lethal force. But    Mendez was also justified in his own actions, given that the    deputies had violated his own Fourth Amendment rights, and he    quite reasonably feared for his safety.  <\/p>\n<p>    The cops cant be criminally charged for the shooting. In    theory they could be sued, but inevery circuit in the    country but the 9th, federal appeals courts have ruled in favor    of the police in such instances. But the 9th Circuit has    adopted a doctrine of provocation. That doctrine says that if    unconstitutional police actionscreate a chain of events    resulting in theuse of force,the initial violations    make the police civilly liable for harm caused by that force,    even if other circumstances transpired to make the use of force    itself reasonable. So far, because of the provocation doctrine,    both the district court and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the    9th Circuit have ruled in favor of the Mendezes. Los Angeles    County appealed to the Supreme Court late last year, and the    court granted cert.  <\/p>\n<p>    Conceivably, theSupreme Court could go a number of    different ways. It could adopt the provocation doctrine for the    entire country, strike it down completely or find some way to    resolve the case without doing either. Defense attorney and    legal blogger Scott Greenfield     isnt optimistic:  <\/p>\n<p>      The grant of cert  directly calls into question whether the      provocation doctrine should be upheld or overruled. This      isnt to say which way the Supremes will go, or whether they      will ultimately rule on it at all, but it bodes poorly for      the rule given that the Ninth Circuit hasnt fared      particularly well in the Supreme Court, and that the doctrine      hasnt been adopted by other circuits.    <\/p>\n<p>      Noting that this doesnt affect the propriety of the conduct,      the shooting, which was held reasonable and is not up for      review, but rather whether the deputies will enjoy qualified      immunity for their constitutional violations, a win for the      Mendezs at the Supreme Court would be enormously      significant, bringing a huge dose of reason to the latitude      given police officers to create, then exploit,      unconstitutional conduct. Perhaps the Court will make      this the law of the land, but then, smart money is on the      death of the provocation doctrine. It just makes too much      sense.    <\/p>\n<p>    If the court ends up striking down the provocation    doctrine,gun owners in particular ought to be    concerned.Because police departments arent required to    keep such data, its difficult to say just how often they raid    the wrong house  or the right house based on information    that turns out to have been wrong. Police advocates will say    such mistakes comprise only a tiny percentage of overall raids,    but given that criminologist Peter Kraska has estimated that    there are somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 door-breaching    raids per year in the United States, and if even 1 percent of    those are on the wrong residence, that would result in 500 to    1,000 such mistakes per year.In    the documentary Do Not Resist, a Richland County, S.C.,    SWAT commander said that drug raids are about 50-50, meaning    that about half the time they find drugs, and about half the    time they dont. Again, due to lack of data, its impossible to    say how representative this is. And certainly in some of those    cases where the police dont find drugs, its not because they    got the wrong house, but because the dealers moved their    supply.  <\/p>\n<p>    Yet given that about     36 percent of U.S. households own a gun, even if we assume    that just 1 in 100 police raids target the wrong house or are    based on bad information, that works out to180 to 360 gun    owners  and possibly their families  who are wrongly raided    by police each year. This is admittedly a crude estimate     again, its due to the fact that police departments arent    required to keep track of their mistakes. But the general point    here is that given the frequency of these raids and the    frequency of gun ownership, there will inevitably be some    overlap. Such incidents likely happen on a fairly regular    basis. And given that these raids are designed to    disorient and confuse everyone in the targeted residence,    thats a lot of incidents in which things could go horribly    wrong.  <\/p>\n<p>    Those are just the cases in which police raid someone who    actually possesses a gun.There have been plenty of other    cases in which courts have found that police acted reasonably    whenshooting someone during one of these raidsafter    mistaking something harmless for a gun, be it ablue cup,    a T-shirt or the glint off a wristwatch (all are real    incidents). Courts tend to be pretty forgiving of cops in such    circumstances, owing to the danger and volatility of these    raids. (Never mind that the police are the party that    created the danger and volatility  and that courts    tend to be less forgiving of suspects who make similar    mistakes.)In these cases too, absent a provocation    doctrine, the shooting would likely be deemed justified even if    the initial entry into the house were ruled unconstitutional.  <\/p>\n<p>    In theory, though the people who get shot in such cases cant    sue for the shooting itself, they could sue (or in the cases of    those who dont survive, their families could sue) if there was    aninitial Fourth Amendment violation. But any damages    would be limited to only the harm caused bythe initial    entry. Its a safe bet that such cases would see very little    payout at all  not enough to serve as a deterrent, and    probably not even enough to persuade most civil rights    attorneys to take the case in the first place.  <\/p>\n<p>    One other thing: There are only a few tools availableto    enforce the Fourth Amendment. One is the exclusionary rule (the    rule that evidence seized due to an illegal search is    inadmissible at trial). Another is civil liability for police    officers. The only real remaining deterrent is professional    discipline. InHudson v. Michigan, the Supreme    Court refused to apply the exclusionary rule when police fail    to properly knock and announce themselves before breaking down    a door. If the Supreme Court dispenses with the provocation    doctrine too, the only possible remaining deterrent to enforce    the knock-and-announce requirement  the rule that says the    police have to knock, announce themselves and give you time to    peacefully answer the door before subjecting you to the    violence of a forced entry  will be professional discipline.    In other words,our sole protection from cops barging into    our homes unannounced will be the hope thatother cops    will discipline their colleagues for failing to knock and    announce  and discipline them severely enough that it serves    as an effective deterrent. If you read this blog with any    regularity, youll know why that isnt exactly encouraging.  <\/p>\n<p>    Okay, onemorething: Even if    theSupreme Courtends the provocation doctrine in    the 9th Circuit, it doesntneed to be the death    of the doctrine. As is often the case, the court would only be    settingthe upper limits ofstate conduct. If they    wanted to, Congress or any state legislature could still pass a    law to codify the provocation doctrine. That, of course, would    take some political will. But its important to remember that    when it comes to the powers we grant to police, the Supreme    Court neednt always be the last word.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/the-watch\/wp\/2017\/03\/21\/on-wednesday-the-supreme-court-will-hear-a-case-with-major-implications-for-the-second-and-fourth-amendments\/\" title=\"On Wednesday, the Supreme Court will hear a case with major implications for the Second and Fourth amendments - Washington Post\">On Wednesday, the Supreme Court will hear a case with major implications for the Second and Fourth amendments - Washington Post<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> In Mondays morning links, I noted the story of Andrew Scott, a Florida man who was shot and killed by a police officer who came to his home, pounded on his door and never identified himself as law enforcement. 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