{"id":183905,"date":"2017-03-19T16:20:36","date_gmt":"2017-03-19T20:20:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/an-automated-world-is-coming-and-managing-the-unemployment-fallout-wont-be-easy-the-guardian\/"},"modified":"2017-03-19T16:20:36","modified_gmt":"2017-03-19T20:20:36","slug":"an-automated-world-is-coming-and-managing-the-unemployment-fallout-wont-be-easy-the-guardian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/automation\/an-automated-world-is-coming-and-managing-the-unemployment-fallout-wont-be-easy-the-guardian\/","title":{"rendered":"An automated world is coming and managing the unemployment fallout won&#8217;t be easy &#8211; The Guardian"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>  The path of automation is not sci-fi, but with us right now, so  the debate about how we will manage it is crucial. Photograph:  Athit Perawongmetha\/Reuters<\/p>\n<p>    One of the more striking things about economic debate in this    country is that there is a broad call for more reform and yet    an equally narrow view of what such reform should constitute.  <\/p>\n<p>    Economic reform is often synonymous with reducing labour costs    and increasing after-tax profit, because much of the debate is    generated by those whose view of the world and position in life    is benefitted by such outcomes. But many of these styles of    reform are most suited to an economy that might be passing us    by  one where output is greatly disconnected from employment.  <\/p>\n<p>    While watching the latest X-Men movie, Logan, one scene that    particularly stood out for me was when the characters drove    along a highway featuring driverless trucksThe trucks have no    cabins and are essentially just containers on wheels. It was a    particularly soulless vision of the future, in which there was    not only automation but where the suggestion that humans had    any control of say steering wheels or windscreen wipers, was    absent too.  <\/p>\n<p>    The path of automation is of course not sci-fi, but with us    right now. And while there is the hope that, as with the    industrial revolution, new technology will create many new    jobs, the current path appears to be to making jobs redundant    and creating new work that is also able to be automated.  <\/p>\n<p>    This new economy should be a more productive one  after all,    there is no need to automate if humans are able to produce the    same level of output in the same time for the same cost. But as    manufacturing workers around the world have discovered, greater    productivity does not mean greater hours of work.  <\/p>\n<p>    So automation might be a future with more output but fewer    jobs.  <\/p>\n<p>    So what to do? And what good is cutting penalty rates to lower    costs for people working in takeaway shops when a robot is able    to cook and wrap a burger (along with any other job that was    once considered safe from automation because it was seen as a    service)?  <\/p>\n<p>    One response put forward by the Greens leader Richard di Natale    this week was to reduce the amount of work that people did and    shift to a four-day work    week.  <\/p>\n<p>    Sometimes an idea is worth considering because the initial    reaction is to shake your head and assume that couldnt work.    So it is with the four-day week.  <\/p>\n<p>    Di Natales proposal (and even he admits it is more about    starting a discussion than anything concrete) would see people    either go from an eight-hour day, five days a week to a 10-hour    a day, four day a week job, or to reduce hours across the five    days.  <\/p>\n<p>    The shift to a 10-four working week is not actually all that    radical. It was pursued in Utah    for state employees from 2008 to 2011. Generally satisfaction    among workers was high and, while offices were closed on    Fridays, they were open longer on other days.  <\/p>\n<p>    The results were    mixed  not much difference in productivity, some were    marginally better, some the same, some services saw improved    wait times, but it was less successful for those agencies that    had to deal with federal authorities who expected them to be    open on Fridays.  <\/p>\n<p>    That such a change in hours however did not result in massive    disruption and enabled government services to continue to    operate successfully says a bit about how such ideas might seem    on first blush to be impossible, but actually are quite doable.  <\/p>\n<p>    But the more radical switch is to actually reduce the hours in    the working week  either a five days week with six hours or a    four days week of eight hours.  <\/p>\n<p>    While there is evidence of individual    firms going down that route and being successful, its a    great deal different to shift to it being standard for all    workers.  <\/p>\n<p>    But then the 40-hour week is not some pre-ordained amount of    time that we must work.  <\/p>\n<p>    The idea is that if we work fewer hours then there is greater    opportunity for more people to work. But you can see the    difficulties  people might wish their unemployed neighbour to    have a job, but how many would give up hours to ensure they    can?  <\/p>\n<p>    John Maynard Keynes was suggesting working fewer hours in 1930     because of increases in technology his grandchildren would only    need to work 15 hours a week.  <\/p>\n<p>    He argued that the course of affairs will simply be that there    will be ever larger and larger classes and groups of people    from whom problems of economic necessity have been practically    removed.  <\/p>\n<p>    We dont of course work 15 hours a week, even though many of us    could and enjoy a standard of living as good as the average    person in 1930.  <\/p>\n<p>    When given the option of working fewer hours with more leisure    time and keeping the same standard of living, or working the    same hours and improving our standard of living, we have mostly    chosen the later.  <\/p>\n<p>    And that in itself is not bad, but it works only if there is    the option of working those hours.  <\/p>\n<p>    But what if automation reduces national employment by 20%? What    happens to those people who are left out? On the current    welfare system we would see massive gaps in inequality and a    pretty horrific change in the look of our society.  <\/p>\n<p>    Economist Mike    Konczal argues if we all worked 20% fewer hours (that is a    four-day week), combined with a universal basic income, the    massive cut in employment need not occur, and neither would the    huge increase in inequality.  <\/p>\n<p>    That sure is radical, and of course comes with the question of    cost. But I always get a bit bemused when I hear talk of the    productivity wonders of automation combined with talk that we    need to reduce the taxation of the profits derived from that    process.  <\/p>\n<p>    We know an automated world is coming. The problem with much of    the economic debate in this country is that it is conducted by    those who are currently free of pressures of that process.  <\/p>\n<p>    No one is really arguing the shift to a four-day week needs to    happen right now. But as we have seen with energy policy and    with climate change, there is not much good knowing things are    coming and not only doing nothing, but not even considering    doing anything.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Continued here: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/commentisfree\/2017\/mar\/19\/an-automated-world-is-coming-and-managing-the-unemployment-fallout-wont-be-easy\" title=\"An automated world is coming and managing the unemployment fallout won't be easy - The Guardian\">An automated world is coming and managing the unemployment fallout won't be easy - The Guardian<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The path of automation is not sci-fi, but with us right now, so the debate about how we will manage it is crucial.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/automation\/an-automated-world-is-coming-and-managing-the-unemployment-fallout-wont-be-easy-the-guardian\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187732],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-183905","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-automation"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/183905"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=183905"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/183905\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=183905"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=183905"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=183905"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}