{"id":181093,"date":"2017-03-04T00:45:56","date_gmt":"2017-03-04T05:45:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/censorship-at-the-arxiv-endorsements-and-even-publication-wont-matter-science-2-0\/"},"modified":"2017-03-04T00:45:56","modified_gmt":"2017-03-04T05:45:56","slug":"censorship-at-the-arxiv-endorsements-and-even-publication-wont-matter-science-2-0","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/censorship\/censorship-at-the-arxiv-endorsements-and-even-publication-wont-matter-science-2-0\/","title":{"rendered":"Censorship at the arXiv: endorsements, and even publication won&#8217;t matter. &#8211; Science 2.0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The arXiv.org (said as archive) is    one of the oldest websites on the internet and serves as a    curated collection of scholarly preprints submitted by    recognized scientist. I even have a paper there on    massive star formation (arXiv:1311.3983). I tried to publish in    another area and they say submit to a journal and get    feedback. Then a favorable review isnt enough, so I need    to get it published. Then in a subsequent email from    them, I must get it published in a mainstream journal with no    guarantee that being published in any journal would do the    trick.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    What is arXiv, why they moderate, and why that can go    wrong.  <\/p>\n<p>        The arXiv has to maintain a certain standard for a    reason. The value of arXiv is that it provides a    copy of papers that cost money either way. That means it    is moderated. This is a reasonable thing to do.    There is also an appeals process which is supposed    to avoid abuses. However, when moderation devolves    into unreasoned censorship and even doing what they tell you to    get a paper up there may not sway them someone has to call it    what it is.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, I get endorsements, twice, that is not so unusual.  <\/p>\n<p>    They ask that I submit to a peer reviewed journal for the    requisite feedback. I get back a review from    Science\/Nature (does not matter which one) a long    detailed review stating that the paper is not bad, and    would be of interest to a small audience. Just not a big    enough audience for Nature\/Science.  <\/p>\n<p>    Then arxiv says they need for it to be published in a    mainstream journal. I ask for    clarification of just what comprises a mainstream journal which    would ensure acceptance on arXiv. Then I get    this.  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>    So even if I did what they asked it would probably not    be enough. Supposed I submitted to another    Nature\/Science journal more focused on a specialty . What    would the result be. I could never pay an open access fee    for such a journal it would be too much. So even if I got    it published in Nature\/Science or a journal in one of    those families that may not be enough.    Hypothetically acceptance in Nature\/Science wouldn't be enough    for them.  <\/p>\n<p>    Whats the big deal?  <\/p>\n<p>    In this day and age most papers, in the fields of Physics, and    Astronomy, are published open access in some form or    fashion.  <\/p>\n<p>    In this climate being published in a paywalled,    traditional, and what I surmise they mean by    mainstream, format is little better than not being published    at all.   <\/p>\n<p>    If one is browsing for papers on their Ipad, or phone or other    device and has to pay they are not going to read it. If    one has to even enter university library credentials that can    be a pain in the rump many will simply avoid.  <\/p>\n<p>    The assumption that serious researchers would be reading on a    computer, on a campus, logged into a university or national lab    IT system, etc is from the early 2000s or really the    1990s.  <\/p>\n<p>    Philosophically, I believe in open access and I believe in    public, post publication, peer review. The peoples taxes    pay my salary, and for my retirement, and whos taxes loaned me    money for school and pay for the facilities I rely on.    They shouldnt have to pay Springer or Elsevier $30 bucks    to read my work. If anything I should pay them to    host it.  <\/p>\n<p>    As for public, peer review, post publication, the attitude of    the arXiv moderators shows why thats needed. It is    possible to be frank, honest, and negative, without being    unreasonable or insulting. Having to be publicly    accountable for ones words ensures fairness in the process.    Individual researchers are then free to use their    own judgement on the pros and cons of a paper and contribute to    the flow of ideas that will lead ultimately to greater    knowledge accepting or rejecting all or part of a paper    individually. The mainstream and traditional    process is based on authority and belongs to a past era of    paper and ink not hard drives and internet.  <\/p>\n<p>    The bottom line  <\/p>\n<p>    Yes, the arXiv does in fact censor ideas that dont fit the    taste of the moderators. Even if those ideas have been    found acceptable enough to publish, or have at a    conference.     . Yet they accepted how many papers about faster than light    neutrino physics based on a clearly obviously flawed set    up? Accepting those and not papers like mine which    have a prayer of being right and propose an experiment to prove    or disprove them is not scientific moderation.    What that is is art criticism based on    ones feelings about an idea without reasons and    logic. That is the essence of censorship, not    moderation.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.science20.com\/hontas_farmer\/censorship_at_the_arxiv_endorsements_and_even_publication_wont_matter-224950\" title=\"Censorship at the arXiv: endorsements, and even publication won't matter. - Science 2.0\">Censorship at the arXiv: endorsements, and even publication won't matter. - Science 2.0<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The arXiv.org (said as archive) is one of the oldest websites on the internet and serves as a curated collection of scholarly preprints submitted by recognized scientist.  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/transhuman-news-blog\/censorship\/censorship-at-the-arxiv-endorsements-and-even-publication-wont-matter-science-2-0\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[19],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-181093","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-censorship"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/181093"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=181093"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/181093\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=181093"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=181093"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.euvolution.com\/prometheism-transhumanism-posthumanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=181093"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}