{"id":182155,"date":"2017-03-07T22:50:57","date_gmt":"2017-03-08T03:50:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/debate-forum-37-dayton-city-paper\/"},"modified":"2017-03-07T22:50:57","modified_gmt":"2017-03-08T03:50:57","slug":"debate-forum-37-dayton-city-paper","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/victimless-crimes\/debate-forum-37-dayton-city-paper\/","title":{"rendered":"Debate Forum: 3\/7 &#8211; Dayton City Paper"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>In defense of brunch        Should Ohio revisit its Sunday alcohol policy?    <\/p>\n<p>    By Sarah Sidlow  <\/p>\n<p>    Photo:Illustration by Dayton artist Jed    Helmers. Reach him at <a href=\"mailto:JedHelmers@DaytonCityPaper.com\">JedHelmers@DaytonCityPaper.com<\/a>. See more    at JedHelmers.com.  <\/p>\n<p>    Thing to know: blue lawas in, a law that prohibits certain    types of activities on Sundays. Because, why would you want to    buy a car (or a bottle of liquor) when youre supposed to be    worshipping? These laws have existed throughout American    history, but are most commonly associated with the late 1800s    and the early 1900s.  <\/p>\n<p>    In Minnesota, the law banning Sunday liquor stores has been on    the books for nearly 160 years. But last week, the Minnesota    state Senate voted to repeal the law, finally allowing liquor    stores to be open on Sundays. Even though there are a few more    political hurdles to jump before supporters can raise their    Sunday glasses, its looking more and more like Sunday liquor    store hours are imminent, and may be a reality by July.  <\/p>\n<p>    Minnesota was one of just 12 states that still prevented liquor    stores from operating on consumers seven-day-a-week    lifestyles. By now, you may be wondering how the Buckeye State    stacks up. Lets break it down.  <\/p>\n<p>    According to Ohio Code 4301, liquor may only be sold on Sunday    under authority of a permit that authorizes Sunday sale.  <\/p>\n<p>    What are the benefits of getting rid of the ban? Supporters of    the repeal are happy to say, out with the oldand hope the    change will better reflect consumer tastes and expectations. In    Minnesota, public opinion polls showed big majorities of the    public wanted the change. Craft brewers and distillers, as well    as major retail chains, also chimed in with support. (Like, a    lot of support. Big-box store Total Wine & More alone spent    $170,000 lobbying the legislature in 2014 and 2015.)  <\/p>\n<p>    But the Sunday liquor sale ban has supporters, as well. And    they long to return to the days of small business and    small-town life. They fear raising restrictions will force    mom-and-pop shops to compete in the world of big-box business.    And that seems kind of hopeless. They argue that the historic    blue laws are some of the last remaining remnants of days gone    by, which we all sometimes wish we could get back. Whats the    harm in keeping some of the charm?  <\/p>\n<p>    Others view the ban as a way to reduce crime and encourage    other activities. Research published by the U.S. National    Library of Medicine found that after Virginia relaxed their    Sunday sale policies, minor crime increased by 5 percent and    alcohol-involved serious crime rose by 10 percent. (Fun fact:    the study also found that the cost of the additional crime was    comparable to Virginias revenue from increased liquor    salesbut thats not really the point, is it?)  <\/p>\n<p>    Both sides argue that there are likely far more important    issues toward which those governing the state should direct    time and resources. This reasoning leads ban supporters to say,    just leave it alone and repeal supporters to say, just do    it, already!  <\/p>\n<p>      By Don Hurst    <\/p>\n<p>    The state should repeal the prohibition of selling liquor on    Sundays. The ban is the last remaining survivor of the states    blue laws, laws expressly implemented to curb sinful behavior    and encourage citizens to participate in religious activities.    Legislators believed if you had nothing better to do on Sunday    you would go to church.  <\/p>\n<p>    In 1809, Ohio lawmakers prohibited such unholy activities as    gambling, hunting, shooting, dancing, drinking, sporting    events, and common labor. If the state wants to outlaw my    mowing the lawn on Sundays, then I would reconsider my stance    on liquor.  <\/p>\n<p>    At the time, these laws represented the will of the people, but    our society has evolved to include more religious diversity.    Some people hold Saturday as the most holy day of the week,    while others dont believe any day deserves more veneration. To    elevate one day above the others with legislation is a    violation of equal treatment of religions.  <\/p>\n<p>    Not all Protestant morality is bad. All enduring religions and    humanist philosophies share some common beliefs. You shouldnt    steal a Subaru (or anything else). Throwing a brick through    your neighbors window is bad. Murder is also frowned upon.  <\/p>\n<p>    Acts that harm others are definitely part of the governments    sphere of influence, but imposing subjective morality on us is    not the governments job. Im a big boy, and I wear big boy    pants. I can handle buying alcohol.  <\/p>\n<p>    Theres a hypocrisy to these laws that leaves a bad taste in my    mouth. (Gee, a shot of bourbon would wash that taste out.) Ohio    says selling liquor on a Sunday is bad, unless you pay extra    money for a special permit. Then its OK. You paid your way    into morality. That doesnt make any sense.  <\/p>\n<p>    Lets follow the logic of blue laws. Supporters dont want    people to sin on the Lords Day. We have to be nicer and more    righteous on this arbitrary day of the week. If selling liquor    is sinful, then what other activities should we outlaw? There    is a lot of sin in the Bible.  <\/p>\n<p>    For example, gluttony is a sin. On Sundays, it shall be    unlawful for people eat unhealthfully. Instead of 24 hours,    seven days a week, Bills Donuts will have to change the signs    to 24 hours, six days a week. The Sunday tradition of standing    in line in your pajamas for butter twists would be unlawful. No    sugary goodness when you should be praying.  <\/p>\n<p>    Cutting liquor and sweets on Sundays doesnt go far enough.    Often, when people drink, they dance. When you hold your    partner too close, the devil is your chaperone. Stomping your    feet to the Charleston and the Jitterbug, you might as well be    boarding the Soul Train to Hell. No dancing on Sundays.  <\/p>\n<p>    Liquor and dancing leads to even more sinful behavior, like    sex. CVS and Wal-Mart cant sell condoms on the Sabbath. We    dont need any sin babies. Its a scientific fact that children    conceived on Sundays grow up to be telemarketers. Keep your    hands off each other by keeping your hands clasped in prayer.  <\/p>\n<p>    No access to adult websites either. Ye Holy Web Blocker shall    deny access to IP addresses of purveyors of carnal sin. Ladies,    dont sidestep these laws by watching copies of Magic Mike or    Fifty Shades of Grey. Just to be safe, lets shut down the    Victorias Secret website on Sundays, as well.  <\/p>\n<p>    There are too many sinful options for entertainment. Cable TV    is a tool of the devil. Dont believe me? Call customer    support. Shut all that down on Sundays. Netflix can only    show that fireplace simulator thats popular during Christmas.    Nope. Never mind. Fire is too much like hell.  <\/p>\n<p>    Instead all channels will air nothing but reruns of The Andy    Griffith Show. Well, not all the reruns; some of those    episodes are just too darn titillating. That time Andy held    hands with Miss Helen during their picnic at Lake Myers is so    hot that it scorches the virtue of nuns.  <\/p>\n<p>    Some cling to these laws because they yearn for a simpler time    when people were just better. Thats an illusion. The good old    days werent any better than today. Peel back the years enough    and it gets ugly. No liquor on Sundays, but deny black people    service at a restaurant. No Sunday bourbon, but women cant    vote.  <\/p>\n<p>    Blue laws place the government in a position where it dictates    morality and infringes on personal liberty. Prohibiting the    sale of liquor on a Sunday is not so egregious as to spark a    revolution, but it is an example of the dangerous tendency to    legislatively impose religion. We face a lot of challenges as a    society. Thought rooted in 1809 norms will not help us.  <\/p>\n<p>      Don Hurst is a combat vet and a former police officer. He      now lives in Dayton where he writes novels and plays. Reach      DCP freelance writer Don Hurst at      <a href=\"mailto:DonHurst@DaytonCityPaper.com\">DonHurst@DaytonCityPaper.com<\/a>.    <\/p>\n<p>      By Victor DeLaine    <\/p>\n<p>      To paraphrase Nietzsche, Sunday is dead. We killed it. You      dont need to be religious to regret its death. Religion may      seem silly to us urban sophisticates, but one sane thing that      religion gave us was Sunday. We are the worse, the less      civilized, for its loss. And with what did we replace it?      With a second Saturday, another day of driving, spending,      consuming.    <\/p>\n<p>      Sunday has not been dead long. Many reading these words will      recalland, Ill wager, recall fondlywhen all commercial      activity, not just selling booze, was off-limits on Sunday.      That meant no groceries, no gas stations, no soccer, no      restaurants. You just stayed home and hung out with your      family.    <\/p>\n<p>      Ours wasnt the only country that observed Sunday. Youd be      surprised how many countries still do. On Sundays in Germany,      most stores must remain closed, and trucks are banished from      the roads. In Norway, all but gas stations and the smallest      shops must take Sunday off. In Switzerland, only a few shops      in tourist areas may open on Sunday. In some Australian      states, whole categories of retail commerce are restricted on      Sunday.    <\/p>\n<p>      These places are not fundamentalist backwaters. They are      advanced, secular, liberal democracies. In some of them,      Christianity is practically extinct. To these societies, blue      laws are a means not of enforcing religious discipline, but      of mitigating the unrelenting rigors of capitalism, of giving      the body politic a break from the manic imperative of nonstop      consumption. It is for that reasonnot to legislate      religionthat such societies set one day in seven aside when      King Commerce cannot hawk his wares, cannot separate us from      our money, and cannot yoke hirelings to machines.    <\/p>\n<p>      Bringing Sunday back to this country is not out of the      question. We see something like the nostalgia for Sunday in      the push to restore Thanksgiving as a day off, even for the      hapless employees of Wal-Mart.    <\/p>\n<p>      But if we cant bring back Sunday, we can at least leave room      for its one surviving remnant, Sunday restrictions on liquor      sales. What little is left of those restrictions is barely      noticeable. We have so curtailed those restrictions already      that, if you sleep late on Sunday, you wouldnt even notice      them. Of all the ills facing this benighted republic, the      scourge of liquor restrictions on Sunday would seem pretty      low on the list.    <\/p>\n<p>      Weigh the pros and cons. What are the awful horrors with      which restrictions on Sunday liquor sales afflict us? The      only argument against blue laws is the one you always hear      from nerdy libertarians who think every law puts us onto a      slippery slope to Stalinism. Its less an argument than a      sequence of push-button slogans about victimless crimes,      separating church and state, and Big Brother, with lots of      yammering about rights. When pressed to go beyond such      abstractions, they just mumble. The most awful scenario that      critics of blue laws can cite is the plight of beer drinkers      who must stock their fridges on Saturday with enough beer to      last until noon Sunday, when Kroger can sell it again.    <\/p>\n<p>      If you lift Sunday liquor restrictions, by contrast, the bad      results would be far less abstract. For one thing, more      liquor sales would meanduh!more liquor consumption.      You could then expect more of all the social ills that      correlate with drinking, such as drunk driving, wife-beating,      and crime. The Dayton City Paper tells us that the      repeal of blue laws in Virginia prompted increases in crime      that leave little doubt as to cause and effect.    <\/p>\n<p>      But a graver downside of repeal concerns liquors role in      distracting citizens from the real ills that afflict them.      With all due respect to Marx, liquor, not religion, is the      opiate of the masses. It is like the drug soma in Huxleys      Brave New World, dulling your critical intelligence just      enough to make dystopia endurable. Booze makes sensible men      want to kiss ugly women. It also makes sensible men accept a      status quo that sentences them to underpaid drudgery on a      corporate treadmill. The laws that took Sunday away were      enacted, not because mobs of peasants with pitchforks      demanded that their day of rest be taken away, but because      Mammon wanted to do the same thing to you on Sunday that he      does to you the other six days. And Mammon would like nothing      more than to finish the job by plying you with liquor on      Sunday, to keep you from getting any sober ideas.    <\/p>\n<p>      But no matter how you feel about capitalism, abstract rights,      and drunk driving, the best reason to tolerate blue laws is,      simply, that they are tolerable. Tolerate them the way you      tolerate the Amish, the Oregon District, or Wrigley Field, as      a quaint vestige of a better way of life.    <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>        Reach DCP freelance writer Victor DeLaine at        <a href=\"mailto:VictorDeLaine@DaytonCityPaper.com\">VictorDeLaine@DaytonCityPaper.com<\/a>.      <\/p>\n<p>    Tags: blue law, debate forum, headline, Sunday liquor ban, Sunday liquor laws  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Original post: <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.daytoncitypaper.com\/debate-forum-37\/\" title=\"Debate Forum: 3\/7 - Dayton City Paper\">Debate Forum: 3\/7 - Dayton City Paper<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> In defense of brunch Should Ohio revisit its Sunday alcohol policy?  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/victimless-crimes\/debate-forum-37-dayton-city-paper\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[187829],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-182155","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-victimless-crimes"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/182155"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=182155"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/182155\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=182155"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=182155"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=182155"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}