{"id":183366,"date":"2017-03-17T06:57:01","date_gmt":"2017-03-17T10:57:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/snowden-at-sxsw-dont-believe-their-word-games-the-nsa-collects-data-on-us-all-reason-blog\/"},"modified":"2017-03-17T06:57:01","modified_gmt":"2017-03-17T10:57:01","slug":"snowden-at-sxsw-dont-believe-their-word-games-the-nsa-collects-data-on-us-all-reason-blog","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/nsa-2\/snowden-at-sxsw-dont-believe-their-word-games-the-nsa-collects-data-on-us-all-reason-blog\/","title":{"rendered":"Snowden at SXSW: Don&#8217;t Believe Their Word Games; The NSA Collects Data on Us All &#8211; Reason (blog)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Stephanie Slade\"When people in    government assert that the NSA would never collect    communications on an Americanany Americanthey are lying,\"    Edward Snowden said during a taping of the Intercepted    podcast with Jeremy Scahill at South by Southwest (SXSW)    this morning.  <\/p>\n<p>    The statement came in response to a question from Scahill about    whether the intelligence community \"would in fact collect data    or communications on lawmakers or even the president.\" The    exiled National Security Agency (NSA) whistleblower proceeded    to criticize the powers that be for playing \"word games\" to get    out of admitting it's already snooping on all of us, including    elected office holders.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"In the plain use of language, what collect means to    you and mewhen something travels across the phone line, when    something travels across the internet line, they pick it up,    they save it, and they drop it in their databasethat happens    to everyone right now,\" he said. \"Does not matter whether    you're the president. Doesn't matter whether you're a    congressman. Doesn't matter whether you're a lawyer, an    accountant. Doesn't matter if it's you sitting in the room    right now. These things happen by default. That's how, of    course, the system of surveillance that we have works.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Officials deny as much, according to Snowden, by quietly    redefining a critical word. \"What's happening is these    intelligence agencies, these lawyers up at [the Department of    Justice] and up with the president, are saying that, to them,    collect doesn't mean that we copied your    communications, that we put it in the bucket, and that we saved    it in case we want to look at it,\" he explained. \"To them,    collect means that they take it out of the bucket and    actually look at it and read it.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Snowden added that officials also engage in an illegal practice    called reverse targeting while pretending otherwise.    \"If you are an American citizen and they say, 'I want to look    at your communications' and 'I want to listen to    this person's phone calls and everyone they    contacted,' this in theory is supposed to require a warrant,\"    he said. But they get around that, because \"if you're in that    bucket and you don't have a U.S. passport, you're not a U.S.    citizen, no social security card, you don't have a green card    so you're not legally privileged as a U.S. person,\" you're not    protected.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"So if they look at the other side of [the American's]    communication, the communication that went overseas or involved    a non-U.S. person in any way\"even if it was just the target of    an attempted foreign cyberattack, he said\"that's entirely    legal so long as I'm not targeting him officially. I'm    interested in this 'known system that's affiliated with Chinese    espionage' or whatever. It just happens to be Obama's    Blackberry.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    \"That happens all day long,\" Snowden continued. \"People at NSA    are doing that right now. It's legally prohibited, but when you    hit certain stop points in your investigation, you're actually    coached to do this kind of thing.\"  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/reason.com\/blog\/2017\/03\/14\/snowden-at-sxsw-dont-believe-their-word\" title=\"Snowden at SXSW: Don't Believe Their Word Games; The NSA Collects Data on Us All - Reason (blog)\">Snowden at SXSW: Don't Believe Their Word Games; The NSA Collects Data on Us All - Reason (blog)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Stephanie Slade\"When people in government assert that the NSA would never collect communications on an Americanany Americanthey are lying,\" Edward Snowden said during a taping of the Intercepted podcast with Jeremy Scahill at South by Southwest (SXSW) this morning. The statement came in response to a question from Scahill about whether the intelligence community \"would in fact collect data or communications on lawmakers or even the president.\" The exiled National Security Agency (NSA) whistleblower proceeded to criticize the powers that be for playing \"word games\" to get out of admitting it's already snooping on all of us, including elected office holders. \"In the plain use of language, what collect means to you and mewhen something travels across the phone line, when something travels across the internet line, they pick it up, they save it, and they drop it in their databasethat happens to everyone right now,\" he said.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/nsa-2\/snowden-at-sxsw-dont-believe-their-word-games-the-nsa-collects-data-on-us-all-reason-blog\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[94881],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-183366","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-nsa-2"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/183366"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=183366"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/183366\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=183366"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=183366"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=183366"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}